Draftniks - early looksie at Dallas draft

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Brian Leonard might be as solid a lock as there could be for Parcells...

That guy will be a stud, as I mentioned in another thread.

I wont pretened to act like an expert, but seeing as hes a FB, and from a small school, I think hell go around round 3. Id love him on here bc he can be a serious weapon, he can run, block, and catch but Im not sure if we can use that pick on a bigger need.
 

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burmafrd said:
This team right NOW needs to upgrade at FS and the O line. BUT we have some young people that might, by the end of the year, show that we have either more or less to worry about in those positions. That is why any mocks now are truly WORTHLESS.

I agree. As of right now, it looks like free safety will be our only starting need, which to me makes it the priority and the logical first round pick since you typically want to get someone who can contribute immediately with that pick.

But things can definitely change, and even if safety remained our only starting need, I would have to see who is available with the pick before feeling Dallas should take a FS No. 1.
 

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Nors said:
I happened to catch that play live -

Holy Mackerall - that pass looked air mailed. Over his head and behind him. He somehow grabbed it one handed and brought it in. One of the most amazing catches I ever saw. Kick in the chestnuts it was called back on penalty....
me too, I couldnt believe he caught it, it looked like he caught it with two fingers when i saw it live. Crazy stuff, I would love to steal him away from the 49ers. He can make some big plays if he has time to get open.
 

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I can't imagine anybody giving up a 1st round pick for an eleven year vet.
 

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Nors said:
Put your mock out there.

Okey dokey... I'll do it just a bit differently, at first I'll offer a few alternatives for each pick, in order of my preference, then at the end I'll lay out how I'd do it if everything broke right... but I won't be projecting any trades of veterans...

FIRST ROUND:

Marcus McNeil, OT, Auburn... 6-9, 340 pounds, 5.25 sec. 40
Jonathon Scott, OT, Texas... 6-7, 310 pounds, 5.2 sec. 40
Rodrique Wright, DT, Texas... 6-4, 316 pounds, 4.95 sec. 40

If the Cowboys stay in the first round (if they're drafting as low as I expect them to, certainly after pick 20, I'd think seriously about trading down into the early 2nd round and add another 2nd or 3rd rounder), then I say go for offensive line help...

SECOND ROUND:

Michael Huff, FS, Texas... 6-1, 205 pounds, 4.45 sec. 40
Martin Nance, WR, Miami-Ohio... 6-5, 216 pounds, 4.45 sec. 40...
Max-Jean Gilles, OG, Georgia... 6-4, 340 pounds, 5.25 sec. 40...
Mike DeGory, C, Florida... 6-5, 316 pounds, 5.25 sec. 40...
Bobby Carpenter, OLB, Ohio State... 6-3, 240 pounds, 4.55 sec. 40...
Elvis Dumerville, DE/OLB, Louisville... 6-1, 250 pounds, 4.6 sec. 40...

Gotta upgrade at FS, and I'd do so in free agency and in the draft... put a dynamic player in that slot, and this defense could get scary good, IMO... if the Boys did trade down some, Nance would be a solid addition at WR, or Gilles or DeGory would be quality additions to the interior of the OL...

THIRD ROUND:

Matt Bernstein, FB, Wisconsin... 6-1, 265 pounds, 4.7 sec. 40...
Jason Allen, FS/CB, Tennessee... 6-2, 200 pounds, 4.45 sec. 40...
Todd Watkins, WR, BYU... 6-3, 195 pounds, 4.35 sec. 40...
Thomas Howard, OLB, UTEP... 6-3, 240 pounds, 4.45 sec. 40...
Donnie McCleskey, CB/FS, Cal... 5-10, 195 pounds, 4.45 sec. 40...
Chijioke Oyenegeche, CB, Oklahoma... 6-1, 205 pounds, 4.35 sec. 40

The sheer number of interesting prospects in this round is one big reason why I'd contemplate trading down out of the first round, in the hopes of adding two players at this point... Bernstein seems to me to be a Parcells-type FB, he can run the ball and catch it too... Allen would have been a first rounder if he hadn't hurt his hip pretty bad this season, perhaps he could be this draft's Chris Canty... Watkins is the fastest of the blue-chip wideouts in this draft... Howard is blazing fast for a LB, I think of him as a bigger, more physical Dexter Coakley... he has a big-play rep...

FIFTH ROUND:

Ryan Cook, C/OT, New Mexico... 6-7, 340 pounds, 5.3 sec. 40...
Kwakou Robinson, DT, Virginia... 6-4, 325 pounds, 5.0 sec. 40...
Will Allen, OG/C Texas... 6-6, 310 pounds, 5.3 sec. 40...
Reed Doughty, S, Northern Colorado... 6-1, 210 pounds, 4.5 sec. 40

If the Boys want to get bigger at center, Cook is the way to go... Allen would also make a nice backup, with his ability to play center and guard... Robinson has experience working in a Parcells-type defense under Al Groh at Virginia, though he's not really a classic NT... injuries have kept him from reaching his potential in college... Doughty is leading the nation in tackles the last I checked, averaging right at 15 a game... he's had over 400 tackles in his career, and has some cover skills, racking up 12 ints thus far in his college career... he's one of my Super Sleeper Specials...

SIXTH ROUND:

Barrick Nealy, QB, Texas State... 6-4, 230 pounds, 4.75 sec. 40...
William Winston, OT, Texas... 6-7, 350 pounds, 5.35 sec. 40...
Zac Tubbs, OT, Arkansas... 6-6, 350 pounds, 5.35 sec. 40...

I strongly believe that the best value to be found in the late rounds of any draft is to be found on the offensive line... but Nealy is a really intriguing QB prospect on the I-AA level, leading Texas State to a 7-2 record this season (including a competitive, 44-31 loss to Texas A&M at A&M)...

SEVENTH ROUND:

Toby Ziegler, WR, Northwestern St. (La.)... 6-1, 195, 4.4 sec. 40...
Jerad Estes, RB, Midwestern State... 6-1, 210 pounds, 4.4 sec. 40...
Patrick Cobbs, RB, North Texas... 5-9, 200 pounds, 4.5 sec. 40...
Jose Garcia, OG, UTEP... 6-2, 316 pounds, 5.3 sec. 40...

My draft to this point hasn't really paid a lot of attention to the offensive skill positions, hence the choices here... these picks have a nice "local" flavor to them, too, 3 players from Texas, 1 from Louisiana...

So, if things shook out more or less the way I see them in this analysis, here's what I'd do:

2a) (trade down): Michael Huff, FS, Texas...
2b) Martin Nance, WR, Miami-Ohio...
3a) Matt Bernstein, FB, Wisconsin...
3b) Thomas Howard, OLB, UTEP...
5) Ryan Cook, C/OT, New Mexico...
6) Barrick Nealy, QB, Texas State...
7) Jose Garcia, OG, UTEP...

Hmmm, I just recognized that I have the Boys drafting 2 Miners here... yeah, I'm a little biased... LOL...

I believe this draft addresses a lot of holes on the roster, and I believe the players recommended are currently rated by the "experts" about where I have them listed... of course, what the Boys do in free agency will have some impact on their draft decisions, but at this early date, I could live with this mock...
 

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silverbear said:
So, if things shook out more or less the way I see them in this analysis, here's what I'd do:

2a) (trade down): Michael Huff, FS, Texas...
2b) Martin Nance, WR, Miami-Ohio...
3a) Matt Bernstein, FB, Wisconsin...
3b) Thomas Howard, OLB, UTEP...
5) Ryan Cook, C/OT, New Mexico...
6) Barrick Nealy, QB, Texas State...
7) Jose Garcia, OG, UTEP...
Sold. I'll take this right now. Be hard for me to pass up Rod Wright, Bobby Carpenter, and Todd Watkins on Day 1 if your projections turn out correct.

Add Will Demps from B-more in FA and I'd be giddy.
 

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Hostile said:
Sold. I'll take this right now. Be hard for me to pass up Rod Wright, Bobby Carpenter, and Todd Watkins on Day 1 if your projections turn out correct.

Add Will Demps from B-more in FA and I'd be giddy.

Aw, a half a beer makes you giddy... :D
 

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Hostile said:
Sold. I'll take this right now. Be hard for me to pass up Rod Wright, Bobby Carpenter, and Todd Watkins on Day 1 if your projections turn out correct.

Add Will Demps from B-more in FA and I'd be giddy.

I agree...I think Watkins stock will rise at the combines big time. 6'3/190 and runs 4.40...with great hands. I've seen BYU play twice this year and he's impressed big time.

Carpenter...if he's there how does BP pass??? Not sure he could do it...

I also like TE/Long snapper Troy Bienemann...a better TE then Robinson was as a 4th TE and we need that LS.

Let me add Will Blackmon to this list too as a big fast CB/WR/Special teams animal. Could serve as LCB in nickle Glenn role (T-new is in slot)...plays WR...could be 5th WR. I understand he is incredible in the return game...could be a late 2nd to late 3rd round player.
 

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I agree...I think Watkins stock will rise at the combines big time. 6'3/190 and runs 4.40...with great hands. I've seen BYU play twice this year and he's impressed big time.

Carpenter...if he's there how does BP pass??? Not sure he could do it...

I also like TE/Long snapper Troy Bienemann...a better TE then Robinson was as a 4th TE and we need that LS.

Let me add Will Blackmon to this list too as a big fast CB/WR/Special teams animal. Could serve as LCB in nickle Glenn role (T-new is in slot)...plays WR...could be 5th WR. I understand he is incredible in the return game...could be a late 2nd to late 3rd round player.

I kind of like Baskett out of UNM. I think he could be a nice player in the NFL.
 

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AsthmaField said:
Who does Watkins play for Nors? I know nothing about him... I'm all for getting a good FS though.
Look no further than Michael Huff, FS, Texas..... :cool:
 

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Nors said:
My first stab -

Trade players / future picks to garner 2nd #1.....
Assume we have all picks later rounds (some traded etc)

1a) Ngata NT Fergi backup in 2006
1B) Pat Watkins - S 6-4 205 4.5
2) I'm sold - Klopfenstein TE 6-5+ 245 4.59
3) Jonathan Orr WR - 6-1 193 4.31 SLEEPER
4) Dontrell my man Moore RB - STEAL of draft
5) J Lewis DT - 6-1 310 DT depth
6) M Lawson DE/OLB 6-5 230 4.7 TWEENER
7) Ricky Santos!!!! RS sophomore :) QB/RB UNH rewriting 1 -AA record books.... Next crayton
Although I would love to get Manny Lawson, I doubt he last past the 3rd round if that.
 

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Cbz40 said:
Well!!!!I would like to have Huff........I'm first on that bandwagon.
I've been on the bandwagon since Huff was a junior..... :D
 

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bsheeern said:
Although I would love to get Manny Lawson, I doubt he last past the 3rd round if that.


I think a lot depends on what he weighs by end of season. I really like Lawson and if he checks in at 250 or so, he's gone in the late first, early second IMO. If he comes in at 235 or so, then I think he will be there in the third.
 

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bsheeern said:
Although I would love to get Manny Lawson, I doubt he last past the 3rd round if that.
Manny may end up going in the first with a good combine.
 

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I love the idea of trading out of the first for a second and a third.

I think Bobby Carpenter and Dumervil would both be tough for Parcells to pass up.
 
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