Do you think we can trade for Crabtree?

jimmy40

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I hope he reenters the draft and the NFL gives the 49'ers an extra pick so they can draft him again.
 

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jimmy40;2984205 said:
I hope he reenters the draft and the NFL gives the 49'ers an extra pick so they can draft him again.

...and offer him less than said picks value and then tell him if he doesn't like it, sit out and re-enter the draft next year!
 

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For those that say he must not care about Football

John Elway was drafted by the Baltimore Colts, he said he would refuse to play for the Colts so they ended up trading him to the Denver Broncos.

We really do not know whats keeping the kid out.
 

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zrinkill;2984215 said:
For those that say he must not care about Football

John Elway was drafted by the Baltimore Colts, he said he would refuse to play for the Colts so they ended up trading him to the Denver Broncos.

We really do not know whats keeping the kid out.

Elway's refusal to play for the Colts had nothing to do with money it had to do with his fathers fight with Ersay. Crabtree's has everything to do with money.
 

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zrinkill;2984215 said:
For those that say he must not care about Football

John Elway was drafted by the Baltimore Colts, he said he would refuse to play for the Colts so they ended up trading him to the Denver Broncos.

We really do not know whats keeping the kid out.


Same thing with Eli. But I think this has more to do circumventing the draft $ slotting system then what team it is. With that in mind I doubt there is a trade as it is in all the team's best intretest's for him to go back into the draft and get less money. If Crabtree ends up getting more $ then his spot, then next year every agent is going to try the same thing, and no owner would be happy with that.
 

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nyc;2984219 said:
Elway's refusal to play for the Colts had nothing to do with money it had to do with his fathers fight with Ersay. Crabtree's has everything to do with money.

And Irsay certainly deserved getting the middle finger from Elway, and anyone else able to deliver it. Elway just did a better job than most....
 

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If you can get Crabtree for less than a 1st, why isn't that a good idea? I think he's worth a shot....for the right price.
 

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I think some people are going a little bit overboard with the criticism here. Crabtree is not the first football player to sit out and try to get more money, and he won't be the last. Emmitt Smith missed two games in 1993 because he wanted more money and was willing to miss even more if necessary. Does that mean he had no heart and didn't care about winning?

Personally, I think his strategy is a poor one and he is going to lose money in the long run. But I also think that once he finally does sign somewhere, wherever it may be, he will be a solid contributor at his position.
 

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I don't know what to truly think about Crabtree and/or his situation.It seems that the Niners say one thing,while Crabtree says another.Is he just in his decision to sit out until his demands are met,I think that he is.The reason I say that is because of this,the only person he is affecting is himself.Crabtree sitting out is not affecting me in the least bit,how about you?On the flip side I can see the Niners point of view,you pay according to the slot.Although I believe that there have been cases where a lower draft pick has received a bigger contract than a higher pick(Brady Quinn ??).I just think the Niners(other owners) don't want to set a precedent for a team drafting a player at pick 20 only to have him demand top 5 money or number 1 money for that matter.Will the situation be resolved,it's hard to say.I would say that both parties are at fault,the Niners for not getting a deal done and Crabtree for demanding to much.Now if the Niners would take that all pro linebacker we have for Crabtree I would pull the trigger,Carpenter for Crabtree...lol

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Avaj;2983611 said:
Why would we want to trade for him? It is evident he cares more about money then he does football :confused:

Excellent question.
 

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Q_the_man;2983605 said:
Just thinking he's from Texas, probably a big Cowboy fan.

Just saying if he doesn't sign this season, the 49ers can trade his rights when the FA period starts, instead of getting nothing in return for Crabtree re-entering the draft, maybe they can cut their loses and trade Crabtree for a 3rd....

I bet Jerry would give Crabtree top 10 money.

Even though Crab is a primadonna I think he has star status in his future if he goes to the right team.....


We already have a (Ogle)tree.


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Rogah;2984280 said:
I think some people are going a little bit overboard with the criticism here. Crabtree is not the first football player to sit out and try to get more money, and he won't be the last. Emmitt Smith missed two games in 1993 because he wanted more money and was willing to miss even more if necessary. Does that mean he had no heart and didn't care about winning?

Personally, I think his strategy is a poor one and he is going to lose money in the long run. But I also think that once he finally does sign somewhere, wherever it may be, he will be a solid contributor at his position.

Yep, in the long run he is going to make less money. He misses out on a year of salary this year and the contract he gets next year will not be as high as the one he has passed on up to this point. I have doubts he will be drafted in the 1st round next spring. Teams will be hesitant to use a high pick on the guy. He also puts himself one year further away from his second contract(free agent contract), which is where many guys really make the big bucks.

I can't see it being all about the money because he clearly is willing to leave a bunch of money on the table if he indeed goes back into the draft.

I wouldn't be against having Crabtree in Dallas. It just comes down to what it would take to get him. I don't want Dallas paying too much in terms of draft picks and money to get him. It is too far into the year for him to really have an impact this season, but he could do well in future years. I doubt Dallas makes a play for him via a trade. If he is available at the time they draft next season then they may take him.
 

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burmafrd;2984165 said:
well all you have to do is look at the posters who want him and that says it all.

And what is that? That we recognize that a talented player really wants to play for the Cowboys and we could probably get him cheaper than what he is worth? So what if he doesn't want to play for SF? Eli didn't want to play for the Chargers either...that's why he is with the Giants now.
 

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Couple of things.

#1: We probably could make a move for him (Although not till March at this point) but why bother? Who wants to give up a pick, and then loads of cash, to a guy whose already proven he doesn't care about football and he's a money hungry baby?

#2: Why give up a pick to get him from the niners in March when you can wait another month and pick him up in the 2nd round in the draft. That shows you how stupid this kid is. He's holding out this whole season, for more money, and will go back in the draft next year where he again won't be the first WR taken and there is no chance he's taken in the top 10, and likely falls out of the first round. So do you think he's getting the money he's asking for now next year? No. He'll be getting even less that what has been offered to him already. Smart planning kid. Real smart planning.

#3: Even if we could get him this year, which you can't since he can't be traded till March, he'd be of absolutely no use to us this year. He's not been in any kind of camps or meetings, or anything so he doesn't know a lick about the offense. He isn't in game shape. I am sure he's been working out and all but he isn't in game shape. He'd be absolutely useless to us till next year anyway. Where, again, if we wanted him that bad you can wait and draft him in the actual draft. Since he'll be there again.
 

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nyc;2984171 said:
I don't want Crabtree. Players with heart can win games when overmatched. This kid has no heart. He is all about himself and what money he can get.

Let the 49ers have him.

Have you ever seen him play?
 

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I don't think we need him but I damn shure wouldn't refuse him. The guy was a star at Tech.

Look on Youtube for some of his highlights then tell me you wouldn' t take him if the price was right.
 

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nyc;2984219 said:
Elway's refusal to play for the Colts had nothing to do with money it had to do with his fathers fight with Ersay. Crabtree's has everything to do with money.


And you know this because..........?
 
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