DMN Blog: Would you rather have Tony Romo or Jay Cutler?

[bbgun]

Don't think that Eli Manning wouldn't get a few votes, either.

 

[theogt]

I think it's a toss-up at this point.

Anyone taking a firm stance on one side or another is just full of it.

At this point in time, it's not a toss-up at all. The only argument for Cutler is that he will some day be better than Romo. That's a tall order.

 

[superpunk]

At this point in time, it's not a toss-up at all. The only argument for Cutler is that he will some day be better than Romo. That's a tall order.

There's so many factors. Both have shown the ability to be magnificent QBs. I don't think you can go wrong either way. The difference is not great enough to be taking adamant stands on.

 

[jterrell]

I have compared the two. Cutler, who has been called upon to carry more weight than Romo, in terms of their comparable weapons, has turned the ball over significantly LESS.

Romo, 13 MORE TURNOVERS IN ONLY 2 MORE GAMES.

13 more turnovers, is almost a season's worth.

Which you arrive at by adding in fumbles that occur when QBs get sacked and Cutler has hardly been touched as Denver built a formidable OL.

You are just making things up... Cutler has to carry that offense... although they have a better OL, had far fewer starter games missed due to injury, and had Mike Shanahan calling plays.

Bottom line is, dude, you do not have a point.

Romo is more effective period by every standard. He wins more games, throws more touchdowns, passes for a higher completion percentage, throws less interceptions, makes more escapes from pressure et al.

Good game though with the fumbles, there was at least stat that made Cutler look a little better. Hang on to that one its all you got.

 

[Coy]

You're right. Cutler has the better running game and offensive line.

Better running game????? you´ve got to be kidding me, just imagine Barber, Choice and Felix in Denver, and you didn´t mention WR and TE.
Dont forget Romo had 4 OL, 1 WR, 1 TE and 1 RB around him in the pro bowl in 2007, now tell me who did Cutler have??? There´s your answer.

 

[wileedog]

Not Fair, they don´t have the same weapons, Cutler could have the same or more amount of TD passes if he were in Dallas.

vs.

/thread

 

[theogt]

There's so many factors. Both have shown the ability to be magnificent QBs. I don't think you can go wrong either way. The difference is not great enough to be taking adamant stands on.

I think the statistical difference is pretty significant. As is the difference in winning %. I dont' think that's a coicidence either, since the statistics in which they are different correlate extremely highly with winning %.

You either have to get highly speculative in saying that Cutler would have performed better on our team, or you have to be highly prophetic to think that Culter will eventually perform better.

But let's not pretend they've even been close over the past 3 years.

 

[rcaldw]

Quote:
Originally Posted by theogt
If all you care about is winning, then you should love Romo, since he's 29-15 as a starter, while Cutler is 17-19.

No, its not about winning for you. It's not about touchdowns. It's not about INTs or even yardage. You just don't like Romo because you bet your reputation on the fact that he wasn't any good and you were wrong. And it still apparently stings.
Ouch.
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This is no ouch to me, I've answered it. Regular season winning is all well and good, but last time I checked everyone is playing to get to the last game of the year. We haven't even gotten past our first playoff game in 3 years.

Theogt is a Romo worshipper, I think that is pretty clear. I'm NOT a Romo hater, but I'm not bowing down to his image either. I'm not sold on him as a championship caliber QB. And for the record, I don't think Favre was all that either. I think he was a stat hound, and a back slapping player who had ENORMOUS ability but put his gun slinging desire above the team in a lot of situations that cost his team big games.

And I'm not alone in any of these views, if you are paying attention at all to what a lot of people around the NFL are saying.

Who says that Romo doesn't need to correct his proneness to turnovers?

Hasn't everyone from Jimmy Johnson to Jerry Jones said so recently?

Who would compare Romo to Aikman right now in a way that would make Romo the better player? Only Wiledog and Theogt.

Have you heard the views of some New York Jets recently? Were they happy with Favre's gunslinging approach?

 

[theogt]

Better running game????? you´ve got to be kidding me, just imagine Barber, Choice and Felix in Denver, and you didn´t mention WR and TE.
Dont forget Romo had 4 OL, 1 WR, 1 TE and 1 RB around him in the pro bowl in 2007, now tell me who did Cutler have??? There´s your answer.

Oh definitely. I follow you. Can you imagine Romo with their offensive line?

 

[Hostile]

Don't think that Eli Manning wouldn't get a few votes, either.

So would Big Ben, Rivers, and my personal pick Matt Ryan.

 

[jterrell]

At this point in time, it's not a toss-up at all. The only argument for Cutler is that he will some day be better than Romo. That's a tall order.

I agree 100%.

Cutler might have the higher upside but production has not been close thus far and those who ignore that are simply going on emotion.

 

[theogt]

Quote:
Originally Posted by theogt
If all you care about is winning, then you should love Romo, since he's 29-15 as a starter, while Cutler is 17-19.

No, its not about winning for you. It's not about touchdowns. It's not about INTs or even yardage. You just don't like Romo because you bet your reputation on the fact that he wasn't any good and you were wrong. And it still apparently stings.
Ouch.
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This is no ouch to me, I've answered it. Regular season winning is all well and good, but last time I checked everyone is playing to get to the last game of the year. We haven't even gotten past our first playoff game in 3 years.

Theogt is a Romo worshipper, I think that is pretty clear. I'm NOT a Romo hater, but I'm not bowing down to his image either. I'm not sold on him as a championship caliber QB. And for the record, I don't think Favre was all that either. I think he was a stat hound, and a back slapping player who had ENORMOUS ability but put his gun slinging desire above the team in a lot of situations that cost his team big games.

And I'm not alone in any of these views, if you are paying attention at all to what a lot of people around the NFL are saying.

Who says that Romo doesn't need to correct his proneness to turnovers?

Hasn't everyone from Jimmy Johnson to Jerry Jones said so recently?

Who would compare Romo to Aikman right now in a way that would make Romo the better player? Only Wiledog and Theogt.

Have you heard the views of some New York Jets recently? Were they happy with Favre's gunslinging approach?

So, how's Culter's postseason winning %?

You have no argument, so you end up comparing Romo to Aikman?

 

[rcaldw]

Which you arrive at by adding in fumbles that occur when QBs get sacked and Cutler has hardly been touched as Denver built a formidable OL.

You are just making things up... Cutler has to carry that offense... although they have a better OL, had far fewer starter games missed due to injury, and had Mike Shanahan calling plays.

Bottom line is, dude, you do not have a point.

Romo is more effective period by every standard. He wins more games, throws more touchdowns, passes for a higher completion percentage, throws less interceptions, makes more escapes from pressure et al.

Good game though with the fumbles, there was at least stat that made Cutler look a little better. Hang on to that one its all you got.

This is why a conversation with you, on a subject like this, is futile.

So, Romo's fumbles are all the fault of the offensive line. He doesn't have a propensity to turn the ball over. No one else in the universe of FOOTBALL KNOWLEDGEABLE PEOPLE has made any reference to it?

You are blind.

 

[Hostile]

This is no ouch to me, I've answered it. Regular season winning is all well and good, but last time I checked everyone is playing to get to the last game of the year. We haven't even gotten past our first playoff game in 3 years.

Theogt is a Romo worshipper, I think that is pretty clear. I'm NOT a Romo hater, but I'm not bowing down to his image either. I'm not sold on him as a championship caliber QB. And for the record, I don't think Favre was all that either. I think he was a stat hound, and a back slapping player who had ENORMOUS ability but put his gun slinging desire above the team in a lot of situations that cost his team big games.

And I'm not alone in any of these views, if you are paying attention at all to what a lot of people around the NFL are saying.

Who says that Romo doesn't need to correct his proneness to turnovers?

Hasn't everyone from Jimmy Johnson to Jerry Jones said so recently?

Who would compare Romo to Aikman right now in a way that would make Romo the better player? Only Wiledog and Theogt.

Have you heard the views of some New York Jets recently? Were they happy with Favre's gunslinging approach?

Cutler made it to the last game of the year? He hasn't even made the playoffs in 3 years.

 

[jterrell]

Not Fair, they don´t have the same weapons, Cutler could have the same or more amount of TD passes if he were in Dallas.

Every GM in the league would take Brandon Marshall over any Wr we have.

Try again.

 

[theogt]

This is why a conversation with you, on a subject like this, is futile.

So, Romo's fumbles are all the fault of the offensive line. He doesn't have a propensity to turn the ball over. No one else in the universe of FOOTBALL KNOWLEDGEABLE PEOPLE has made any reference to it?

You are blind.

So, Romo's fumbles aren't, at least partially, a result of the offensive line?

Does he just let go of the ball intentionally and wait for someone to pick it up?

 

[masomenos]

Cutler made it to the last game of the year? He hasn't even made the playoffs in 3 years.

Ouch.

+1 for Hos.

 

[rcaldw]

So, how's Culter's postseason winning %?

You have no argument, so you end up comparing Romo to Aikman?

Two different comparisons, but I'm sure you aren't tracking that.

Romo to Cutler, I said even at this point, because I'm concerned about Romo's turnovers. (13 more in 2 more games) I think I remembered saying, quote, "its the only thing that even makes it a discussion at this point." Which is to say, take away the turnovers, and I take Romo.

Romo to Aikman, Romo better get this problem fixed if he is to become what we all want him to become, a championship QB. Aikman did a good job of protecting the ball through most of his career.

Now, if you can follow two lines of thought at once, you will understand what I'm saying.

 

[rcaldw]

Cutler made it to the last game of the year? He hasn't even made the playoffs in 3 years.

See my latest post, and I've answered this.

 

[superpunk]

I think the statistical difference is pretty significant. As is the difference in winning %. I dont' think that's a coicidence either, since the statistics in which they are different correlate extremely highly with winning %.

You either have to get highly speculative in saying that Cutler would have performed better on our team, or you have to be highly prophetic to think that Culter will eventually perform better.

But let's not pretend they've even been close over the past 3 years.

I understand.

When you watch the two of them, though, the difference is not that magnificent. It's not like we're comparing Tony Romo to Jason Campbell, here.