Does Zeke have any shot at the Hall of Fame?

[mattjames2010]

He made one great throw.. the one to Manningham in the second Super Bowl.. Aint no way in hell I'm going to call that close your eyes and heave it and pray for the the guy to catch it on his helmet a "great throw." A great catch, yes.. even a nice bit of shuffling to avoid the sack.. but a great throw? Hell naw..

He made two great throws - one was an improvised throw, the other was a classic throw from the pocket.

More bad posts from you. Zeke is gone after this season by the way - cope with that.

 

[links18]

If Herschel Walker isn't in the HOF, I doubt Zeke makes it.

 

[Runwildboys]

I don't even think Eli's playoff stats were all that great.. He just had two nice post season runs.. If not for 2007 and 2011 his playoff passer rating would be in the 60's. Has any player ever gotten more mileage out of a couple of 4 game hot streaks? Other than those two post seasons he was horrible.. and in the regular season he was below average and well below what Dak has done to date.

His receivers saved his butt on many occasions.

 

[DuncanIso]

At one time, I thought it would be a distinct possibility. Not so much now.

he needs 10k rushing yards .

a ring goes a long way too.

 

[RonnieT24]

He made two great throws - one was an improvised throw, the other was a classic throw from the pocket.

More bad posts from you. Zeke is gone after this season by the way - cope with that.

I can cope with it however it shakes out. I've seen some of my all time favorite players leave the Cowboys and have managed just fine. But can you stop coming here daily to whine about him being here if he stays? Something tells me I already know the answer.

 

[RonnieT24]

he needs 10k rushing yards .

a ring goes a long way too.

Got Bettis and his career 3.9 ypc in didn't it?

 

[RodeoJake]

Wood Zeke has a chance if he can be pried away from the cigar store

 

[5Stars]

At one time, I thought it would be a distinct possibility. Not so much now.

What? What kind of question is that.

Of course he can go into the HOF up in Canton...tickets are free. So cool to see that place...the memories of where the game started...I was lucky to get to see that building.

 

[mrmojo]

I would not be so quick to poo poo the achievement that is playing 15 years at a position that eats most guys up in 3-4 years. Gore may never have been considered the very very best in the game during his time in the NFL.. but if that's the criteria wouldn't that disqualify any receiver that overlapped with Jerry Rice? Or any of the 2000 QBs who overlapped with Brady.. including Peyton Manning? Do we dismiss every QB who has overlapped with Rodgers? Mahomes? There is something to be said for being really good for a very long time even if one was never the best of the best.. I know it's a fine line.. but one assumes the voters know the difference. I mean Eli is probably getting in at some point.. and even Giants fans would never accuse of ever having been the best in the game at any point in his career.

If that's the case don't call it the Hall of Fame...I always equate the HOF as the best of the best....but its hardly that anymore.

 

[jay94]

Zero chance, good shot he's out of the league next year.

 

[75boyz]

He's going to need to rack up quite a bit more stats. Seems the magic hall number is 12k+ career rushing yards unless you racked up a few Lombardi's. I think he'll settle somewhere in the Corey Dillion, Fred Taylor, Ricky Waters, Jamal Lewis space. Regarded as having a great career, but just a notch below hall of fame. Maybe he could eventually get in as a senior member, but he'll probably rack up atleast 10k to 12k rushing yards by the time he's done. If he takes on a more part time role maybe he can extend his career and pusha that higher.

Really good post. I can't help myself but when they say Hall of Fame player I just gotta see one of the best at his position for an extended period of time. All Pro and/or multiple all pros window(s) of dominance, consistency and a winner. (some exceptions)

While I agree with your whole post and all the players mentioned you can add in additional players like Tiki Barber, Stephen Jackson and Frank Gore. These might be a step up in talent and stats but were they one of the best?

So again, I go back to my original post here.

I mean, Curtis Martin? If he's the standard then plenty mentioned here qualify as well, smh.

But yeah, good post man. Just thought I'd add a few more to the Hall of Good or Very Good.

In my opinion anyways.

 

[Pass2Run]

Nope.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

At this time I give him a zero percent chance of getting into the HOF.

...so your saying there's a chance..

 

[1972COWBOY]

I agree. But you don’t have to be.

And his two rushing titles is something . At least when considering best of an era.

Time will tell if he reaches 10,000 rushing yards ( already has 10,000 total yards) or the automatic induction of 12,000 which isn’t as likely.

I could see Jethro enabling him to reach these career marks if he agrees to a team friendly contract.

Well yea with 17 games per season now.

 

[zekecowboy]

DallasCowboys.com writer Patrik Walker elicited the best explanation for why both Pollard and Elliott are needed out of running back coach Skip Peete, who mentioned tandems he’s been involved with dating back to Bo Jackson and Marcus Allen. Peete crystalized something I’ve stated many times over, that Pollard can never be the workhorse back Elliott is with a great metaphor.

“[Pollard] played a total of 30 plays, and I think that’s his max – as far as total play count – because then the juice doesn’t become the same and he’s not as quick, not as fast,” said Peete. “When he got that long run on third-and-1, soon as he got to the sideline he said, ‘Coach, I’m done. Done for the game. I’ve got no more.’

“Tony’s obviously a very talented runner and good all-around back, but some guys are race cars. Some guys are high-quality, expensive sedans and those sedans can go for a long distance at a very high rate, whereas race cars go very fast and quick and run out of gas.”

Pollard is a free agent after the 2022 season, his four-year rookie contract coming to an end. Elliott’s extension locked him in through 2026, as he had two years remaining, but the guaranteed money is now complete.

Pollard doesn’t deserve a contract at the level of Elliott’s; no running back is going to get that anymore. But the Cowboys certainly don’t want him to walk out the door.

Meanwhile, the Cowboys have compensated Elliott for what he’s done on the field and what he’s been for the franchise. His $10.9 million salary in 2023 will be too high for a player in a defined snap share.

But there’s an easy answer here that likely gets all parties involved into a good space.

https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/lists/cowboys-elliott-pollard-2023-contracts/

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

I’m not sure Zeke even gets another contract anywhere after he’s cut this year

 

[Kingofholland]

Really good post. I can't help myself but when they say Hall of Fame player I just gotta see one of the best at his position for an extended period of time. All Pro and/or multiple all pros window(s) of dominance, consistency and a winner. (some exceptions)

While I agree with your whole post and all the players mentioned you can add in additional players like Tiki Barber, Stephen Jackson and Frank Gore. These might be a step up in talent and stats but were they one of the best?

So again, I go back to my original post here.

I mean, Curtis Martin? If he's the standard then plenty mentioned here qualify as well, smh.

But yeah, good post man. Just thought I'd add a few more to the Hall of Good or Very Good.

In my opinion anyways.

Some good names you added. Barber and Jackson had some big seasons and for a year or 2 were probably amongst the best but not consistently there. Both probably on the bubble, while Gore will get in because he's 3rd all-time.

 

[3rdEyewarrior]

At one time, I thought it would be a distinct possibility. Not so much now.

if he gets 3 gages this year with Tyron, Tyler abd zack stsrting, he’ll explode and look like the old zeke.

 

[kskboys]

I've been watching football long enough to know that bus drivers don't make this type of throw in these moments.



Eli Manning didn't have the best career of any QB, he did, however, have some of the best playoff and Super Bowl performances because he dug deep and made these throws in clutch moments. This is the opposite of a bus driver, which you labeled him. Of course his defense played well, it is still a team game - but they were down in both Super Bowls and Eli's clutch play brought them back to topple the greatest NFL dynasty 2x

If you've been watching football that long, then you know that they do occasionally.

 

[Calvin2Tony2Emmitt2Julius]

If that happens I think his chances go up from 40/60 to 50/50.. But I still think he would more on his resume. Maybe another Super Bowl run.. If he gets released here and goes somewhere where they hand him the ball 25 times a game for a couple of years and he leads the league again or comes close that will change the equation as well. The narrative will instantly shift to how stupid the Cowboys were not only for not re-signing him but for not really using him the last three years he was in Dallas.

Well I think it's stupid to get rid of any player of Zeke's status without his replacement already on staff. You give him a contract that works for both sides, sign Pollard. We have never been SB contender without a running game