Does Tony Romo belong in the HOF over Eli Manning?

[Ranched]

Doesn't matter. They're both going. Romo was a better quarterback. In 16 career seasons, Manning threw 30 touchdowns in a year just three times. Romo did that 4 times in 13 years and never got an opportunity as early as Manning. Eli never completed 60% of his throws until his 5th year in the league. Romo NEVER finished a season under 60 percent. Romo was a hell of a lot better at protecting the football too.

Eli Manning: 60.3%, 4.1 TD%, 3.4 INT%, Yards per Attempt – 7, Adjusted Net yards per attempt – 5.92, Rating – 84.1

Tony Romo: 65.3%, 5.7 TD%, 2.7 INT%, Yards per Attempt – 7.9, Adjusted Net yards per attempt – 7.03, Rating – 97.1

I think people forget how good Romo was. Dallas wasn’t nearly as talented as they are now either. Romo dealt with some horrible offensive lines & got hurt often because of them. Eli had some serious weapons & a defensive line that could take over a game. Romo has the 4th highest passer rating in league history. Romo sits behind just Rodgers, Wilson, Brees. Romo was freaking GOOD.

Let’s also not forget that Eli has a record of 117-117. Romo has a record of 78-49. Romo also only had one great coach his entire career, Bill Parcells, & Jerry ran him out of town. Eli was gifted Tom Coughlin & the Giants kept him for the majority of his career.

If not for Tyree's Helmet Catch & Manningham's Tight Rope Sideline Catch. Eli wouldn't have 2 rings.

 

[atlantacowboy]

No. We live in a pass happy era so stats are discounted. What can't be discounted are super bowl rings. Eli has 2 and those might not be enough but he's got a way better chance than Romo and his 1 playoff win......... and i'm a romo fan.

 

[Ozone22]

Eli's 2 Rings will trump Romo's stats.

Just his playoffs wins alone do that.

 

[Ranched]

Manning actually had more all-time passing yards than Romo.

The statistics quickly say yes. Romo's completion rating, touchdowns, interceptions and quarterback rating all state that he is a better field general than Eli. Eli threw for about 800 more yards than Romo, but his completion rating was five percentage points lower and he attempted more passes. Eli had 15 years in the league compared to Romo's 13. Not a fair assessment is it?!

 

[mattjames2010]

No. Whether we like it or not, Eli Manning has two of the best throws in Super Bowl history and helped lead a win over one of the best teams the NFL has ever seen. You can't talk about NFL history without mentioning what Eli and his Giants did.

Romo COULD have been a HOF, same as I think players like Rivers could have been. He's in that tier. In some alternate universe, Brees ends up in Miami and Romo goes to the Saints with Payton and his career becomes HOF worthy.

This is still one of the most unbelievable throws I have ever seen a QB make, the fact it was in crunch time in the SB when it happens makes it even more impressive. Never did I think Manning was capable of such a throw.

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

The media personalities that even decided to talk about Romo and the HOF are crazy. We all know the answer is no, so what is there to talk about? Guess they had to throw in Eli to make it interesting.

 

[DanTanna]

Romo could have won a Superbowl with Eli's teams easily. He would have won on any Superbowl winning team IMO. But he was in Emmitt Smith's position - "A diamond surrounded by trash".

 

[75boyz]

I think it’s more than just regular season play. Eli has a myriad of accolades that the HOF covets:

1. he is top 10 in both yards and TDs. Every player higher than 13th is projected to be a HoFer. Would be peculiar to exclude one that high up.

2. he started 222 consecutive games, the third highest QB streak ever. This is a monster stat that the NFL has historically flaunted.

3. Eli Manning won 8 playoff games in 9 appearances over a course of 2007-2011. The only other players who have ever accomplished this were in the GOAT conversation at the time of their retirement.

They’re not traditional stats like passer rating or success against winning teams, but I think Eli has a strong case to be a hall of Famer both as the NFL’s modern day iron man as well as a playoff legend

I like the vast majority of your posts man but if you flip the script here and go post 2012 'til retirement then I personally can't give a free pass for Eli's performance.

He accumulated longevity stats while doing the consecutive games streak but all the while achieving a career .500 record as a starter. For that many games started I need to see more evidence of a difference maker.
I get all the public perception and last name and career stats numbers but Eli Manning's teams had 2 great SB team runs.

Kinda like Flacco. It's just Flacco just had one SB team run.

The first part of his career was probably HOF worthy maybe as you mention but then he fell off a cliff if you ask me.

jmo

 

[ESisback]

Romo won’t get in, and the argument will be “no rings”. Eli will, because he has two rings and he’s a Manning. IMHO, Romo was better than Eli, but the HOF kinda reminds me of the that RnR HOF in Cleveland. Some get preferential treatment.

 

[Pass2Run]

The statistics quickly say yes. Romo's completion rating, touchdowns, interceptions and quarterback rating all state that he is a better field general than Eli. Eli threw for about 800 more yards than Romo, but his completion rating was five percentage points lower and he attempted more passes. Eli had 15 years in the league compared to Romo's 13. Not a fair assessment is it?!

That wasn't the point of my post. I was merely saying Eli was top 10 in overall passing yards after someone said that's a yardstick to measure HOF talent.

If I'm building a team and have to pick between Eli stinking Manning and Romo, I'm taking Romo every time. No doubt he was a better player, individually. Just never had the luck of being surrounded by talent, like Eli did with those defenses he won with.

 

[JeffInDC]

Manning actually had more all-time passing yards than Romo.

I forgot that...thanks. I didn't even realize until today that he started for 14 years vs. Romo's 8 (and 2 cut short by injury). Eli was durable.

 

[DallasEast]

The less than 50 folks listed at this link chose which players, coaches or contributors will get enshrined based on their opinions. Practically everything they and their predecessors have done since the Hall was established suggests Tony Romo has a small probability of ever getting through the four preliminary consideration stages and receiving the mandatory 80% votes for enshrinement as a player IF he ever made it as a Finalist.

People can research for themselves just how often non-1st ballot players get kick around the consideration process and kicked out along the way each year. Here's the link. Perhaps that will be enough for some to finally understand it is not what they think will get Romo into the Hall but what the Board of Selectors think of him as a player.

Now, based upon the praise he has received as a broadcaster in his short career, there are early indications that Romo's chances will grow high enough to garner an 80% vote from the Board some day as a contributor. If he gains that privilege, Romo will be no more or less a Hall of Famer as everyone else already enshrined or will be enshrined.

Seriously, there should be some practicality involved in this type of discussion. There is a history between the Board and this franchise getting people inducted. Players like CHUCK HOWLEY are still on the outside looking in but some still believe Romo is a sure lock based on his statistics alone? C'mon people. Get real.

 

[Brax]

Stat base......probably but HOFer's QB position is winning Super Bowls. Eli has two.......deserve or not.

Don't overlook the idiot TR had for a GM, EM is in, Romo most likely no, all you folks who say winning isn't a QB stat those PO and SB wins will get him in.

 

[Pass2Run]

Romo could have won a Superbowl with Eli's teams easily. He would have won on any Superbowl winning team IMO. But he was in Emmitt Smith's position - "A diamond surrounded by trash".

Emmitt was such a moron towards the end of his career.

He would rather be a subpar RB than just hang them up. All about himself and the record, and the teams and fans suffered from his huge ego.

My favorite moment as a Cowboy fan was watching Roy Williams stick him so hard that Emmitt cried, after his diamond comment.

Never thought I'd say this about a player who was key to so many SBs, but good riddance. I was glad to see him when he arrived, even happier when he finally left.

 

[terra]

Romo definitely not. And I dont think Eli is 1st ballot.

But his career stats and team achievements definitely separate him from Romo and most QB’s this era of similar talent level.

Hey, Vinny Testaverde had a lot of career stats.

See how that fails?

They guy NEVER led the NFL in passing; NEVER was a real MVP candidate; never was ALL Pro.

His first ring belongs to the D and a kid making an impossible catch.

Anyone thinking Eli deserves to be in the HOF is a total football moron.

 

[TequilaCowboy]

I think it’s more than just regular season play. Eli has a myriad of accolades that the HOF covets:

1. he is top 10 in both yards and TDs. Every player higher than 13th is projected to be a HoFer. Would be peculiar to exclude one that high up.

2. he started 222 consecutive games, the third highest QB streak ever. This is a monster stat that the NFL has historically flaunted.

3. Eli Manning won 8 playoff games in 9 appearances over a course of 2007-2011. The only other players who have ever accomplished this were in the GOAT conversation at the time of their retirement.

They’re not traditional stats like passer rating or success against winning teams, but I think Eli has a strong case to be a hall of Famer both as the NFL’s modern day iron man as well as a playoff legend

Beating the then undefeated Patriots in the SB can't hurt either. He will get in, like it or not. As for Romo, i am a big fan of his.....but no.

 

[terra]

Romo? Definitely not. His inability to elevate his team in the playoffs disqualifies him.

Manning? No way should he, but he will get in. Any objective fan who watched Manning on a weekly basis would never put Manning in the HoF. But since he played in NY, with the silly NY Sports writers, Manning will get in based on his 2 rings. Eli Manning was actually a pretty mediocre QB for years but he made plays in big games. To me Eli Manning will always be the QB who was looking at the pass rush and falling down before he got hit.

In a way, Manning and Romo were opposites. Romo was a really good QB all season who seemed to have bad luck in the playoffs. Manning was an ugly QB most of the time who benefited from some memorable plays in the post season.

Eli benefited from one of the weirdest catches in football history

 

[terra]

Beating the then undefeated Patriots in the SB can't hurt either. He will get in, like it or not. As for Romo, i am a big fan of his.....but no.

The NY writers no longer have the pull they once did; I doubt Eli gets in. Jim Plunkett has two rings and deserves it more but has never come close.

 

[RS12]

Neither belongs but one will get in. It isnt Romo.

 

[Diehardblues]

Hey, Vinny Testaverde had a lot of career stats.

See how that fails?

They guy NEVER led the NFL in passing; NEVER was a real MVP candidate; never was ALL Pro.

His first ring belongs to the D and a kid making an impossible catch.

Anyone thinking Eli deserves to be in the HOF is a total football moron.

Providing arguing points and saying he is deserving isn’t one in the same.