DMN: Jets Courting Miles Austin

[TheBeast]

If you can get a second round pick for a player with three career touchdowns and 17 career receptions you do it.

 

[AbeBeta]

Really? A player that had 13 receptions last season and is always injury-prone? I don't see the value for a 2nd round pick. Jerry's interview certainly did not help. He should've kept his mouth shut about Austin. He should have used the phrase, "younger receivers," and not single out Austin.

If you think an interview with Jerry trumps actual scouting reports then I feel sorry for your niavety

 

[TheSport78]

If you think an interview with Jerry trumps actual scouting reports then I feel sorry for your niavety

Considering the NATIONAL BUZZ Dallas always gets, I seriously do think an interview with Jerry triggered this entire thing. The Cowboys are the Yankees of the NFL, even when nothing is going on, the media still finds something to talk about. Plus it was one of the few interviews Jerry made after T.O. was released, so he knew what he was getting himself into. Jerry loves the spotlight, but it's going to backfire when the Jets offer Austin a 4 or 5 year contract with guaranteed money. Then Jerry is going to be backed into a corner because he had so much faith in him this season.

 

[sonnyboy]

Exactly, all I'm saying is that Jerry's national praise of the guy certainly didn't have the situation. The media scrutinizes everyting Jerry Jones and the Cowboys do, so Jerry has to take blame here.

What Jerry Jones said about Austin Miles had ZERO impact on the Jets or any other team's interest.

If an NFL franchise is operating properly, it not only "knows" it's own players, it "knows" every player in the league.

That's the true secret of success in the NFL. Know as much as possible about all the talent.

In order of your own, college prospects, your 2009 opponents and the rest.

There are enough NFL teams operating properly to keep anyone from flying under the radar.

I can promise you three things.

1) The majority of teams have a book on Miles. Enough preliminary info to know if they should even consider signing him at the cost of their 2nd rd pick.

2) Other teams besides the Jets have researched the possibility further. Perhaps not to the point of contacting his agent, but at least to the point of additional film study and or scout reviews.

3) Jerry Jones comments did not trigger any evaluation and certainly were not included in any evaluation.

 

[TheSport78]

What Jerry Jones said about Austin Miles had ZERO impact on the Jets or any other team's interest.

If an NFL franchise is operating properly, it not only "knows" it's own players, it "knows" every player in the league.

That's the true secret of success in the NFL. Know as much as possible about all the talent.

In order of your own, college prospects, your 2009 opponents and the rest.

There are enough NFL teams operating properly to keep anyone from flying under the radar.

I can promise you three things.

1) The majority of teams have a book on Miles. Enough preliminary info to know if they should even consider signing him at the cost of their 2nd rd pick.

2) Other teams besides the Jets have researched the possibility further. Perhaps not to the point of contacting his agent, but at least to the point of additional film study and or scout reviews.

3) Jerry Jones comments did not trigger any evaluation and certainly were not included in any evaluation.

Then answer this question. Why do you think Austin is worth a 2nd round pick?

Bottom line: you don't give high draft picks away based on POTENTIAL.

 

[juck]

If Miles is lost, I wonder what Jerry's next PR campaign is going to be....

Miles aint all that.A second for a guy with like 22 career receptions and is injury prone is perfect.We can get a very nice speedster with that pick.Wrs are a dime a dozen.Football is all about the lines.

 

[TheCount]

Do any of you REALLY think that teams didn't know about Austin until Jerry started talking him up?

Come on. The second the off-season began you can bet teams were checking film on all the UFA and RFA players -- you make a list of RFAs and Austin would be on every team's top 10 list out of the gate. I sincerely doubt that there are teams that rely on interviews with Jerry for their scouting.

Lance Moore, the undrafted WR for the Saints had 10 TD's and 79 catches last year. The Saints put a 2nd round tender on him.

No one has made him an offer.

Jerry talks about Miles about a week ago, who has 22 catches in 3 years, and the Jets wants to bring him in for two days.

Figure that one out.

Hell, in his 2nd year in the league, lance caught more passes than Miles has his whole career, and he's 6 inches shorter.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

If you think an interview with Jerry trumps actual scouting reports then I feel sorry for your niavety

Didn't you hear, Jerry has a well established track record as a top notch talent evaluator!

 

[khiladi]

Miles aint all that.A second for a guy with like 22 career receptions and is injury prone is perfect.We can get a very nice speedster with that pick.Wrs are a dime a dozen.Football is all about the lines.

WRs are a dime a dozen, but not successful ones. Rookie WRs rarely make an impact in the NFL. Miles has shown potential and an ability to get open, unlike the other WRs on this team. What is all the more impressibe is he was raw. coming into the league.And Miles already has two years in the offense and Romo's trust. There are reports that Romo didn't throw to Roy Williams, because he didn't have the trust yet. Who is going to guarantee the other WR we get earns Romo's trust next year.This team HAS to perform next year on offense, especially after the release of TO.

 

[Mash]

He's the GM, Owner and public face of the franchise... I'm not sure what you expect.

And in this particular instant, he did boast about the player, when he wasn't even under contract.

huh? Expect?

I never blamed Jerry for exposing Austin......So our GM thinks Austin is going to contribute alot this year.....why is that so bad? because Austin didnt sign his tender yet? Really?

Yet now its Jerry fault that the Jets are showing interest.....really? This is professional football......GM's talk....GM's know alot about other teams players...etc...

Blaming Jones for exposing Austin potential to other teams is ridiculous

Maybe all the hype this board has had over Austins potential is the reason the Jets made a offer....

 

[jcutter13]

You pick this guy up as a undrafted free agent and get a second rounder for him great. The cowboys need a shifty fast receiver like Percy Harvin or Quan Cosby. Crayton will be the second receiver anyway. Austin has showed great flashes but he can't seem to stay on the field.

 

[TheSport78]

Lance Moore, the undrafted WR for the Saints had 10 TD's and 79 catches last year. The Saints put a 2nd round tender on him.

No one has made him an offer.

Jerry talks about Miles about a week ago, who has 22 catches in 3 years, and the Jets wants to bring him in for two days.

Figure that one out.

Hell, in his 2nd year in the league, lance caught more passes than Miles has his whole career, and he's 6 inches shorter.

Excellent point. I couldn't have said it any better!

 

[elcocinero]

Did this require a new thread?

 

[Stash]

Miles aint all that.A second for a guy with like 22 career receptions and is injury prone is perfect.We can get a very nice speedster with that pick.Wrs are a dime a dozen.Football is all about the lines.

Yeah, because the Cowboys have had such great success picking wide receivers haven't they?

Dime a dozen? Guess Jerry and the Cowboys are all out of change.

 

[OAM]

and of course austin hasnt produced the big numbers yet, he has not yet had the opportunity. That is what he needs opportunity.

Him never starting doesnt hold any water, him not facing big time corners does but again I think that will be a challenge he meets this year.

Each year he has progressed and last year he looked like he had the makings of being a very good player. IN person when you are at the games you can see him beating his guy and getting open alot, but being the 3rd or 4th option he didnt see the ball that much.

Romo trusts him and will throw him the ball in tight spots and I think that says an awful lot. All young developing players are risky until they are given the opportunity. He may succeed and he may fail. I think, especially this year he deserves that opportunity here. He is big, explosive and can catch the ball. I am not sure what else you are looking for at the position especially when you throw in the fact that he is a veteran and has a great attitude.

It really comes down to do you trust your coaches and the player himself to develop or do you trust your scouts more to take that 52 and go get a player of equal or better talent who can play right now like austin. I really dont think that exists. I personally think MIles Austin is ready to go and There is no doubt in my mind he will be the number 2 wr, although I hate using that numbering system for wr.

Agree on a lot in this post. Basically I'm good if he stays or we get a 2nd for him as long as we can get a viable WR option next to RW. I think Miles has great potential but starting in this league does hold water because that is experience and defenses have to respect that player. It does help to be underestimated at times to as long as that player can capitalize on those opportunities.

Looks like Austin is capable of that from the few opportunities I've seen. We'd know better after 16 starts as I'm sure you'll agree. Basically it can go both ways with Austin and I hope it's for the better of course. However in getting that 2nd, IF we could get it in the first place and do something with it, is also something tangible of Austin being a success to this team.

I don't think we're going to get the 2nd because the Jets will make an offer that is at most 50% more than what the 2nd round tender offers and Jerry would match it anyways.

 

[dcfanatic]

It's not going to be the end of the world if we lose Miles Austin and gain a 2nd round pick.

People have to stop thinking every player in this team is so much better than anything out there.

Because if that was th case we would have won at least one playoff game already.

Calm down.

If we lose Austin then we sign Tory Holt and we also have some serious ability to move up in the draft to get a LT, S or OG. Then we still have picks available to get a WR in the other rounds.

Maybe we even get a WR who can return punts.

I like Miles Austin, but acting like he's the key to the offense this season is just silly.

 

[Stash]

It's not going to be the end of the world if we lose Miles Austin and gain a 2nd round pick.

People have to stop thinking every player in this team is so much better than anything out there.

Because if that was th case we would have won at least one playoff game already.

Calm down.

If we lose Austin then we sign Tory Holt and we also have some serious ability to move up in the draft to get a LT, S or OG. Then we still have picks available to get a WR in the other rounds.

Maybe we even get a WR who can return punts.

I like Miles Austin, but acting like he's the key to the offense this season is just silly.

How is that a given?

You make it sound like the guy is waiting by the phone for Jerry's call.

 

[TheCount]

It's not going to be the end of the world if we lose Miles Austin and gain a 2nd round pick.

People have to stop thinking every player in this team is so much better than anything out there.

Because if that was th case we would have won at least one playoff game already.

Calm down.

If we lose Austin then we sign Tory Holt and we also have some serious ability to move up in the draft to get a LT, S or OG. Then we still have picks available to get a WR in the other rounds.

Maybe we even get a WR who can return punts.

I like Miles Austin, but acting like he's the key to the offense this season is just silly.

I don't think anyone is all that upset at the idea of getting a 2nd rounder for Miles.

 

[Stash]

For this $#!* stirrer it did.

 

[big dog cowboy]

At this point we really don't have any choice but to match the Jets offer. Taking the pick will only force us to draft a WR and we know that history. Releasing TO made this decision an easy one.