DMN Blog: Roy Williams on Sirius XM Radio

[adbutcher]

Attack?

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[Maikeru-sama]

Which make some seem so foolish when they post because football is such a nuanced sport. The level of strategies between players, schemes, and coaching is mind boggling.

I agree.

Roy Williams is not hurting the team On and Off the field at the moment.

Also, there is no evidence that Ogletree or Hurd are good enough to warrant a major reduction in Roy Williams' playing time.

After 16 Games, every team that is lucky enough to get into the Playoffs knows what weapons they have and have an established formula for being successful.

You don't tweak with that now unless you have someone that is hurting the team and therefore keeping you from doing your job, which is winning.

However, when the 2010 Off Season arrives, lookout!!

 

[cowboys2233]

This thread serves as evidence that some see things as Black or White, there can be no grey area, a Player either sucks or he doesn't.

Until Roy Williams starts hurting the team, he shouldn't be benched this Season.

He has hurt the team. Crucial drops at crucial times, running the wrong routes that could easily have led to turnovers. We have won in spite of his play.

Roy is right about one thing, both his QB and offensive coordinator have lost confidence in him..and with good reason. Roy has physical gifts that if used properly, could make him a matchup nightmare. But he is not mentally tough and does not play with even the most basic fundamentals.

 

[Hoofbite]

Situation is getting flat out ridiculous when people have to argue about giving or not not giving Roy excess credit for running his route correctly.

 

[yimyammer]

Roy seems like a good dude and that makes me want him to succeed all the more, I sure hope he can find his hands and confidence and make a decent contribution going forward.

I'd love to see him get some David Tyree moments before the season ends.

Good Luck Roy!

 

[baj1dallas]

However, he really needs to stop saying Tony Romo and Jason Garrett have lost confidence in him. To me, statements like this have too much ambiguity and just seems like he is making excuses about the lack of balls thrown his way.

to me, statements like this are 100% true. I don't see how you can have any doubt that they've lost some confidence in Roy.

Anyway, I hope he just keeps plugging. He had a couple of good games this year and I hope he gets a chance to make a big play in the playoffs.

 

[yimyammer]

Either he actually meant what he said or he really wants that $9.5 million dollar roster bonus coming to him in March.

fixed your post

 

[trueblue1687]

Man, I was lookin at some highlights of RW on youtube and it really makes me wonder what in the heck has to happen to have this guy start showing his play. There is no question that the guy has it. He had Kitna throwing to him for heavens sake! I know he is capable of the big play...really sickening that he isn't doing it in Dallas. Not looking to place blame (but ultimately rests with RW since he has dropped so many this year), just an observation.

 

[yimyammer]

It looked like Romo made the wrong read on that one to me. There was no safety on Roy's side so the inside was open. It was not a flag route or a post route any way. It was a stop and go and on the go part Roy fought for the inside position, which was the correct thing to do with no safety over the top. They had a shot of Tony after that play and Tony's facial expression seemed to indicate that Roy got it right and Romo got it wrong.

That's the impression I got

 

[casmith07]

I saw it differently -- I saw a guy that was supposed to fake inside and turn the pattern towards the corner but checked his route off because a) the fake was so bad that the CB did not bite one bit and b) because Roy would prefer to take the path of least resistance which was to the inside because of the aforementioned godawful fake.

Yeah, I saw Romo's expression after the play but I chalk that up to Romo being a team player. He rarely shows open disgust for a teammate on the field, unlike some other quarterbacks and tried to show a level of understanding for Roy's complete ineptitude.

But the team's actions after that play tell you everything you need to know -- the only "shot" Roy got after that play was the camera shot of him standing on the sideline.

I'm not sure how you saw all that. I saw the offensive line get whipped at the line of scrimmage (which didn't happen much that game) and I saw pretty decent coverage by the CB and a throw-away by Romo due to pressure.

 

[cowboys2233]

I'm not sure how you saw all that. I saw the offensive line get whipped at the line of scrimmage (which didn't happen much that game) and I saw pretty decent coverage by the CB and a throw-away by Romo due to pressure.

The most significant reason for the decent coverage is the same as it always is -- it's because Roy SUCKS at route-running. He is incredibly slow out of his breaks and gives away the patterns because of his piss-poor fakes. I can't tell you how many times I've seen the DB make the break before Roy does.

Again, if Roy were a poker player, his opponents would call his bluffs nine out of every ten times. He is that bad.

 

[dhaber]

Look, we already have the guy, gave Detroit whatever we gave them, paid Roy like a king, so we may as well try to get something from our investment. If RW gives us our best chance to win then he should be playing, if not someone else should. I wouldn't just throw him to the curb, he has been a good receiver in the past and unless he has the same disease that Nick Folk had
(the yips) then I would try to get him involved a little. With that being said, if he keeps dropping balls and not being on the same page as Romo on running routes, then we have no choice but to reduce his playing time. As of today he just hasn't lived up to what any of us thought he'd be and it's really a shame because who knows what we could have gotten with those draft choices and paid someone else with his salary and bonus. Who knew?

 

[Doomsday101]

I think as we begin the 2nd season (post season) RW will get some early chances and if he expects to regain the confidence from Romo then he needs to step up and make the plays.

 

[cowboys2233]

As of today he just hasn't lived up to what any of us thought he'd be and it's really a shame because who knows what we could have gotten with those draft choices and paid someone else with his salary and bonus. Who knew?

He's been exactly what I thought he'd be. But again, we are able to win in spite of this mistake because we've made so many other good moves. Think about all of our significant players -- Romo, Newman, Ware, Spencer, Ratliff, Barber, F. Jones, Austin, Crayton, Jenkins, Choice, etc. A large majority of our current team was built through the draft (or picking up undrafted talent) -- we made solid picks and had the patience to wait until they developed into great players. This team has been built the right way and they should be contenders for a long time.

Every team makes mistakes -- hell, the Giants paid Canty a boatload of money and have gotten nothing in return. Our mistake was Roy. But hey, one out of every ten or so isn't too bad.

 

[TheSport78]

I agree on a mistake by the Safety, he bit on someone coming into the middle of the field and left Brown on 2 guys. Yet you just said earlier that Brown was stupid to buy the play fake.

Which is it?

That's my bad. Brown did what he was supposed to but the safety never got over. I bet Brown assumed there was a safety over top because he would've never bit so hard.

 

[TheSport78]

fixed your post

No way he deserves that.

 

[Hostile]

That's my bad. Brown did what he was supposed to but the safety never got over. I bet Brown assumed there was a safety over top because he would've never bit so hard.

Bingo. The fact remains Roy did a good job, Crayton did a good job, Tony Romo got protection, and the play worked. Perfectly.

 

[poke]

so i would love RW ( or any other Cowboys WR) to be lighting it up along with Austin but so far he hasn't.

i have seen him blocking, i have also seen him ( at the stadium last sunday) draw defenders away from where the ball eventually went.

late in the 3rd qtr romo hit witten going across the field for about 25 yards. what you may not have seen on TV was the 2 eagles defenders following RW about 15 yards further upfield with their backs turned to the play.

sure right now the cost seems high for what we have gotten but as long as everybody keeps working at it, sooner or later i feel it will click.

thats my .02 cents

 

[TheSport78]

Bingo. The fact remains Roy did a good job, Crayton did a good job, Tony Romo got protection, and the play worked. Perfectly.

Correct. The play was executed perfectly, but I don't think Roy should get any extra credit; that's all I'm saying. If that's Kevin Ogletree or Sam Hurd running Roy's route, the play still works because the Eagles don't change their defensive coverage. It was the perfect playcall for what the Eagles were in and the huge mistake by Mikell. Big props to Jason Garrett for the playcall, for Tony Romo seeing the safety in the middle, for the OL blocking, and for the WR running the right routes.

 

[skinsscalper]

I have a feeling that Roy is going to make a play or two that gets this team where we all want it to go.

Overlooked, by some, are the nice plays he made against Philly in the first game. He does show flashes. His enemy is inconsistency.

We all want Roy to succeed.

We all want him to contribute and help the Cowboys win games.

We all want the Cowboys offense to keep finding ways to be successful by using the other weapons.

We all think Roy always says the right things and he's far from acting anything like Terrell Owens.

But.

The facts are what they are.

He's being paid more than Austin, Crayton, Hurd and Ogltree combined.

He's been saying all the right things about his performance not being what it should be for a year and half now.

He's been on the wrong page with Romo since day one and nothing has changed.

So while we all want the right things and Roy says all the right things the only way this situation is going to work for everyone where there aren't complaint threads anymore is for the results to finally start appearing.

The Cowboys can't possibly go into the 2010 season with the current parameters in place. Roy can't and won't be the highest paid WR on this team. Miles Austin has doubled his totals. Crayton has just about equaled his totals. And Kevin Ogletree has shown flashes that he's just as capable of doing the same things Roy does when the lights come on.

This whole situation is the most blatant case of 'it is what it is' and something has to give moving forward.

For now whatever. Get thru the playoffs and win the Super Bowl. I could care less if Roy has 0 catches for here on out or if he 35 catches. Now isn't the time to start discussing what to do with him.

Right now it's time to keep the attention on the guys who are producing and getting them the football.

^^^This. Every single word of it.

He has hurt the team. Crucial drops at crucial times, running the wrong routes that could easily have led to turnovers. We have won in spite of his play.

Roy is right about one thing, both his QB and offensive coordinator have lost confidence in him..and with good reason. Roy has physical gifts that if used properly, could make him a matchup nightmare. But he is not mentally tough and does not play with even the most basic fundamentals.

This is the one that bothers me most. Especially the basic fundamentals aspect. This was a criticism of Roy's BEFORE he came to Dallas. Under the microscope of the scrupulous Detroit media (sarcasm) the problems went much unnoticed. Under the fire of the Dallas media (where even when you're good, you suck) he has been broken down by everyone and their grandmother.

People can hate on Irvin, and Aikman, and Deion all they want. The fact of the matter is these guys are Hall of Famers who became masters at breaking down film and applying what they learned on the field. To a man everyone of them said that Roy was sorely lacking in the fundamentals department (specifically route running). Some people refused to hear it. "Roy's a Pro Bowler". "He was THE MAN in Detroit". The Roy supporters and Jerry Jones, to boot, have lost ALL credibility on the subject. If you don't think Jerry would go back and make the trade for Boldin instead, at this point, you're kidding yourself. That's all that needs to be known about the Williams trade. I don't want to hear about his downfield blocking. It's NOT was he was paid to come here and do.

Now, as in the post I quoted by dcfanatic, I WANT Roy to succeed. We're stuck with him. In that case, I'd prefer that he experiences team AND personal success. I don't hate Roy Williams. I hate what we gave up for him. There's a HUGE difference. Anyone who roots for Roy Williams to fail loves the sound of their own voice more than they love the Cowboys. I have no personal use for a person or fan like that (if you can even call that guy a fan). But, to this point, to argue that the trade was anything but a Grade A blunder is a joke. Downfield blocker or decoy be damned.