Does anybody else feel the same way about this season and Dak?

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Yep…..its not what he did.

Aikman is the poster child for needing everything perfect around him.
You could say that about a lot of HOF QBs back in that time. But did they do anything to lose the game? If you switch the stat lines between Aikman and Young, the Cowboys probably lose. In some big games, QB play can be the difference. But not that the QB won the game. Of course the Cowboys won the game. An extremely talented team led by Emmitt. But Aikman made a difference. Even if it was just driving the bus and coming up big at the end. He didn't hurt the team.

Look at the 2017 NFC championship game for example. IMO that Vikings QB was the reason they lost. Not the only reason, but a big part of it. You see examples of this throughout history.
 

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So you in essence slam Diggs for dropping a supposed pick 6 and getting a new contract in spite of his poor play yet you immediately say let's not harp on Dak's poor play?
Diggs was 1 year removed from leading the league in INT's with 11 yet you slam his play.....Dak tied for the league lead in INT's yet let's not judge him???? Come on man, the bias is too easy to see in that comment.
the irony of that comment coming from a dak hater :laugh:
 

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For nothing football related. No one gives him crap for what he does off the field. At least I don't.
On the field, he’s led the Cowboys to back to back 12-5 playoff seasons. It’s the first time since 06 and 07 that the Cowboys made the playoffs in back to back seasons. He also just led the Cowboys to their first road playoff win since their last Super Bowl win in 1995 and he did it against Tom Brady. He already has as many playoff wins as Tony Romo in less years. I’ve been critical of his play, but I’ve been following the Cowboys long enough to know it’s not going to be easy finding a better QB than him. There’s only been two QBs in the history of this franchise lead the Cowboys to a championship. Both those QBs had loaded teams with Hall of Fame head coaches. It’s not all Dak’s fault the Cowboys can’t get over the hump.

In the first loss to San Francisco a couple of years ago our defense sucked. Granted Dak didn’t play well, but it wasn’t just him. Last January he played terrible, but we also couldn’t run the ball worth a damn. The entire game got put on him. Some of you will appreciate Dak when the Cowboys are stuck like a lot of teams, unable to make the playoffs because they have a bad QB situation. You must not have been around during the late 80s and early 2000s when the Cowboys were playing musical chairs at QB with one stiff after another, while sitting home for the playoffs every season. You’ll find out if you ever experience that what it’s like to have an embarrassment at QB.
 

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You could say that about a lot of HOF QBs back in that time. But did they do anything to lose the game? If you switch the stat lines between Aikman and Young, the Cowboys probably lose. In some big games, QB play can be the difference. But not that the QB won the game. Of course the Cowboys won the game. An extremely talented team led by Emmitt. But Aikman made a difference. Even if it was just driving the bus and coming up big at the end. He didn't hurt the team.

Look at the 2017 NFC championship game for example. IMO that Vikings QB was the reason they lost. Not the only reason, but a big part of it. You see examples of this throughout history.
Making a difference and not
Losing it is much different than leading your team to a SB.
 

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https://www.espn.com/nfl/playbyplay/_/gameId/401437927

youd think in your trolling youd pick a different game, Yes it was certainly a horrible pass and I bet we could go and find dumb passes from 31 other QBs. Dak and the team ate this vaunted philly defense up that day
I agree with you 100%. But for bad passes, that ranked a 10 of 10. Passes like that can lose games. I'm not even sure that pass reaches the TE if it's not picked off. But it gave the opponent 7 points. Dak did this before, and it gave Washington a chance to come back. As good as Dak was in that game against the Eagles, it still took a 3rd and 30 great pass to have a chance at winning that game. It never had to get to that point.
 

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On the field, he’s led the Cowboys to back to back 12-5 playoff seasons. It’s the first time since 06 and 07 that the Cowboys made the playoffs in back to back seasons. He also just led the Cowboys to their first road playoff win since their last Super Bowl win in 1995 and he did it against Tom Brady. He already has as many playoff wins as Tony Romo in less years. I’ve been critical of his play, but I’ve been following the Cowboys long enough to know it’s not going to be easy finding a better QB than him. There’s only been two QBs in the history of this franchise lead the Cowboys to a championship. Both those QBs had loaded teams with Hall of Fame head coaches. It’s not all Dak’s fault the Cowboys can’t get over the hump.

In the first loss to San Francisco a couple of years ago our defense sucked. Granted Dak didn’t play well, but it wasn’t just him. Last January he played terrible, but we also couldn’t run the ball worth a damn. The entire game got put on him. Some of you will appreciate Dak when the Cowboys are stuck like a lot of teams, unable to make the playoffs because they have a bad QB situation. You must not have been around during the late 80s and early 2000s when the Cowboys were playing musical chairs at QB with one stiff after another, while sitting home for the playoffs every season. You’ll find out if you ever experience that what it’s like to have an embarrassment at QB.
So Dak led Dallas to a 12-5 season last year in spite of missing 5 games due to injury? Damn man, Idon;t know how Dak does it. I mean, to not play yet still get credit with a 4-1 record.

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Beating an 8-9 TB team that hobbled into the playoffs with a poor defense and anemic offense led by a 45-year-old Tom Brady is not an 'accomplishment' but rather an expectation.
 

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You must not have been around during the late 80s and early 2000s when the Cowboys were playing musical chairs at QB with one stiff after another, while sitting home for the playoffs every season. You’ll find out if you ever experience that what it’s like to have an embarrassment at QB.
Unfortunately, I was around for both eras. And for the record, I've never referred to Dak as an embarrassment. He's average to slightly above average and doesn't possess the talent, desire, or passion to push the team over the hump.

I'm also way past the point of giving a damn if anyone likes or dislikes my opinion. Dis me, bash me, flame me, I don't care - it isn't going to change my opinion. Only Dak can do that, and 7 years into his career he hasn't done enough to get the job done.
 

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So Dak led Dallas to a 12-5 season last year in spite of missing 5 games due to injury? Damn man, Idon;t know how Dak does it. I mean, to not play yet still get credit with a 4-1 record.
He won 8 of those games so he helped lead us to a 12-5 season. Did he not?
 

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He won 8 of those games so he helped lead us to a 12-5 season. Did he not?
You claimed that Dak led Dallas to back-to-back 12-5 seasons is inaccurate based on the fact Rush was 4-1 in the 5 games Dak missed in 2022 and Rush was 1-0 in the 1 game Dak missed in 2021 so in 2 seasons Dak has led Dallas to a regular season record of 19-9, not 24-10, and a playoff record of 1-2.
 

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I feel like this season is Dak’s last chance to prove he can be a Superbowl winning QB. Time is running out for Prescott. I won’t hate on guy right now despite feeling his play isn’t good enough to represent Cowboy nation but if we don’t win the superbowl I’ll be angry and won’t watch another game until he’s gone!!!
You'll be watching regardless, but I agree. He's responsible for the SF loss last year. Everyone did their job except him.
 

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I keep reading that Dak lost the two playoff games. He didn't.

There have been 25 times in the playoffs since 2000 where a QB threw 2 INT's and their team still won. There has been 9 playoff games since 2000 where a quarterback threw 3 or more INT's....and his team still won.

Both Roethlisberger and Brady each threw 2 INT's in four playoff games.....and their teams won.

In the 2021 NFC championship game Brady threw 3 INT's in three consecutive drives in the 2nd half, two were in the 4th quarter. His team still won. In 2014 Russel Wilson threw 4 INT's and completed less than half of his passes against the Packers. He was sacked 5 times. The Seahawks still won. Peyton Manning threw 3 INT's in a playoff game against the Chiefs in 2007....His Colts still won.

Dak didn't lose the game because he threw 2 INT's in the 1st half. In fact, the game was tied halfway through the 3rd quarter.

The Cowboys lost because Dak threw 2 INT's....and Pollard got hurt in the 3rd quarter....and the defense couldn't stop the run when they had to......and the Cowboys defense were constantly penalized in critical situations.....and only one WR was getting enough separation.

One season does not make a career. Dak has an historically low INT rate. He is in the top ranks of almost every category.

Barring a devastating injury, Dak has 4-5 years left to play, maybe more. I think he has an excellent chance of being part of a Dallas Cowboys championship team.
This is a great post.... fantastic perspective.
 

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You claimed that Dak led Dallas to back-to-back 12-5 seasons is inaccurate based on the fact Rush was 4-1 in the 5 games Dak missed in 2022 and Rush was 1-0 in the 1 game Dak missed in 2021 so in 2 seasons Dak has led Dallas to a regular season record of 19-9, not 24-10, and a playoff record of 1-2.
It’s not an inaccurate, because if he loses one more game than he did in 2021 and last season, we wouldn’t have had back to back 12-5 seasons. It’s silly that you even want to argue this.
 

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It’s not an inaccurate, because if he loses one more game than he did in 2021 and last season, we wouldn’t have had back to back 12-5 seasons. It’s silly that you even want to argue this. Lol
Who is arguing? I am simply pointing out that your assertion that Dak led Dallas to back-to-back 12-5 seasons is factually inaccurate.
 

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I agree with you 100%. But for bad passes, that ranked a 10 of 10. Passes like that can lose games. I'm not even sure that pass reaches the TE if it's not picked off. But it gave the opponent 7 points. Dak did this before, and it gave Washington a chance to come back. As good as Dak was in that game against the Eagles, it still took a 3rd and 30 great pass to have a chance at winning that game. It never had to get to that point.
I dont know how in the heck Dak could have missed Sweat or the TE that bad. Heck i could make that pass.That being said our said QB gets literally every pass put under a microscope to ridiculous levels. If he just lofts it higher it dont take a 3rd and 30 but that can be said about alot of things. I mean here's his stas for the game.


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he made the great pass on 3rd and 30. bad passes can lose games I agree so can dropped ints, so can bad tackling ,so can penalties and poor play calling. too much of this fanbase is focused on 1 player because when dak does bonehead he does it as good as anyone in the league. I mean i remember a pass to witten or the pass that pappy uses in his gif or that pass that slipped out of his hands. Yea he can look pretty dumb but he also can look elite at times

Im ok with moving on Im ok with keeping him im pretty indifferent on the QB. That said we could do worse.
 

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Who is arguing? I am simply pointing out that your assertion that Dak led Dallas to back-to-back 12-5 seasons is factually inaccurate.
It’s factually not inaccurate. I explained it.
 
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