DMN: Roger Staubach: Cowboys are 'lucky' to have a 'championship' QB like Tony Romo

[ABQCOWBOY]

I agree speculation however he has never had it so why claim he could not do it? No way to prove it or disprove it. Romo release is quick and he is hitting over 64% on his career and Aikman 61.3 yet Romo is not accurate?

Have I claimed that? If the answer is no, then why are you asking me this question?

 

[Idgit]

you will never find ex-cowboys QB not supporting the current QB. They supported Quincy Carter also. They realize the amount of pressure of the job and will always be fan of and support current player. This will never change. What does it mean? absolutely nothing.

Their quotes of support for both players are in this thread for everybody to see. They make it pretty obvious that your argument here is not a very good one.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Romo beats the blitz on occasion! But he is asked to do it a LOT with that line in front of him! Brady cannot beat the blitz on EVERY play! And not to mention the system that Brady is in is the same one that Cassel excelled in. How's he doing these days? That system and That OL is the reason Brady is as good as he is. I am in NO WAY saying Brady isn't as good, just stating that saying that you could put Brady behind this line and having him be the same championship QB is crap. He would NOT be the same with our OL and our running attack.

Fair enough but Tony doesn't have to do everything. That's the entire point here. Tony played on a team where he was not asked to do everything and it was probably his best year. It was in Parcells Offense. However, if you recall, Tony didn't like to be limited the way he was in that Offense. Tony wanted to open the Offense up more. That's the whole point. Tony could go to an Offensive scheme that allowed for more balance. He could demand it but that, to my knowledge, has never happened. Is it his fault? Some say yes, some say no but here how I see it. As the leader of the team, your goal should be to win and if winning means less burden on the QBs shoulder and more on the running game, then do whatever it takes to accomplish that goal. The reason many other fans don't believe Aikman is in the Montana, Favre, Marino class is because Aikman did do exactly that. He did sacrifice numbers for winning and the result is 4 championships. Marino would not do that and the result for him was no champoinships. That's what I'm talking about here.

The system Cassell played in was a sound one and it's not the one we use. Brady is successful because their offense is better. What does that tell you? It's not rocket science. Our system sucks because we count on Romo throwing the ball 50 times and that doesn't work. At some point, you have to figure out that this is not the way to win. If it were, we would already have accomplished that.

 

[Gameover]

You mean the way he handled the bad snap OVER HIS HEAD in the Rams game and single handedly turned that into a first down?? WOW no composure in high pressure situations? I thought I had heard everything...........

exhibition skirmish....great play, but it was against the 3-13 Rams...low pressure situation

 

[Doomsday101]

Last time you checked, did you also check to see how long ago it's been since we've one a championship?

What exactly is it that you disagree with? Do you disagree that he is not a championship QB? Do you disagree that he is also responsible for why Dallas does not have a decent running game or OL? What is it that you disagree with?

No one on this team is a championship anything, Ware is not a Champion or Witten but they are very good players capable of making it.

I do disagree he is responsible for all that happens on offense and that is the same way with Brady, they do not call the plays they do not put the game plan in. Do they have some say yes but they do not have the final word. Bellicheck is not handing all the responsiblity to Brady. Romo can change a play, 2 plays come into the huddle based on the alighment he can change the play but he is not calling the plays.

This season Callahan is calling plays will he get input from Romo yes but Romo is still not calling the plays. Romo does not draft players he is not in charge of getting an OL in front of him he is not in charge of getting any player on this team that is what scouts do that is what HC and his assistant coaches do that is what the GM does not Romo

Romo again is not the Co HC he is not the Co GM he is a QB that is his job their job is to put parts around him not him going out and getting it.

Lastly my comment was on he could not run the system that Troy did because Troy was accurate as if Romo is not? Give me a break Romo completion rate is very high at 64 percent he is very accurate.

Romo gets in trouble when he tries to do too much but then again if he is doing that this offense fails to move. We don't run because we have trouble running it in large part because we don't get the blocking up front.

For this team to win or any team to win is about getting all the parts working and executing as a team when you don't when you are having constant break downs on offense or defense then winning consistently is very difficult but then that is a team issue.

 

[Doomsday101]

Tony Romo: We need a running game

IRVING, Texas – Tony Romo doesn’t want to throw the ball 50 times per game. He recognizes the value of a good running game.


But it’s tough to be balanced when the running game is wretched. That’s a fair term to use for a Cowboys rushing attack that ranks 28th in the NFL with 69.5 yards per game.

“It’s difficult because we need to get more out of what we’re trying to do,” Romo said. “I’m not sure exactly the statistics but . . . when you run the ball and run successfully, it makes everything a lot easier. Everything. Whether it’s your red zone offense or whether it’s staying on the field or minimizing mistakes or minimizing what the defense can do defensively.

“But if you’re not getting the production out of it, you’re also banging your head against the wall to just keep doing it. Once again, it’s not black and white, it’s something we just have to keep grinding at and figure out a way to get better, whether it’s coming up with stuff, doing things better or figuring out a way. We have to do it.”

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4672531/tony-romo-we-need-a-running-game

 

[Hostile]

This struck me as funny, so when proven wrong you won't switch sides? I thought Dwayne Jarrett would be a great wr for years to come, so I guess I should stick to that now even after being proven wrong.

Yet another pretty wide gap in the commentary. Also known as a strawman. A lot of people are negative about every single dynamic. It drives them. They love it. They feed on it. If one of the dynamics proves to be wrong, such as Dez Bryant for instance. He was a bust who was going to be a one contract player. A 10 cent head with a million dollars of talent. Mark their words.

Marked. Booked.

Where are they now? Oh yeah, "happy to be proven wrong." And sadly, moved on to the newest guaranteed bust. Book it.

That's a lot different than your belief Dwayne Jarrett was going to be good and he turned out to be a bust. That's a not a flip flop on your part. Not by a wild stretch. Do you spend every day lamenting his bust? Did you spend every day placing him on the pedastal? If not for either one then it is not the same.

People here genuinely think Romo is worthless to this football team. I'm sorry, that's stupid. Was Peyton Manning the bust people proclaimed? Was Aaron Rodgers? Is Matt Ryan? Each one of those guys was once where Romo is, and Ryan still is right now. namely, QB of a team that has had post season struggles. Not being able to see their talent is myopia...period.

To pretend Tony Romo is jinxed, unworthy, or whatever else this horse crap is, is a cop out. If he turns it around, and I am fairly sure he will, watch the gears stripping, and the lack of mea culpas.

If he never wins a Super Bowl however, I am not going to change my opinion that he is a very good QB. That is what I meant. I didn't form my opinion on Tony Romo in college. I didn't form my opinion of him in TC. I formed it once he took over for Drew Bledsoe. There is such a thing as a caliber QB. He is one. So is Matt Ryan. So was Archie Manning. So was Dan Marino. So was Dan Fouts. So was Warren Moon.

What did they have in common? Gosh, that's easy. They lacked the team around them to win it all. QBs who have won it all are nowhere as good as those guys. Sad fact of life in the game where the ball is not round, bounces funny, in a game where inches and seconds can matter.

I will never flip flop on Romo. Ever. For as long as I live. That's not the same as you being wrong on a kid who was unproven when you got excited about his potential, and him not meeting it. It isn't even close.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

No one on this team is a championship anything, Ware is not a Champion or Witten but they are very good players capable of making it.

So why then are you arguing the point with me? Is this not what I have already said multiple times?

I do disagree he is responsible for all that happens on offense and that is the same way with Brady, they do not call the plays they do not put the game plan in. Do they have some say yes but they do not have the final word. Bellicheck is not handing all the responsiblity to Brady. Romo can change a play, 2 plays come into the huddle based on the alighment he can change the play but he is not calling the plays.

Nobody ever said he was responsible for everything. That is your statement and I challenge to find any post where I said he was. However, he does share responsibility and he does have significant input into the offense and this has been stated by our own team. Garrett is not Bellicheck but even if he were, Romo could still force change if he wanted to. This is not even debatable. We are tied to Romo and his contract. He can force change. He has already done so by virtue of his contract. That's just a simple fact. As for calling plays, yes he can change any play at any time. Yes, we do call multiple plays in the huddle and he can check to one or the other but he can also audible into any other play at any time. He can call the play at the line but more importantly, he is in the room when putting together the game plan. He does share responsibility.

This season Callahan is calling plays will he get input from Romo yes but Romo is still not calling the plays. Romo does not draft players he is not in charge of getting an OL in front of him he is not in charge of getting any player on this team that is what scouts do that is what HC and his assistant coaches do that is what the GM does not Romo

But he has input in all of the above and so, he has a certain amount of responsibility as well. A person can say he doesn't all you want but he does. He can effect change. Now if you want to get into the coaching and the GM, that's fine. We can do that because there is certainly levels of responsibility there as well but that doesn't change the fact that Romo also shared in that responsibility.

Romo again is not the Co HC he is not the Co GM he is a QB that is his job their job is to put parts around him not him going out and getting it.

Romo's salary prevents a great deal of that. We are greatly limited in how we can do this so again, the responsibility is still there.

Lastly my comment was on he could not run the system that Troy did because Troy was accurate as if Romo is not? Give me a break Romo completion rate is very high at 64 percent he is very accurate.

Different offense. Romo could not throw the ball in a timing offense like Troy could. If you tried to force Romo into that offense, the results would be disastrous so my original statement is accurate. Romo could not run that offense and he would not be nearly as accurate. Throwing for 64% in the offense we currently run is different then doing it in the Offense Troy ran. Why are you trying to contend with this? You know it's true. Romo does not have the arm and in that offense, everything was based on Troy putting the ball in exactly the location it needed to be placed before the DBs could react. Michael's job was making sure that he was at the right place and on time. That's not Romo.

Romo gets in trouble when he tries to do too much but then again if he is doing that this offense fails to move. We don't run because we have trouble running it in large part because we don't get the blocking up front.

I'm tired of this excuse being drug out. Maybe you could have said this the first season or two but not anymore. The reason we can't run is because we don't place enough value on running the ball. If we did value it, then we would have already signed guys who could run block. The NFL is filled with guys who are decent run blockers. What they are not filled with are guys who are decent pass blockers so there is really no excuse, IMO, for not having OLs who can run block. That's a priority thing.

For this team to win or any team to win is about getting all the parts working and executing as a team when you don't when you are having constant break downs on offense or defense then winning consistently is very difficult but then that is a team issue.

For this team to win or any team to win, it starts with being honest about who and what you are. To many people are not interested in this.

 

[Sportsbabe]

Personally, I think the jury is still very much out on Romo. He has the talent to be a championship QB but he has not show, to this point, that he has mastered the game well enough to be considered as such. He still makes impulsive plays at times..

This is the part I don't understand about your critique. He hasn't shown that he has mastered the game because he makes mistakes and hasn't "pitched the perfect game" or is it because he hasn't won a SB? Do you know how many QBs fall in this category?

"Making impulsive plays at times": well, well, well. Wouldn't we all want to see those down to a minimum. We'd also like to see the defense stop somebody when he drives the team down the field for the go ahead score. So you see ... as Big Bill would say ... there's two sides to that pancake.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Tony Romo: We need a running game

IRVING, Texas – Tony Romo doesn’t want to throw the ball 50 times per game. He recognizes the value of a good running game.


But it’s tough to be balanced when the running game is wretched. That’s a fair term to use for a Cowboys rushing attack that ranks 28th in the NFL with 69.5 yards per game.

“It’s difficult because we need to get more out of what we’re trying to do,” Romo said. “I’m not sure exactly the statistics but . . . when you run the ball and run successfully, it makes everything a lot easier. Everything. Whether it’s your red zone offense or whether it’s staying on the field or minimizing mistakes or minimizing what the defense can do defensively.

“But if you’re not getting the production out of it, you’re also banging your head against the wall to just keep doing it. Once again, it’s not black and white, it’s something we just have to keep grinding at and figure out a way to get better, whether it’s coming up with stuff, doing things better or figuring out a way. We have to do it.”

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4672531/tony-romo-we-need-a-running-game

All very interesting but these quotes and this article are from 2010. If you know this is the problem and your being honest in your comments, then three season past is plenty of time to at least address and fix the issues. Yet, these comments could have been said last season. You don't see how that screams out at you?

 

[Bizwah]

exhibition skirmish....great play, but it was against the 3-13 Rams...low pressure situation

Regular season

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

exhibition skirmish....great play, but it was against the 3-13 Rams...low pressure situation

He does look like an elite QB against bad teams.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

This is the part I don't understand about your critique. He hasn't shown that he has mastered the game because he makes mistakes and hasn't "pitched the perfect game" or is it because he hasn't won a SB? Do you know how many QBs fall in this category?

"Making impulsive plays at times": well, well, well. Wouldn't we all want to see those down to a minimum. We'd also like to see the defense stop somebody when he drives the team down the field for the go ahead score. So you see ... as Big Bill would say ... there's two sides to that pancake.

Absolutely I do but now that you've said all this, tell me which ones get 100+ million dollar contracts and which ones are not held to shoulder responsibility for the lack of success?

That is the part that fails the eye test.

You make comments about the defense and other areas on the team as if my opinions on those areas are not consistent with my opinions on Tony. That's just not the case. I'm not in favor of awarding Spencer with his contract either. I'm not in favor of any of that but I'll tell you what, since you are a Big Bill fan. Parcells would never sign a QB to the deal we just signed Romo to and he's on record on that. The more important question, where that's concerned, is why?

 

[CowboyGil]

:shoot6: :horse: :war:

 

[birdwells1]

Yet another pretty wide gap in the commentary. Also known as a strawman. A lot of people are negative about every single dynamic. It drives them. They love it. They feed on it. If one of the dynamics proves to be wrong, such as Dez Bryant for instance. He was a bust who was going to be a one contract player. A 10 cent head with a million dollars of talent. Mark their words.

Marked. Booked.

Where are they now? Oh yeah, "happy to be proven wrong." And sadly, moved on to the newest guaranteed bust. Book it.

That's a lot different than your belief Dwayne Jarrett was going to be good and he turned out to be a bust. That's a not a flip flop on your part. Not by a wild stretch. Do you spend every day lamenting his bust? Did you spend every day placing him on the pedastal? If not for either one then it is not the same.

People here genuinely think Romo is worthless to this football team. I'm sorry, that's stupid. Was Peyton Manning the bust people proclaimed? Was Aaron Rodgers? Is Matt Ryan? Each one of those guys was once where Romo is, and Ryan still is right now. namely, QB of a team that has had post season struggles. Not being able to see their talent is myopia...period.

To pretend Tony Romo is jinxed, unworthy, or whatever else this horse crap is, is a cop out. If he turns it around, and I am fairly sure he will, watch the gears stripping, and the lack of mea culpas.

If he never wins a Super Bowl however, I am not going to change my opinion that he is a very good QB. That is what I meant. I didn't form my opinion on Tony Romo in college. I didn't form my opinion of him in TC. I formed it once he took over for Drew Bledsoe. There is such a thing as a caliber QB. He is one. So is Matt Ryan. So was Archie Manning. So was Dan Marino. So was Dan Fouts. So was Warren Moon.

What did they have in common? Gosh, that's easy. They lacked the team around them to win it all. QBs who have won it all are nowhere as good as those guys. Sad fact of life in the game where the ball is not round, bounces funny, in a game where inches and seconds can matter.

I will never flip flop on Romo. Ever. For as long as I live. That's not the same as you being wrong on a kid who was unproven when you got excited about his potential, and him not meeting it. It isn't even close.

You are responding to something I never said, I bolded this quote from you "He thinks calling me consistent is an insult. Where I come from inconsistency (the opposite of consistency) is actually the insult. It means flip flopping, not having your opinions grounded in fact and switching sides when proven wrong, in other words, instability".

You basically said that even if proven wrong you wont switch sides, which I find quite interesting.

As for Romo, he's a top 10 QB and I'm glad we have him, with the right pieces around him we can win the SB. That's as far as I willing to go.

 

[burmafrd]

Since being a member here I have noticed and participated in the Romo debates. One thing I have noticed is there are some die hards on both sides of the aisles. I do however see the ones who praise him eventually switch over to the other side once they see his faults and have had enough of them. They don't bash him usually, just start admitting that he certainly plays a part in our teams issues. I rarely ever see a Romo "hater" switch over to praising him. Although, I did see it once with TWODEEP3. I dunno if his account got hacked or what but I have seen him flip flop back and fourth. Currently he is in Romo hater mode.

So you still claim to know more about this then two HOF NFL QBs?

 

[burmafrd]

Regular season

don't confuse the guy with facts....

 

[DejectedFan1996]

And if Romo was playing for the Pat's over the last decade, they would not have any SB rings so lighten up Francis.
This statement is why no one takes the Romo "fans" seriously.

Correction: That statement is why no one takes COWBOY FANS seriously.

 

[Hostile]

You are responding to something I never said, I bolded this quote from you "He thinks calling me consistent is an insult. Where I come from inconsistency (the opposite of consistency) is actually the insult. It means flip flopping, not having your opinions grounded in fact and switching sides when proven wrong, in other words, instability".

You basically said that even if proven wrong you wont switch sides, which I find quite interesting.

As for Romo, he's a top 10 QB and I'm glad we have him, with the right pieces around him we can win the SB. That's as far as I willing to go.

I clarified exactly what I meant. You can see that or not. Up to you.

 

[Doomsday101]

All very interesting but these quotes and this article are from 2010. If you know this is the problem and your being honest in your comments, then three season past is plenty of time to at least address and fix the issues. Yet, these comments could have been said last season. You don't see how that screams out at you?

And I think they are trying to address it, I don't think Garrett could address everything at one time and I think there are other areas of importance as well we have been addressing. In the past 3 years we have used a 1st rd pick to help strengthen the OL we have used top picks on RB but we have also had issues at safety we have had issues at CB we have had issues at LB and those have been addressed

To me this is not about Romo or protecting him from the so called haters, to me it is about putting a winning football team in place. Be it Staubach, Aikman or Romo there are things they need, to have success and without those things success if hard to come by.

In my view he has the talent to help this team get to the top what he can't do is rely on improvising and trying to take busted plays and turn them into winning plays. How can that be done? Simple you pass protect better than we have, you run block and run the ball better than we have.

You put a defense out there that can get turnover and close the door on the opponent instead of giving up a score right after we score.

and lastly overall team discipline, it is hard enough to win in this league without giving the opponent extra chances. Dallas can't continue to do those things that hurt themselves like being on the 1 then jumping off sides, having an opponent in 3rd down and getting called on some stupid penalty to hand the other team an automatic 1st down when by all rights they should have been punting.

There are a lot of things this team must do to win including Romo but there is not a question in my mind that he is more than capable