Do You Think McNabb is a top 5 QB in the League?

[AJM1613]

Culpepper is absolutely the better qb. Ask any non eagle and they will tell you the same. Hassleback still needs another year too be top 5, but his last season was better than any mcnabb has had.

Palmer is a bit of a reach I guess, but vick is better than mcnabb in every aspect of the game.

Ask La Tuna Nostra or BP.

So Vicks 50% completion percentage (or 52.2 career) is better than McNabb's? Not quite buddy. He also has better receivers.

What about his 69.0 QB rating last season?
What about his career 76.3 QB rating?

So Vick's winning percentage is better than McNabb's?

So Vick's playoff winning percentage is better than McNabb's?

With a much better offense Vick's passing numbers are a lot worse than McNabb's. Actually McNabb was on pace to set the single season rushing record for a QB in 2002 before he got hurt, he had more yards than Vick.

 

[blindzebra]

Ask La Tuna Nostra or BP.

So Vicks 50% completion percentage (or 52.2 career) is better than McNabb's? Not quite buddy. He also has better receivers.

What about his 69.0 QB rating last season?
What about his career 76.3 QB rating?

So Vick's winning percentage is better than McNabb's?

So Vick's playoff winning percentage is better than McNabb's?

With a much better offense Vick's passing numbers are a lot worse than McNabb's. Actually McNabb was on pace to set the single season rushing record for a QB in 2002 before he got hurt, he had more yards than Vick.

Philly's offense has been MUCH better than Atlanta's. Their running game two years ago was about 50% Vick and their main receiver was a TE. They added Price last season, but Vick got hurt.

Although he is at this point below McNabb, Vick has more upside. I'd still take Culpepper and Green over McNabb, and Hasselbeck is close.

At best McNabb is 7th. Culpepper, Manning, McNair, Brady, Green, and Favre are better.

 

[AJM1613]

Philly's offense has been MUCH better than Atlanta's. Their running game two years ago was about 50% Vick and their main receiver was a TE. They added Price last season, but Vick got hurt.

Although he is at this point below McNabb, Vick has more upside. I'd still take Culpepper and Green over McNabb, and Hasselbeck is close.

At best McNabb is 7th. Culpepper, Manning, McNair, Brady, Green, and Favre are better.

I'm sorry but Dunn/Duckett are better than Staley.
Crumpler is better than Lewis.
Finneran and who ever else they had are about equal with Pinkston and Thrash.

Last season Vick had a 50% completion percentage with Price/Finneran...

 

[blindzebra]

I'm sorry but Dunn/Duckett are better than Staley.
Crumpler is better than Lewis.
Finneran and who ever else they had are about equal with Pinkston and Thrash.

Last season Vick had a 50% completion percentage with Price/Finneran...

Is their RB by committee better than yours was with Staley? Nope.

Crumpler is better than Lewis, and I said he was their MAIN receiver two years ago.

Vick missed most of the season, so you are basing your argument on what?

Was Atlanta's offense in 2002 better than yours? It's not even close, Vick did it with less in 2002.

p.s. Vick is NOT in my top 8, so what was your point?

 

[AJM1613]

Is their RB by committee better than yours was with Staley? Nope.

Crumpler is better than Lewis, and I said he was their MAIN receiver two years ago.

Vick missed most of the season, so you are basing your argument on what?

Was Atlanta's offense in 2002 better than yours? It's not even close, Vick did it with less in 2002.

p.s. Vick is NOT in my top 8, so what was your point?

Dunn had 230 attempts for 927 yards (4.0 average) and 7 TD.
Duckett had 130 attemtps for 507 yards (3.9 average) and 11 TD.
Staley had 269 attempts for 1029 yards (3.8 average) and 5 TD.

Yes I would say that Atlanta had the better rushing game and better receivers (both TE and WR).

Explain to me how we had the better offense again?

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Dunn had 230 attempts for 927 yards (4.0 average) and 7 TD.
Duckett had 130 attemtps for 507 yards (3.9 average) and 11 TD.
Staley had 269 attempts for 1029 yards (3.8 average) and 5 TD.

Yes I would say that Atlanta had the better rushing game and better receivers (both TE and WR).

Explain to me how we had the better offense again?

Read a little better...he said your RB by COM WITH staley...not staley by himself.

 

[AJM1613]

Read a little better...he said your RB by COM WITH staley...not staley by himself.

I was comparing the offenses in 2002, and they clearly had the better players without their quarterback.

 

[Verdict]

In a nutshell.........NO!

 

[blindzebra]

Dunn had 230 attempts for 927 yards (4.0 average) and 7 TD.
Duckett had 130 attemtps for 507 yards (3.9 average) and 11 TD.
Staley had 269 attempts for 1029 yards (3.8 average) and 5 TD.

Yes I would say that Atlanta had the better rushing game and better receivers (both TE and WR).

Explain to me how we had the better offense again?

You got Ducketts' stats wrong.


Atlanta: 2002


Dunn 230, 927, 4.0, 7 TDs Receiving 50, 377, 2 TDs

Duckett 130, 507, 4 TDs 9, 61, 0


Finneran 56, 838, 6 TDs

Gaylor 36, 455, 3 TDs

Crumpler 36, 455, 5 TDs


Philly: 2002

Staley 269, 1029, 3.8, 5 TDs REC 51, 541, 3 TDs

Levens 75, 411, 5.5, 1 TD 19, 124, 1 TD


Pinkston 60, 798, 7 TDs

Thrash 52, 635, 6 TDs

Lewis 42, 398, 3 TDs


Combined yards at RB:

Atlanta 419, 1872, 4.5, 13 TDs

Philly 414, 2105, 5.08, 10 TDs


Top 2 WRs and TE:

Atlanta 128, 1748, 13.7, 14 TDs

Philly 154, 1831, 11.9, 16 TDs

Want to back off the Atlanta had a better offense now, or is this where you say stats don't matter.


Atlanta: 2003

Top 3 backs 429, 2171, 18 TDs

Top 3 WRs 99, 1327, 5 TDs

Crumpler 44, 552, 3 TDs


Philly: 2003

Backs 422, 2465, 5.84, 27 TDs

WRs 120, 1631, 5 TDs

Smith 27, 321, 1 TD

Vick did not have a better offense around him.

 

[AJM1613]

Maybe he should become a RB, his INTs are low because of the offensive system. He is also a 57% passer in a WCO which is REALLY low.

McNabb is top 10, but no way he is top 5.

Eat your crow...

 

[Hostile]

Eat your crow...

Judas Priest. The thread was 3 months old. You couldn't find the link and PM him?

 

[ARMAGEDDON EAGLE]

Eat your crow...

Actually I remember when you kept telling everyone about McNabb's abilities -- but of course, most blew it off. So that's why I believe this post is most deserving.

I've got a mint condition of McNabb's rookie card and a hollogram card of McNabb about to throw a touchdown pass!

Good post AJM.

 

[KINGBRICE_28]

I've got a mint condition of McNabb's rookie card and a hollogram card of McNabb about to throw a touchdown pass!

Well just because he's gonna throw a pass doesn't make it valuable

I'd have a million in common cards then.......

Back on topic, With a top#1 WR on his team YES, with just a normal #1 like ehh....dare I say Keyshawn or maybe price he would be middle of the pack.....

If I had to pick right now It would be: ( not based on FANTASY STATS, But the ability to make your team win:

Brady
manning
culpepper
favre
pennington

Brees & harrington are coming up......finally.....lol

STATS wise:

Manning
culpepper
favre

then who ever else is doing hot like.....Big ben or even McNabb

 

[ARMAGEDDON EAGLE]

If I had to pick right now It would be: ( not based on FANTASY STATS, But the ability to make your team win:

Brady
manning
culpepper
favre
pennington
then who ever else is doing hot like.....Big ben or even McNabb

Honestly, you've got "bias" written all over your post King "B!" Granted, I agree with your picks, but how can you sit there and type in those outstanding QBs without including McNabb in the mix -- not as in an "then whoever else..." recognition.

I'm not certain if you're trying to be insulting?

 

[Tio]

Don't you just love it when fans say other fans have a bias, but they're too blind to see they have one theirselves?

 

[ARMAGEDDON EAGLE]

Don't you just love it when fans say other fans have a bias, but they're too blind to see they have one theirselves?

Well, you do make an cInteresting point RW!

I still think that other fan should read a copy of ...

 

[TLW47]

Tom Brady is the best QB in the business right now.

 

[blindzebra]

Eat your crow...

You can eat something else, TROLL.

How's Culpepper doing by the way?

 

[ARMAGEDDON EAGLE]

You can eat something else, TROLL. How's Culpepper doing by the way?

Lol! Never heard of someone eating a troll. bahhahahahaha Nice one AJM!

 

[blindzebra]

Lol! Never heard of someone eating a troll. bahhahahahaha Nice one AJM!

Notice the comma, that seperates the eat something else from the TROLL. It figures lack of IQ and Eagles fans have a link.