Eagles are resting their starters Sunday against the Giants

[Thomas82]

Good hopefully it hurts the eagles and prevents the Giants from getting a qb. A win win for us.

I wouldn't be mad at all if it worked out that way.

 

[GINeric]

Good.

It would be gross to see Barkley break the record with the help of an extra game.

Well Dickerson broke the record with the help of extra games when OJ Simpson held the record.... so was it gross when Dickerson broke it?

 

[GINeric]

Shouldn't this be on the Eagles board? Oh wait...

Well a few of their undercover fans are here posing as Cowboys fans. Here's a hint.... they are the low football IQ posters who start most of the negative Dak threads and also other negative Cowboys threads.

They also were the cowards who hid from the board like the *****es they really are during the weeks Cowboys won games and only came out during the weeks we loss to post.

The biggest two undercover rival fans pretending to be Cowboys fans, are very well known around here. Just look at their posting history. The lil weak cowards NEVER posted anything positive about the Cowboys after wins throughout the last few years.

 

[Swagger]

Just like Andy Reid resting his starters. Those phonies in KC will never win anything with that attitude

Is there an argument that the Chiefs would not want to see the Bengals in the play offs so it's kind of a win win for them to rest their starters given they can rely on excellent coaching to get those guys up to speed the following week (like the Eagles will also) and unlike the Cowboys under Garrett?

 

[DZSierra]

If they don't win the Super Bowl, this decision will be hanging over their heads forever.

For that reason alone, I thought they would at least try for the first half.

The reality is anyone can become injured in ANY game.

What's ironic IMO is that Barkely helped them get to this point with helping win games that the last game became irrelevant, where they don't have to play their staters.

That said, I never played college football let alone pro football, so that extra full week of rest could work wonders. However, ANY team can lay an egg when they're supposed to win AFTER they've had an extra week of rest.

I understand that a football team is not a democracy, but there is a part of me that thinks that having a vote by the starters or at least having private conversations with the starters in your office would help determine if you let the kid at least try for the first half.

To ED's record set in 1984, in his defense, he got it in week 15. I did have to look it up, even though he beat OJ's record in 1984, he also ran for 98 yards in game 16 against the San Francisco 49'ers. Considering San Fran finished with a 15-1 record and the Rams finished with a 10-6 record, one could argue why did ED have to play as it looks no different than Barley's situation now (if anyone actually remembers, please correct me). Rams lost their fist round playoff game to the Giants like 13-10

Honestly, the ONLY reason why I would want to see Barkley beat Eric Dickersons record is after reading up on all what Eric Dickerson has said about his record, he sounds like a big crybaby because a guy has the chance to beat it.

 

[Legendz82]

Good call. Even if Saquon broke the record, doing it in 17 games isn't as impressive.

I am torn on this. I agree with you until I heard that he has 34 less carries than Dickerson. That kinda made flip flop a bit.

 

[Thomas82]

For that reason alone, I thought they would at least try for the first half.

The reality is anyone can become injured in ANY game.

What's ironic IMO is that Barkely helped them get to this point with helping win games that the last game became irrelevant, where they don't have to play their staters.

That said, I never played college football let alone pro football, so that extra full week of rest could work wonders. However, ANY team can lay an egg when they're supposed to win AFTER they've had an extra week of rest.

I understand that a football team is not a democracy, but there is a part of me that thinks that having a vote by the starters or at least having private conversations with the starters in your office would help determine if you let the kid at least try for the first half.

To ED's record set in 1984, in his defense, he got it in week 15. I did have to look it up, even though he beat OJ's record in 1984, he also ran for 98 yards in game 16 against the San Francisco 49'ers. Considering San Fran finished with a 15-1 record and the Rams finished with a 10-6 record, one could argue why did ED have to play as it looks no different than Barley's situation now (if anyone actually remembers, please correct me). Rams lost their fist round playoff game to the Giants like 13-10

Honestly, the ONLY reason why I would want to see Barkley beat Eric Dickersons record is after reading up on all what Eric Dickerson has said about his record, he sounds like a big crybaby because a guy has the chance to beat it.

I agree with every word you said, which brings me to my next point:

Another reason for the starters getting reps against the Giants is that it would help them stay sharp. Also, the team could feed off of the record chase and possibly ride that momentum all the way to the Super Bowl. Not allowing Saquon Barkley to even try for the record is criminal. These are the same feelings I had when Zeke was threatening to break the rookie rushing record.

 

[DZSierra]

Not allowing Saquon Barkley to even try for the record is criminal. These are the same feelings I had when Zeke was threatening to break the rookie rushing record.

Agreed.

Ironically enough, listening to Eric Dickerson crying over Barkley has 17 games (when he doesn't make a big deal about that fact that he had two more games than OJ and he added 98 yards in the last season game), Dickerson also made a big deal about how no one would break his rookie best of 1,808 yards.

If Barkley doesn't try this last game, the thing learned about Eric Dickerson is one of two things...

1 - He's a ****** bag.
2 - He's a guy not smart enough to at least come across in the public as a nice guy per public opinion to say the right things and complaining about Barkley having 17 games to break his record.

I will give Barkley credit. He is towing the company line and comes across as a team player when it's hard to believe he wouldn't at least want a shot at the record in the first half to see how it goes.

I remember seeing a clip when they played the giants this year and he had 170 yards with a good portion of the 4th quarter to go. The coach asked him if he wanted to play more because he was getting near a record of some sort and Barkley said to let the other guys get some practice in or along those lines.

From what I've read about Barkley when he played with the giants, he came across as a team player and was a fan favorite, and I can see why.

Knowing the Eagles fans, if Barkley doesn't touch the ball against the Giants, I give it a 50/50 chance there is a riot in the stadium lmao

 

[SuperBowlz]

I see why they did it, but don't like it at all. The kid has a chance to break an all-time record. I would've agreed with playing the starters half the game especially Hurts. Barkley would have had his 100 yards by halftime and then pull him out. The Eagles rested a lot of their starters last year and lost in the first round, and I've seen it happen all too many times. I don't think it gives you an advantage at all. I don't see them getting to the Super Bowl. They can potentially lose in the first round. Let the kid finish the season and get his reward for a rare performance.

It is tough decision for a bunch of reasons like the rushing record, Jalen Hurts not playing for a month til the playoffs start. Yet on the other hand the Eagles haven't had a bye for 12 weeks because of their early bye. I just think you have to sit them because if Hurts, AJ, Saquon or possibly Smith gets hurt they're in BIG trouble. Tough call to make.

 

[SuperBowlz]

Agreed.

Ironically enough, listening to Eric Dickerson crying over Barkley has 17 games (when he doesn't make a big deal about that fact that he had two more games than OJ and he added 98 yards in the last season game), Dickerson also made a big deal about how no one would break his rookie best of 1,808 yards.

If Barkley doesn't try this last game, the thing learned about Eric Dickerson is one of two things...

1 - He's a ****** bag.
2 - He's a guy not smart enough to at least come across in the public as a nice guy per public opinion to say the right things and complaining about Barkley having 17 games to break his record.

I will give Barkley credit. He is towing the company line and comes across as a team player when it's hard to believe he wouldn't at least want a shot at the record in the first half to see how it goes.

I remember seeing a clip when they played the giants this year and he had 170 yards with a good portion of the 4th quarter to go. The coach asked him if he wanted to play more because he was getting near a record of some sort and Barkley said to let the other guys get some practice in or along those lines.

From what I've read about Barkley when he played with the giants, he came across as a team player and was a fan favorite, and I can see why.

Knowing the Eagles fans, if Barkley doesn't touch the ball against the Giants, I give it a 50/50 chance there is a riot in the stadium lmao

Dickerson had a bad attitude before his NFL days and it's carried on til today but... he was my favorite player to watch. That tall stance with the speed. It was just an elegant run style that we don't see anymore because they teach them to run low now. Barry was pretty dang fun to watch too.

 

[SuperBowlz]

I did not know that about Dickerson thank you . People think it’s harder today because because they split the running duties. If he gets it, he deserves it in my opinion.

So refreshing to see a poster be open to opinions of others and not just clinging to their point because of ego.

 

[DZSierra]

Yet on the other hand the Eagles haven't had a bye for 12 weeks because of their early bye. I just think you have to sit them because if Hurts, AJ, Saquon or possibly Smith gets hurt they're in BIG trouble.

I didn't realize this, and adds to using a little more common sense over what you'd like to do.

 

[Thomas82]

Agreed.

Ironically enough, listening to Eric Dickerson crying over Barkley has 17 games (when he doesn't make a big deal about that fact that he had two more games than OJ and he added 98 yards in the last season game), Dickerson also made a big deal about how no one would break his rookie best of 1,808 yards.

If Barkley doesn't try this last game, the thing learned about Eric Dickerson is one of two things...

1 - He's a ****** bag.
2 - He's a guy not smart enough to at least come across in the public as a nice guy per public opinion to say the right things and complaining about Barkley having 17 games to break his record.

I will give Barkley credit. He is towing the company line and comes across as a team player when it's hard to believe he wouldn't at least want a shot at the record in the first half to see how it goes.

I remember seeing a clip when they played the giants this year and he had 170 yards with a good portion of the 4th quarter to go. The coach asked him if he wanted to play more because he was getting near a record of some sort and Barkley said to let the other guys get some practice in or along those lines.

From what I've read about Barkley when he played with the giants, he came across as a team player and was a fan favorite, and I can see why.

Knowing the Eagles fans, if Barkley doesn't touch the ball against the Giants, I give it a 50/50 chance there is a riot in the stadium lmao

I agree with everything you said about Eric Dickerson, which is why I would like to see all 3 of his major records broken eventually. The 3rd record I'm talking about is the single-game plyoff record of 248 yards that he set against the Wild Card round in 1985.

 

[EPL0c0]

This is the smart thing to do.

No sense risking injury. The team comes first. Even with a major record/milestone within reach... TEAM comes first.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

Good.

It would be gross to see Barkley break the record with the help of an extra game.

Why?

Eric Dickerson got his record using 16 games in a season to break OJ Simpsons record that was based on a 14 game season some years earlier.

in fact, Walter Payton, Jim Brown, and especially OJ Simpson all had seasons where they had more rushing yards per game than Eric Dickerson had in his record year, but just had 2 fewer games in their season. Dickerson is only 4th all time for yds per game in a single season.

If Barkley woulda gotten it, he would have deserved the new record as much as Dickerson did.

 

[Blue&Silver]

Barkley has been mostly a disappointment b/c of injury. Heck, if the Giants thought he was capable of the season he just had, they would have let him leave.

Dickerson has a gold jacket, and his career blows Barkleys away. AND, he ran in a tougher defensive era. So, maybe you need to lower that bar for being impressed? lol

Barkley had an ACL 1 year. Couldn't find anything about a neck injury? To this point Dickerson had over 1000 carries more than Barkley. Dickerson's early career was fairly impressive, but I never saw them. What was impressive about Dickerson was the monstrous amount of carries he got, and as far as I know can still walk. He had over 400 in one year. That's probably why he didn't have a very good 2nd half of his career.

Somebody that's good with math, or has time would tell you Barkley would have crushed Dickerson's 2100 record given the same amount of carries. Barkleys biggest problem was the team he was drafted on. He gets picked up by a team with a good line and goes nuts. Barkley probably will never play as long as Dickerson, but if he did statistically speaking from what we seen he would have better career numbers Dickerson.

As KingCorcoran pointed the game is very different now. Rules favor the passing game.

I didn't even watch football in the lower 80s. That's when Dickerson was good. He rode his early reputation with the Colts and he wasn't that impressive.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Barkley had an ACL 1 year. Couldn't find anything about a neck injury? To this point Dickerson had over 1000 carries more than Barkley. Dickerson's early career was fairly impressive, but I never saw them. What was impressive about Dickerson was the monstrous amount of carries he got, and as far as I know can still walk. He had over 400 in one year. That's probably why he didn't have a very good 2nd half of his career.

Somebody that's good with math, or has time would tell you Barkley would have crushed Dickerson's 2100 record given the same amount of carries. Barkleys biggest problem was the team he was drafted on. He gets picked up by a team with a good line and goes nuts. Barkley probably will never play as long as Dickerson, but if he did statistically speaking from what we seen he would have better career numbers Dickerson.

As KingCorcoran pointed the game is very different now. Rules favor the passing game.

I didn't even watch football in the lower 80s. That's when Dickerson was good. He rode his early reputation with the Colts and he wasn't that impressive.

Yeah, Dickerson really sucked in 1988 for the colts when he ran for 1600 yards and 14 TDs.

NFL history is littered with rbs like Barkley who never reached their full statistical potential due to injury. It was great seeing Barkley finally break through, but let's not confuse him with a guy who has a gold jacket and did it in an era when it was harder to pile up yards.

 

[Blackrain]

I watched all three players OJ Simpson Dickerson and Barclay.

OJ Simpson was the most dominant of the three played in Buffalo with no team around him he was the whole team.

He got 2,000 yards in two less games and and only 330 attempts.

Times and circumstances change and saquon Barkley should be allowed to fulfill his quest and see how many yards he can get.
I think it's doing the NFL and fans a complete disservice in not letting him play and see what he is capable of achieving no matter how many games are in the season it can be debated and bench raced later.

You will never be able to compare the three on games played because it will all be different but they can be compared on the amount of attempts they had to achieve the yardage they got.

OJ ran for 140 yd a game in a Time when defenses were completely geared to stop the run and him especially.
If you didn't watch him play you truly can't appreciate the dominance he had and how other teams feared him.
Listening to Howard cosell describe him and what was about to happen made it even more exciting.

All that said let Barkley do what he does and let the chips fall where they may fans deserve to see how this plays out

 

[DZSierra]

fans deserve to see how this plays out

If you're a Dallas cowboy fan, I sincerely don't understand how you can even rationalize that statement.

 

[Blackrain]

If you're a Dallas cowboy fan, I sincerely don't understand how you can even rationalize that statement.

Very easily I'm a football fan and what saquon Barkley does with the single season rushing record does not affect the Cowboys in any negative way.
Not being active in free agency and taking premier players like saquon Barkley and Derrick Henry is what negatively affects the Cowboys and our owner general manager is responsible for that not me.
I've been following the Cowboys passionately since the late sixties
But I can appreciate good football being played by anyone how long have you been a cowboy fan.