Does Rush read defenses and see the field better than Dak?

[Blackrain]

He also got a quarter against the Bucs .. and that really didn't look all that great.. and as many here will be quick to tell you, the Bucs were in prevent the whole 4th quarter ... We can't analyze the future.. All we have to go on is what we've seen. And what I have seen over the last 6+ years is that Dak destroys our division foes.. His last division loss was in 2019 which was coincidentally the last time a division foe held the offense to under 21 points with Dak playing. I have little doubt that he will continue to feast on them.. so long as they don't rush him back and have him out there either playing scared or playing with less than 100% grip strength. That would be just dumb.. which is why I'm hoping Rush starts these next two games.. I have no desire to see Dak out there at less than 100% I don't care how loaded the Cooper Rush bandwagon gets. The fact is we can afford to lose both of these next two games so long as Dak comes back and plays up to his capabilities 8-3 or 9-2 down the stretch is very doable. 11-6 or 12-5 will do nicely given that this team was left for dead after trading Cooper, releasing Collins and not signing Williams, Wilson and Gregory following by losing Tyron in training camp. The "experts" pegged them a 5-6 win team after all that.

Surprise! Surprise! Surprise! (in my best Gomer Pyle!)

I'm still going on record as saying that last year teams that were injury-ridden and that rested their starters inflated Daks stats.

When we played decent teams DAk was not scoring over 30 points. We only scored 21 points on the Giants the second time around last year 20 against the chargers 16 against the broncos 9 against the Chiefs 22 I believe against the Cardinals and 17 against the 49ers
That's six games off the top of my head last year that we didn't score 30 points in so the fact that Cooper Rush isn't scoring 30 points every game is not cause for alarm.

If Cooper takes on the Rams and the eagles games DAk should have every opportunity to come back against the Lions and bears to showcase his talents and rebuild his confidence .

At worst were three and three when he takes over again and that's as much as you could ask.

 

[Xeven]

Obviously, Yes!

 

[Xeven]

Rush throws to first open receiver, Dak looks for a better open receiver before he throws. Dak is not as accurate as Rush either.

 

[Portnoy1]

True.
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/cooper-rush/32005255-5304-6607-6ca0-6d97a0d0f253

Very impressed with his Strengths as far as reading defenses. Funny thing draft profile says........does not look the part. What does that even mean? What's a QB supposed to look like?

 

[pitt33]

Man, I think if we see his rookie year, and his numbers in 2021, he is plenty smart and good enough. The issue with him is making the simple mundane read/throw. Rush gets it. Thats why he is winning. He isnt changing things at the line much. Hes just running the offense. Dak just needs to play ball, run the team and stop trying to play hero ball every down. SIMPLE is a great thing in football, at any level. Do the simple things well and consistently, good things happen. Daks gotta stop reinventing the game. ..ie hanging on to the ball and just trust his reads, LET THE BALL GO.Trust what he see's. He who hesitates, gets beat. Rush never hesitates, he just trusts it. When Dak was hurt with his thumb, he hung on too long, waited, then bam, got hurt. I notice with Rush, he never panics in the pocket and he releases the ball quick. TIMING. All this is something Dak can learn from..he use to do this when Linehan was here. I remember. If he can get back to the basics and do these things, great things will happen. Football isnt complicated unless ya make it thus.

I get what your saying but it becomes apparent that his lack of confidence (holding the ball too long etc.) is due to his inability to decipher the zone defenses that are being thrown at him…going back to the Denver game last year. Rush doesn’t panic. Prescott is hyper aware of all the junk going on around him. And it rears its ugly head against good teams.

If Dak comes back and plays poorly this whole thing is going to get really unsettled in Big D.

 

[RonnieT24]

I'm still going on record as saying that last year teams that were injury-ridden and that rested their starters inflated Daks stats.

When we played decent teams DAk was not scoring over 30 points. We only scored 21 points on the Giants the second time around last year 20 against the chargers 16 against the broncos 9 against the Chiefs 22 I believe against the Cardinals and 17 against the 49ers
That's six games off the top of my head last year that we didn't score 30 points in so the fact that Cooper Rush isn't scoring 30 points every game is not cause for alarm.

If Cooper takes on the Rams and the eagles games DAk should have every opportunity to come back against the Lions and bears to showcase his talents and rebuild his confidence .

At worst were three and three when he takes over again and that's as much as you could ask.

So Philly and the Giants were "injury riddled" and "resting their starters in games 3 and 5 last season? And who was injured or resting for New England and Tampa, two of his best games.. where he rang up damn near 850 yards 6 TDs and 2 INTs in the two games. So the Cowboys didn't score 30 in every game last year.. They DID score 30 in at 8 games to go along with two others where they hit 27 and one other (Tampa) that they hit 29. And the only reason it wasn't 30+ against Tampa was Greg the Limpleg missing two field goals and an extra point. No not scoring 30 every game is not cause for alarm per se.. but we know there are going to be games where we need to. It's not realistic that this defense is going to hold every opponent under 20. What have you seen from the offense with Rush to make you believe they can?

But I am 100% with you that if we are 3-3 when Dak comes back we will be fine.

 

[RonnieT24]

Rush throws to first open receiver, Dak looks for a better open receiver before he throws. Dak is not as accurate as Rush either.

If that's the case why does Dak complete a higher percentage of his passes for more yards per attempt?

Asking for a friend..

 

[FVSTONE]

Dak obviously has a better arm and is more athletic. But is Rush a better at seeing the field? Reading defenses and a better game manager?

I'd say 3-0 answers your question.

 

[Cboyfan4ever]

If that's the case why does Dak complete a higher percentage of his passes for more yards per attempt?

Asking for a friend..

Lots of dump offs and short passes.The only thing that really negatively affects yds. per attempt are incompletions.When you’re dumping off and throwing short there aren’t going to be many incompletions to negatively affect yds per attempt.It’s a very skewed stat, just like so many of them.A slightly better gauge would be air yds per attempt.

 

[Blackrain]

The Giants were three win team last year and we could only score 20 points on them the second time we played them.

Yes we blew the eagles out both times but The second time they were resting their players .

Carolina a five win team Atlanta seven win team.
After the New England game things started to spiral in a bad direction.

I thought after a full off season to work on his game no injury to rehab that DAk would hit the ground running and be sharp .

I was wrong and I don't want to hear he didn't have any preseason games to get ready if he thought he needed them he should have made that known and played in some till he felt comfortable.

If we are going to make the postseason Dak flat out has to be better than he has shown in his last few starts no matter what he has done in years past it is not relevant to what is going on right now.

Fortunately Cooper has kept the ship afloat and will afford him a nice cushion to come back against the Detroit Lions and then the Chicago Bears.
If he doesn't play well against these teams it is seriously time for concern.

 

[Whirlwin]

Are you confuse, again? A few days ago you were posting that you changed your mind about Dak and that he would never win a SB for the Cowboys, now you are doing a 180. What's wrong with you?

I still think we need a franchise quarterback. But I’m going to support the quarterback that’s playing. What’s the problem

 

[Whirlwin]

Are you confuse, again? A few days ago you were posting that you changed your mind about Dak and that he would never win a SB for the Cowboys, now you are doing a 180. What's wrong with you?

I think you’re confused. You just don’t understand. Just because I think we need a franchise quarterback does it mean I don’t think Prescott is the entire issue

 

[Captain-Crash]

Strengths

• Started all but three games during career and was team captain his junior and senior seasons
• Defined by cerebral approach
• Has bachelor of science degree in actuarial science off-the-field and masters in full-field reads on the field
• Juggernaut in film room
• Hits the field with well-conceived plans of attack based on his studies
• Makes all the pre-snap decisions rather than looking to sideline
• Quick processor able to scan and decide rapidly
• Interceptions rarely the result of poor decisions
• Overcomes arm deficiencies with outstanding timing and accuracy
• Anticipatory thrower with feel for developing windows
• Able to lead receivers on crossing routes and long balls and can throw receivers open underneath
• Very good natural accuracy
• Completion percentage penalized by excessive drop totals
• Good pocket poise
• Climbs pocket with eyes downfield when heat comes around the corners and can slide left or right before delivering accurate strikes
• Has history from under center in play-action, pro-style attack and works all three levels of the field
• Dump-downs are only a final option

nice try, check the bold.
The guy is smart, not a guy who's studied to be workforce leadership and psychology. I guess basket weaving classes were full.

nice positives

 

[leeblair]

Dak obviously has a better arm and is more athletic. But is Rush a better at seeing the field? Reading defenses and a better game manager?

When have you EVER seen Dak check into another play and make a snap decision that caught the defense at a disadvantage?
Cooper knows what he's trying to accomplish and plays with purpose, whereas Dak seems to be guessing.
That's the difference Rush has brought to the offense.

 

[morat1959]

Dak obviously has a better arm and is more athletic. But is Rush a better at seeing the field? Reading defenses and a better game manager?

Is this a trick question? If ain’t even close!

 

[Bigrandrn]

Dak obviously has a better arm and is more athletic. But is Rush a better at seeing the field? Reading defenses and a better game manager?

Possibly….I’ve seen many times where Dak stands back there and pats the ball and looks like he doesn’t know where he wants to go, or gets flustered and throws balls in the dirt or over peoples heads….too often. Too many stretches like that which lead to punts and we fall behind good teams and lose. I’m not a Dak hater, I’d love if he lead the team to a super bowl….I was in 9th grade last time…but if he’s lacking in something, I won’t pretend he isn’t just to support him.

 

[DCreppinBoysfan]

His ball placement seems a lot better than Dak. He hits players in stride. That’s the biggest criticism I’ve had of Dak. Especially on slants. Dak has been underwhelming on timing routes, especially inside.


That back shoulder pass that Cooper made to Brown(that he didn’t catch) isnt a pass we see often from Dak

 

[zekecowboy]

Dak obviously has a better arm and is more athletic. But is Rush a better at seeing the field? Reading defenses and a better game manager?

Can Reality do a poll on this matter?

 

[RonnieT24]

Lots of dump offs and short passes.The only thing that really negatively affects yds. per attempt are incompletions.When you’re dumping off and throwing short there aren’t going to be many incompletions to negatively affect yds per attempt.It’s a very skewed stat, just like so many of them.A slightly better gauge would be air yds per attempt.

This is an interesting take.. so I looked it up.. The cool thing about all these new age stats is they have numbers on almost everything.. Dak's air yards per attempt (how far in the air the ball travels) was 7.7 last season, which was the second lowest of his career trailing only his 2018 which was the first year the stat was tracked. This year so far Rush's air yards per attempt is 7.8. So in essence his average pass attempt is going 3.6 inches further than Dak's.. but his completion percentage is considerably lower. 60.8% to 68.8% for Dak last year. No sane person is going to tell me that a completion percentage 8 points lower is worth an extra 4 inches per pass. And again, Dak's numbers were dragged down by the post injury slump. Up until the New England game his completion percentage was I believe 75% and his yards per attempt was approaching 9. Now if Dak continues to play as he did against Tampa you might have a case.. but even the most fervent Dak haters don't think that's the best he can do.. Even if he just gets back to the post-injury level he will surpass Rush.. and if he gets back to the pre-injury level.. he will surpass pretty much everybody not named Rodgers or Mahomes. And even they might not be out of reach..

 

[Slick]

Post like that are best ignored completely. Unless you know one of these guys personally you have no idea if he's smart or not. And the argument that a QB who wins better than 65% of his games in the NFL is not a good football is a moronic premise and equally unworthy of acknowledgement. We're all unhappy with the inconsistently Dak has displayed over the last 12-13 games.. but the fact of the matter is that even while he was "slumping" last season there were more good games than bad.. I expect Dak to at least get back to that level.. and if he can get back to the level he was at through the first 6 games of last year, we're on our way to the Super Bowl.. I know that's what I'm rooting for.. because as nice a story as this Cooper Rush thing is, we aint gittin to the Super Bowl scoring 22 points a game.

Numbers alone don’t mean squat in a vacuum.
Aikman didn’t have stellar numbers. He won big games when it mattered. Dak hasn’t. Against winning teams his numbers aren’t that good.

Beating up on the East to pad numbers needs to be looked at. Cooper has been steady, and not turning the ball over.
Yes he won’t really be judged until Sunday, but his receivers haven’t been spinning around to make catches, and he hasn’t missed wide open guys like Dak has. He’s made some great throws, Dak hasn’t.

I’ll take slow and steady wins over garbage numbers any day.

Dak is way overpriced, and hasn’t improved against winning teams which is really the yard stick, not huge numbers against losing teams. The team is stuck with an albatross, but that’s all on Jerry.
Again let’s see what happens this weekend.