DMN: Sporting News writer: Greg Hardy has rendered himself 'almost untouchable'

[the_h0wey]

Cowboys owner Jerry Jones says the door is not closed on a return to the team by controversial free-agent defensive end Greg Hardy.
And ESPN NFL analyst John Clayton lists Hardy as his top remaining free agent.

However, Sporting News writer Vinnie Iyer is of the opinion that the door should be closed and Hardy isn't worth the risk for any NFL team.

Iyer writes: "Hardy mostly was a non-impact player in Dallas. And a headache. He reportedly wasn't well conditioned or a good teammate, and that combination wore on the coaching staff.

"Hardy had the best situation to resurrect his career and deliver again on an elite level. He instead dragged a struggling team marred by offensive injuries further down on defense.

"An offseason removed from his troubles, Hardy has rendered himself almost untouchable. Hardy has bigger baggage now, and a signing would require a team to come up with another creative contract and be willing to taking a huge risk with both player chemistry and community standing. Hardy was a distraction in Dallas and won't shake that label as long he's an active football player looking for work.

"The Cowboys made a desperate move last year with Hardy. It's tough to see another team repeating that mistake."

Read the entire story on sportingnews.com.

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Guys a ticking time bomb. He'll have another run in with the law or drug suspension no doubt. When he did actually show up for meetings he reeked of pot. Guy is a loser

 

[Aven8]

I'm truly amazed that some fans actually want us to resign him.
Call the article BS...maybe some of it is. I don't know.

What I do know is before his lackluster season last year, we were the only team really looking to sign him.
Now there are stories about his lack of professionalism and a season that was underwhelming, and in a league where a guy who's never had more than 7 sacks in his career gets the biggest contract ever for a DE, once again not a single team, super bowl contender or not, has even tried to sign him.

It blows me away that anyone who knows the Cowboys would think we are the only team able to correctly evaluate this guy, so we should sign him now because we need him.

Amazing!

What's funny is you here all this stuff, being late, parties, etc., yet Marinelli would gush about him every chance he got, and Jerry said he was a leader. Which one is it? Who's not happy with him, JG? Bisachia? Who?

 

[LittleD]

an ugly duckling would be signed though if a team thought it would bring 15 sacks

I think not if Garrett has any say.

 

[iceberg]

Oooooo a bad hardy article. Been a few days.

 

[LittleD]

Conspiracies also sell good but the fact is Hardy got another chance and blew it. He may very well get even another at some point. But Hardy did this to himself, the nfl didn't do it to him. As for that RB, if he was still a good player he would have gotten another shot too. Talented players are going to get more chances and those who don't have talent are'nt
If Hardy had did his part to show he was serious about football he would be rolling in the cash right now. I don't know all that happened but teams around the league make it their business to know
When a very talented player is passed over its usually because of what he has done, not what the nfl has done

The NFL Head Office has a very good and thorough investigative branch and they do provide teams with information and background
on players. You are right though in that whatever has befallen Hardy, he did it to himself.

 

[DandyDon1722]

I would want to know a whole lot more about went on behind the scenes. Being late to meetings is a big deal if it continues to happen since it sends the message they aren't important. I don't know if he was a distraction or how many meetings he was late for.
The simple solution if I'm the GM is talk to your team leaders. If he was an issue they will know. If there was issued in the locker room then I pass
He got a great opportunity and no one can say he took full advantage of it but only those in the locker room know if it was really a distraction and what his behavior really was like
There is no doubt he could help this team and he showed flashes last year of being back, but we don't know what really went on and without knowing it's hard to judge the situation

It was a lot more than being late for meetings. Brian Broaddus has talked extensively about how he repeatedly treated trainers and staff personnel on a daily basis along with the tardiness and conduct in meetings -- the team has simply had enough.

There is perhaps no bigger need on the Cowboys than a pass rush and he's arguably one of the best in the league and is available and we have yet to even make a phone call and this is Jerry we're talking about.

If he couldn't play here with Jerry, Jason, Calvin Hill, the support staff the Cowboys have (see Dez) and team leaders like Romo, Witten and Lee - then he's done.

 

[boyzjunkie]

This thread has been entertaining reading.

To me, Tada, it comes down to whether or not you see it from Jason's perspective or not. From the start he has preached the rkg approach. From his viewpoint I would think there is no way in hell that Greg fits that description now or a year ago when he was signed.
I'm thinking Jerry signed him over Jason's objections last year with the provision that if Greg showed indications of becoming a rkg he would be resigned (offered a contract) or Jason would have his way and our ties to Greg would be cut. It seems that Jason's position is the one that so far is prevailing.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

If I had a guess, I would surmise that the NFL head office put the word out to teams FO that Hardy would not be a good idea to sign. The same
thing appears to have happened to that RB from Baltimore...remember him of the elevator. I'm sure Hardy could find a CFL team to take him on this
year... He..He!

I actually think you're way off base here. Ray Rice hasn't been signed because he's a 29 year old RB who's yard per carry dropped from a 4.4 in 2012 to a 3.1 in 2013. Yes there are other older RBs like Pierre Thomas who get signed mid season, but when you look at the production of guys like that, he just isn't worth the negative attention. If teams thought he could rush for 1500 yards and 15 TDs, he would be signed.

Even with Hardy, it's a combination of the negative attention, pedestrian play and the headache he caused that had nothing to do with the domestic violence charge. Do you believe that if Hardy had 12 sacks in his 12 games, he's still have zero interest?

 

[LittleD]

I actually think you're way off base here. Ray Rice hasn't been signed because he's a 29 year old RB who's yard per carry dropped from a 4.4 in 2012 to a 3.1 in 2013. Yes there are other older RBs like Pierre Thomas who get signed mid season, but when you look at the production of guys like that, he just isn't worth the negative attention. If teams thought he could rush for 1500 yards and 15 TDs, he would be signed.

Even with Hardy, it's a combination of the negative attention, pedestrian play and the headache he caused that had nothing to do with the domestic violence charge. Do you believe that if Hardy had 12 sacks in his 12 games, he's still have zero interest?

Opinions can differ. I think with some of the contracts handed out this year to average DEs. He of the few sacks would still receive interest from a few ne'er do well teams
if the league office were not frowning. I think guys like Hardy & Rice don't deserve jobs in the high visibility NFL. We have enough crooks, bums, and thugs in the NFL
and other professional sports teams so, why not start making examples and clean out the trash. It's a privilege not a right to play football in the NFL.

 

[Kevinicus]

If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, acts like a duck...it's probably a duck...
Certainly not a swan!

Shouldn't you base what it looks, quacks, walks, and acts like on those pesky facts?

 

[KJJ]

How could he blow such a great opportunity here? I don't understand it.

Hardy has issues that require professional help he was given an opportunity to repair his tainted image by going out and being a good teammate and player and all he did was damage it even further. He started trouble before the team ever arrived in training camp with a tasteless Twin Towers joke on Twitter that visibly angered Jerry and Garrett.

It takes a complete numbskull to have a physical altercation with a coach during a game after just returning from a suspension for assaulting someone. All we've been hearing and reading about with Hardy since the season ended is nothing but negatives. All these TV reports and articles can't be all wrong the guy is bad news and teams don't want anything to do with him.

 

[fortdick]

thats total bs

see donte stallworth
see ray lewis(for some reason a god in nfl circles, hypocrits)

sign him jerry.......................this team needs talent, he's got it, he will be a damn sight better this year than last.

he aint the reason we stunk up the joint last year

What makes you believe he would be better this year?

 

[unionjack8]

What makes you believe he would be better this year?

simple, the fact he had a year out of football before he came to us.

 

[CyberB0b]

Guys a ticking time bomb. He'll have another run in with the law or drug suspension no doubt. When he did actually show up for meetings he reeked of pot. Guy is a loser

He's never been involved with drugs.

 

[Kaiser]

He's never been involved with drugs.

But he did kill OJ's Wife and Ron Goldman. I read it here somewhere.

 

[Kaiser]

The NFL Head Office has a very good and thorough investigative branch and they do provide teams with information and background on players.

The "investigation branch" of the NFL is a lapdog and a joke. You can read the transcript of Hardy's NFL hearing in this thread thanks to Bknight13 -

http://cowboyszone.com/threads/transcripts-from-the-nfl-hearing-released-bombshells.336234/

The NFL swept Ray Rice coldcocking his wife under a rug until a video of it was released publicly. Then they body slammed the next guy (Hardy) who had the misfortune of being next in line with a DV charge.

Read the transcript at that link. The "investigation" with the most facts was the NC Attorney General who dropped all charges because Hardy's accuser completely contradicted herself and had physically attacked Hardy in public several days prior. What the NFL did was pick four allegations out of the original report and give Hardy four times the suspension NFL rules called for.

The NFL "investigation" didn't uncover anything that wasn't already known. It was a CYA fig leaf to justify the PR strategy the NFL wanted of looking tough on DV after they had intentionally looked the other way on Ray Rice.

 

[Q_the_man]

If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, acts like a duck...it's probably a duck...
Certainly not a swan!

Donald or Daffy?

 

[J_Allen]

Hardy has issues that require professional help he was given an opportunity to repair his tainted image by going out and being a good teammate and player and all he did was damage it even further. He started trouble before the team ever arrived in training camp with a tasteless Twin Towers joke on Twitter that visibly angered Jerry and Garrett.

It takes a complete numbskull to have a physical altercation with a coach during a game after just returning from a suspension for assaulting someone. All we've been hearing and reading about with Hardy since the season ended is nothing but negatives. All these TV reports and articles can't be all wrong the guy is bad news and teams don't want anything to do with him.

You're right, he has some serious mental issues to blow his last chance to make millions. What disappoints me the most is that he was given more playing time than anyone else on defense. That is absolutely inexcusable. To be as ineffective as he was and to also be a big distraction, he should have been deactivated.

 

[KJJ]

You're right, he has some serious mental issues to blow his last chance to make millions. What disappoints me the most is that he was given more playing time than anyone else on defense. That is absolutely inexcusable. To be as ineffective as he was and to also be a big distraction, he should have been deactivated.

There was one report by Nick Eatman claiming the Cowboys considered cutting Hardy during the season. They probably didn't cut him because doing so would have made Jerry look like a fool and that his player program isn't working. Jerry always thinks he can save troubled players who he believes can help his team.

 

[CCBoy]

This thread has been entertaining reading.

To me, Tada, it comes down to whether or not you see it from Jason's perspective or not. From the start he has preached the rkg approach. From his viewpoint I would think there is no way in hell that Greg fits that description now or a year ago when he was signed.
I'm thinking Jerry signed him over Jason's objections last year with the provision that if Greg showed indications of becoming a rkg he would be resigned (offered a contract) or Jason would have his way and our ties to Greg would be cut. It seems that Jason's position is the one that so far is prevailing.

I don't think that he passed a comparable test to character and play that was given to former Cowboys, Charles Haley.

Not funny how both today's media and fans have to operate, for all discussion, on the level of insult and scorn.

I couldn't put up with side line insults and aggressive conduct towards a single coach that is just doing his job. Hardy would be given his release and required to land a job with another team. Although a professional capable player, he took away from game day glue and didn't produce in line with the salary that he could have earned.

A Bob Lilly or Charles Haley would have shown up...injury, negative talk, or a coach in their face...or not. If forced to acknowledge, play will stand on it's own legs. When that falls short and poor team interaction interferes, then that player won't stick around.

Remember Duane Thomas?