Don't be surprised if the Cowboys end up missing the playoffs

KJJ

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Zimmy Lives;3133814 said:
You may be right about the coach not having a clue but you also have to ask the question: Is there enough talent to win when wins matter?

We are about to find out....

I haven't heard anyone question the talent on this team it's the leadership and head coach who everyone questions.
 

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I know I am wasting my keystrokes but I'll say it again anyway: December games are NO MORE IMPORTANT than games in September, October, or November.

Just ask Wayne Fontes.

For those of you too young to remember the former Lions coach they would have a terrible record all season until the final month or so then win a bunch of games but just miss the playoffs. Guess what, they went 5-0 to end the season but STILL missed the playoffs. It didn't matter that they won in December because they had lost their first 5 games in Sept/Oct.

Does it really matter when you win games or does it only matter that you win enough games?

In 2007 we were 11-1 heading into December. We had already clinched home field in the NFC by beating the 10-1 Packers. We went 2-2 in December mostly because we were not going all out and only scored 6 points against both the Eagles & Commanders in the two losses.

The 5 and 7 game winning streaks earlier in the season were what got us into the playoffs and we lost a close game, that we should have won, to the eventual SB champs.

Had we lost every game in December we STILL would have won the division and made the playoffs with an 11-5 record. Winning 11 games from Sept-Nov is what won us the division, December was irrelevant for us that season.

This myth about December games is ridiculous. You simply need to win enough games in order to make the playoffs, it really doesn't matter when you win them.

I know I just wasted my time but I felt I had to try anyway. :bang2: :bang2: :bang2:
 

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KJJ;3133838 said:
I haven't heard anyone question the talent on this team it's the leadership and head coach who everyone questions.

Maybe they should.
 

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Don't be surprised if they make it also.

Teams and chemistry are a funny thing, not an exact science.

If the Cowboys "want it" enough they can play with anybody. Sometimes it takes that one coach (Lombardi), player (the playmaker) to reach down and really bring out more in a team.

Brooking may be the start, hope its enough.
 

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THUMPER;3133839 said:
I know I am wasting my keystrokes but I'll say it again anyway: December games are NO MORE IMPORTANT than games in September, October, or November.

Just ask Wayne Fontes.

For those of you too young to remember the former Lions coach they would have a terrible record all season until the final month or so then win a bunch of games but just miss the playoffs. Guess what, they went 5-0 to end the season but STILL missed the playoffs. It didn't matter that they won in December because they had lost their first 5 games in Sept/Oct.

Does it really matter when you win games or does it only matter that you win enough games?

In 2007 we were 11-1 heading into December. We had already clinched home field in the NFC by beating the 10-1 Packers. We went 2-2 in December mostly because we were not going all out and only scored 6 points against both the Eagles & Commanders in the two losses.

The 5 and 7 game winning streaks earlier in the season were what got us into the playoffs and we lost a close game, that we should have won, to the eventual SB champs.

Had we lost every game in December we STILL would have won the division and made the playoffs with an 11-5 record. Winning 11 games from Sept-Nov is what won us the division, December was irrelevant for us that season.

This myth about December games is ridiculous. You simply need to win enough games in order to make the playoffs, it really doesn't matter when you win them.

I know I just wasted my time but I felt I had to try anyway. :bang2: :bang2: :bang2:

Well said, Thump... Too bad everyone will ignore the point.
 

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Everlastingxxx;3133806 said:
I am a negative person, but i feel very positive about this team and very confident about this weekends game. I don’t think this is the same team and i feel they now found something to rally around and i believe they will play their best game of the season.

My bones feel joy about this team and i can’t seem to shake it. I didn’t feel this way last week before the Giants game. Regardless if this team doesn’t make the playoffs, i did enjoy this years team. I like the players and i like the chemistry so much more than last years version. That’s all.

Maybe your on something.

On the otherhand if you multiply two negatives you get a positive.Maybe your negative vibes and the negative vibes surrounding Valley Ranch are resulting in a false positive.

Craig
 

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KJJ;3133804 said:
No, the point is if they lose important games Dec games every season they're choking. What we're seeing is a TREND just like the breakdowns on defense that we don't see all year until the big December games arrive. It happens every year and the team is always looking for someone as the scapegoat. The reason leadership and chemistry is such an issue with this team is they always FOLD in the money games and don't have a leader for a head coach. Wade Phillips doesn't have a CLUE how to prepare a team for a playoff run.

I may have argued with you about it anything more than coincedence or a case of bad luck with us getting hard teams in Dec. until reading that last sentence which I do agree with you there and if you are asking that Jerry please go after a new coaching staff next year, then I agree with you.

This team makes the mistakes that are more of the preparation / coaching kind rather than talent. Frankly, we need a real coaching staff in here and Jerry will need to allow that coach to really coach.

Jerry is a great owner, maybe the best in the NFL, but as a GM he is a little too mettling to where real coaches do not want to coach here because of fear of being someone else's puppet.
 

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Chocolate Lab;3133850 said:
Well said, Thump... Too bad everyone will ignore the point.
Not everyone. Only those who focus on certain sections of the overall schedule.

Hold it. I forgot about the game day threads.

Allow me to rephrase.

Not everyone. Only those who focus on certain sections of the overall schedule and claim that games are over in the first quarter.
 

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THUMPER;3133839 said:
I know I am wasting my keystrokes but I'll say it again anyway: December games are NO MORE IMPORTANT than games in September, October, or November.

Just ask Wayne Fontes.

For those of you too young to remember the former Lions coach they would have a terrible record all season until the final month or so then win a bunch of games but just miss the playoffs. Guess what, they went 5-0 to end the season but STILL missed the playoffs. It didn't matter that they won in December because they had lost their first 5 games in Sept/Oct.

Does it really matter when you win games or does it only matter that you win enough games?

In 2007 we were 11-1 heading into December. We had already clinched home field in the NFC by beating the 10-1 Packers. We went 2-2 in December mostly because we were not going all out and only scored 6 points against both the Eagles & Commanders in the two losses.

The 5 and 7 game winning streaks earlier in the season were what got us into the playoffs and we lost a close game, that we should have won, to the eventual SB champs.

Had we lost every game in December we STILL would have won the division and made the playoffs with an 11-5 record. Winning 11 games from Sept-Nov is what won us the division, December was irrelevant for us that season.

This myth about December games is ridiculous. You simply need to win enough games in order to make the playoffs, it really doesn't matter when you win them.

I know I just wasted my time but I felt I had to try anyway. :bang2: :bang2: :bang2:

Of course you are correct Thumper. It's good to hit the playoffs hot though. Maybe they are sandbagging and holding out and will spring Choice as the every down back and the end of the year, other teams were game planning on Barber and we'll catch them off guard :)
 

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KJJ;3133779 said:
...We just gave the Giants new life when we could have pretty much buried them and they now have a very good shot to make the playoffs as at least a wildcard team...

so the Giants, who as of today are 1 game behind us in the standings have a very good shot to make the playoffs but the Cowboys dont ?

we have 2 games against the same opponents, Washington and Philly.
we play the Chargers and Saints.
they play Carolina and Minnesota.

i fail to see how they have a "good shot" and you think we dont.
sorry just have to disagree.

i have learned that when people start a comment with "i hate to be negative", they usually dont hate it at all.
 

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Wow, you guys are hard on this poster. Trust me, he is not alone in his beliefs.

CBS sports has projected us to make it as the 6th seed after loosing to SD and NO, then beating WASH and PHILLY. Everyone knows media types are way smarter than us regular folks.

I have hopes for us to make it and for Wade to return. If we beat SD, which is doable, anything can happen.
 

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bootyhunta;3133791 said:
Can we play at least one or two more in December games before judgement on this team is passed?

No, that would make sense. Don't bring that in here. Upsets the villagers.

Since Wade and Romo exist, NO Dallas team, past, present or future will never be the same. Every team is the same.
 

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