DMN - Crayton "Now we're contenders" - 6/04/08

[iceberg]

That's the attitude this team has taken over the years. And it resulted in very little development of leadership.

and the freddie mitchell style of leadership has accomplished what?

there's a lot of reasons why we've not won a playoff game. if you wanna pin your hopes on crayton the leader go ahead.

just stop the act of being so surprised when 99% of the people around you can no longer control their giggling.

 

[ilovejerry]

My take on Patrick Crayton:

He is a possession receiver known for his hands who dropped the biggest pass of his life.

You see guys like Crayton all the time -- they talk a better game than they can physically produce. Bad teams have several Patrick Crayton's on their roster and really good teams have very few if any.

And its too bad were stuck with him for awhile. I'm hopeing someone steps up and really challenges him for the thrid WR spot. And we can get rid of this bum and send him packing to the abyss.................

 

[Stash]

That's the attitude this team has taken over the years. And it resulted in very little development of leadership.

And Crayton ran his mouth last year, how'd that work out?

Again, guys like Deion or Irvin talked a good game, but they could back it up.

Crayton can't.

So he needs to shut up.

 

[iceberg]

And its too bad were stuck with him for awhile. I'm hopeing someone steps up and really challenges him for the thrid WR spot. And we can get rid of this bum and send him packing to the abyss.................

crayton, mouth and all, is a great #3 wr and a not bad #2. don't get so extreme on the other side you overlook that as well.

i'll never understand the "on/off" mentality so many people have in a world of gray.

 

[AbeBeta]

i'll agree it takes all types to make a team. i don't agree all types are leaders in their own right. in this case the only person i see on the team following crayton is crayton.

and how exactly do you know who is following who?

again, it takes all kinds and we haven't had enough of any kind.

you jump on people for blaming Crayton for the playoff loss but then you jump on him for saying something like "we are contenders" - that's some very mild stuff coming out of his mouth to get slammed for dontyathink?

 

[Stash]

dude. i'm nowhere NEAR as annoying as i was 20+ years ago. that may shock some, but the few times i ever see people from those days they don't recognize me looks or the way i act.

i know i'm difficult at times, and that can be annoying. but back then it was just annoying and i've got 2+ brothers who'll vouch for me.

but i don't think that will be needed. : )

Glad I didn't know ya then.

But glad I do now.

 

[AbeBeta]

And Crayton ran his mouth last year, how'd that work out?

Again, guys like Deion or Irvin talked a good game, but they could back it up.

Crayton can't.

So he needs to shut up.

And the Giants ran their mouths all season. How'd that work out for them?

 

[AbeBeta]

and the freddie mitchell style of leadership has accomplished what?

there's a lot of reasons why we've not won a playoff game. if you wanna pin your hopes on crayton the leader go ahead.

just stop the act of being so surprised when 99% of the people around you can no longer control their giggling.

Crayton and Mitchell are miles apart and you know that.

 

[ilovejerry]

And Crayton ran his mouth last year, how'd that work out?

Again, guys like Deion or Irvin talked a good game, but they could back it up.

Crayton can't.

So he needs to shut up.

Irvin and Deion were the upper echelon of athlete's in the NFL this putz is not even a stain he's lucky hes playing and made a team in the NFL

 

[iceberg]

and how exactly do you know who is following who?

again, it takes all kinds and we haven't had enough of any kind.

you jump on people for blaming Crayton for the playoff loss but then you jump on him for saying something like "we are contenders" - that's some very mild stuff coming out of his mouth to get slammed for dontyathink?

same way i know you know people are following him around going "gosh, patrick, you inspire me..." how come you can speculate his leadership but i can't speculate his mouth?

now before we dive off into idiocy, show me where i jump on people for blaming crayton for the playoff loss.

 

[AbeBeta]

i'll never understand the "on/off" mentality so many people have in a world of gray.

says the guy who compares Crayton to Freddie Mitchell.

 

[iceberg]

Crayton and Mitchell are miles apart and you know that.

only physically and because of the interstates between them. i've been making this comparison since the first time he popped off his mouth a-la freddie mitchell.

now, how come you KNOW what i think? didn't you just jump on me for NOT knowing who was and wasn't following crayton?

you sure do take liberties dude.

 

[Chief]

And the Giants ran their mouths all season. How'd that work out for them?

They backed it up.

Patrick didn't.

Thanks for proving the point.

 

[ilovejerry]

crayton, mouth and all, is a great #3 wr and a not bad #2. don't get so extreme on the other side you overlook that as well.

i'll never understand the "on/off" mentality so many people have in a world of gray.

I cant help it I really dont like this guy.............but I hear ya. We will see what he does this year

 

[Stash]

And the Giants ran their mouths all season. How'd that work out for them?

They accomplished what Crayton couldn't, they backed it up!

 

[AbeBeta]

same way i know you know people are following him around going "gosh, patrick, you inspire me..." how come you can speculate his leadership but i can't speculate his mouth?

now before we dive off into idiocy, show me where i jump on people for blaming crayton for the playoff loss.

you've been defending PC for months on the board over his drops -- I totally agree with you on that issue and about him being a decent #2.

 

[ilovejerry]

Crayton and Mitchell are miles apart and you know that.

I don't think so ? miles apart .....ahh look again ones the peoples champion and ones his mommy's champion

 

[iceberg]

says the guy who compares Crayton to Freddie Mitchell.

am i alone? do they not both shoot off their mouth? do they not both function as a #3 WR?

it's not black/white to make a comparsion - it is butt-nugget stupid to say we have no leadership on this team with the exception of crayton.

to date you've yet to say that i've seen how romo, to, witten and barber are as leaders. you just say it takes all kinds and keep blowing smoke up craytons choclate starfish.

 

[AbeBeta]

They backed it up.

Patrick didn't.

Thanks for proving the point.

Crayton talked all year and played well. He did back it up. He had one bad game.

 

[Chief]

He had one bad game.

When it mattered most.