Eagles fan's question: Are Cowboys fan afraid of the Eagles?

[K-Mart]

I can't believe there are so many here that give respect and/or think this years Eagles team might compete...I can only imagine a few years ago when the guys/ladies on their eagles boards/chat rooms were saying about the Cowboys....I bet they were kicking us when we were down and saying we had no chance to beat their Eagles team or anyone else for that matter....For those of you that do not remember....We SWEPT them last year... as did everyone else in the East....Training Camp is full of optimism...The birds did nothing that impressed me except have a decent draft that probably won't help them for years to come....HERE IS TO ANOTHER SWEEP OF THE EAGLES...AM I SCARED.....HELL NO!

 

[notherbob]

My guess is that the NFC-E teams beat each other up this year and the one with the best quality depth is going to be the one to make it into the playoffs. There may be only one team from the division to go to the playoffs this year unless two teams get hot.

Reid builds big strong lines to anchor his teams and they are good. They pass the ball so much they don't need much of a running game to win. Still, championship teams win because they can run the ball and the Eagles have the worst running game in the East. Typically, an Oline is either good at run blocking or pass blocking, seldom both.

Darrell Royal once said "Only three things can happen when you throw the ball and two of them are bad."

Defense and a strong running game win championships. Ya gotta be able to run the ball; being able to pass is a nice luxury.
If you can run when you want to and pass when you have to and stop them once more than they stop you, you gonna win games.

 

[Ren]

No, not even a little

 

[superpunk]

Are you an Eagles fan?

 

[AmishCowboy]

Most Eagle fans on WIP seem to think that they are a 9-7 team. I think the Eagles will still be decent, they have a great regular season QB and a pretty good Defense and Kicking game, However the days of them winning the division and going to NFC Championship games are over.

 

[Prossman]

of returning to there dominance of the east. 1st they were one strong team in a very weak division. This division is arguably the toughest in the NFL & the eagles are the weakest team in it. The only thing the eagles have is McNabb, who will return to a average 15-20 td pass guy now that Owens is gone. The eagles running game is average at best, & the wide reciever core strikes fear in No one.
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If you want to hang the eagles drop off on McNabb being hurt, fine but I'm not buying it. The defenses in the Nfc east are loaded , everyone but the eagles has been adding major talent on both sides of the ball. It will be brutal.
McNabb got what he wanted, to be the lone star on the team, but the east It will take allot more than that to survive. The funny thing is the NFL Media is already makeing excuses for him. "Coming off a injury.....blah blah blah.
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I do find eagle fans arrogance amuseing. Do we fear the eagles??!!! For what?
What have you done to improve your team , outside of getting rid of T O? Now that owens is gone, everything will be ok.....right. I do believe we swept you last year, & this cowboy team is Far better than we were a year ago. Be prepared to take butt whoppins from the cowboys for the next 5-6 years. You ride is over, ending with 1 superbowl loss ( whats take choking sound in the back ground,LOL) . Stand back & take notes of How to make it to & actually WIN a superbowl! Prossman

 

[notherbob]

Westbrook is a good back, but he's not the only one the Eagles have, McNabb is their best running back because by the time he starts running, everything has been cleared out.

 

[Stash]

This post is hilarious!

If anyone is "afraid", it's the Eagles and their fans.

And they should be.

They had a 4 year window to win a championship and they didn't get the job done.

Their team collapsed into a 6-10 debacle last season.

They just lost the league's best receiver and did nothing to replace him.

The rest of their division has passed them by.

And their mosted "hated rivals" are now in position to win the championship that they couldn't - along with the player they hate more than any other.

Sounds like a "nightmare scenario" to me.

If anybody's "afraid", it's the Eagles and their fans......

:iggles:

 

[TheGoat73]

i haven't thought about the eagles one way or the other this offseason, that should answer your question.

 

[bert]

I'm not trying to be a hater, im just asking an honest question.. It seems like whenever the Eagles are brought up you get angry loud responses from any NFC East teams fans.. Some are respectful and realistic, others all they can is they suck and they'll lose the divison. Honestly though, if you know football, and you've been keeping track of what the Eagles have done in the offseason, how they've looked in training camp, in the preseason.. You have to be a little bit worried that it's going to be "there divison" again.. heres some reasons why i think so...

1. A healthy Mcnabb means trouble for the nfc east (I'm not even going any further on that one cause you all have experinced what he can do firsthand)

2. The defense looks a lot like the defense that won back to back to back to back nfc east titles (3 or 4 i cant remember) defensive line is loaded with big physical guys, pro bowl secondary is healthy, linebacking core is adequate but not great (eagles never had a great linebacking core anyway)

3. The receivers- everybody keeps saying the Eagles receivers suck, sorry to say your wrong, nobody left is exactly TO, but these kids can play. Reggie Brown is a good receiver, and you'll see that this year. Also I can't say enough about Hank Baskett, they traded for him from Minnesota and all he's done is basically shock every single person in the Eagles system, outplaying every receiver by far and people are quietly talking about this kid as the next Chris Chambers or better, he already took over Pinkstons starting spot most likely (he started camp as something like the 5th receiver and shot all the way up the depth chart. Also, Westbrook, a good running back, a great receiver, LJ Smith, a very good Tight End..

4. The offensive line of the Eagles is better than anyones in the divison, I personally think they have the best offensive and defensive line in the entire divison, and Im a firm believer that whoever controls the line, controls the game...

So am I crazy? or should the Cowboys be really worried right now? (No hater responses wanted, real football fans who know what the **** there talking about)

Afraid of the EAGLES? Not even!!! Respectful of them? Sure as I am of any other team.

1.) A healthy McNabb is a good thing for Philly & could mean a bad day for their opponents, but even when healthy he can be inconsistent as all QB's can. Just because he is healthy does not mean your NFC East title bound.

2.)That defense is not what it used to be IMO. The CB's are overrated & I think your safeties are the strongest part of the secondary. Philly's defense ranked 23rd OVR in the NFL last season & were inconsistent most of the year. Don't break out the injury excuse either. Dallas lost 3 of their 4 starting LB's along with other various injuries during the year & finished with the 10th ranked OVR defense in the league. To say that defense looks like the one that won back to back to back to back NFC East titles is ridiculous. Did you watch them play last year?

3.) Philly's receivers are average at best thus far. Brown has talent but I need to see a full season of above average play from him to say he has arrived. As for Hank Baskett & his comparisons to Chambers, so what, since when do comparisons mean you can play in this league. For him to shoot up the Philly depth chart in the training camp just proves that their receivers are average. Until be plays an actual meaningful game in the NFL he is an undrafted rookie free agent receiver who has a shot to be something special but he has not done anything in the NFL to date. Westbrook is an average RB when it comes to rushing with the football. As a receiver the guy is a force to not be taken lightly. Receiving he is impressive but he does not scare me as a rusher & is injury prone.

4.) As much as it pains me to say it I think Washington has the best Offensive line in the division. The Giants have the best defensive line in the NFC East. If you watched any NFL games last year involving the NFC East you would realize that. Maybe I'm wrong but you seem to be basing most of your assessments on the Eagles glory years & the potential of some unproven players rather then actual live NFL play.

I don't think the Cowboys need to be anymore worried about the Eagles then they are about any of their other opponents this year. Should Dallas take the Eagles lightly? Of course not, nor should the Eagles take the Cowboys lightly. IMO the NFC East is one of the toughest divisions in the NFL this year.

 

[DallasTx_EaglesFan]

Although we need more depth at RB & maybe WR, we still have the best QB in the division and our front-four & OL will be much better then people think.

 

[FLcowboy]

Philly fans seem to keep forgetting, or not be willing to admit, that Dallas's defense has been built to neutralize McNabb.
A 3-4 with speedy LBers who can catch McNabb if they don't confuse him into typical poor throws at critical times.
Philly's d-line could be good but I am not buying until I see it consistently in regular season games.
Westbrook has always scared me but he can't stay healthy.
The WRs are very weak.
Don't get all excited because they won some preseason games against poor teams evaluating their own players.
This ain't 2001 anymore. The NFC East has passed the Eagles by.

The Eagles really haven't improved their skill positions the last four years. Yes, their D and O lines are better perhaps, but as others have said, the linebackers and D-backs are no better, and perhaps worse. And the running backs? Well, lt's hope they can catch a lot of passes underneath the linebackers.

And what has the Eagles done to improve Reid's and McNabb's decision making process. I'm not saying it hasn't been improved, but it's not public knowledge, whereas, it is public knowledge that the two have suffered letdowns in the past.

 

[Bubba Sparks]

RESPONSE TO YOUR 4 QUESTIONS
1. McNabb is a "B" rated in Pocket Passing Accuracy and "A" in mobility. Dallas DE's and OLB's are big & quick and will contain McNabb and keep him in the pocket where is he only mediocre. Advantage Cowboys:

2. Push

3. Brown (B) and Westbrook (A) are your only real options. TO - Glenn - Whitten are all (A) options. Crayton (B) cancels out Brown. Watch for 17 Hurd to possibly slide into the 3rd spot over Crayton this year. He is having a (A) camp and is a terrific suprise. Advantage Cowboys.

4. You cannot come out of last season with your record and claim best O line in NFC East. Hyperbole at best. Tap the brakes and we'll see when we see. Push

MY TWO QUESTIONS
1. Bledsoe (A) Accurate Passer - (C) Mobile QB gets 4 seconds in the pocket. TO - Glenn - Whitten (A's) and Fasano (B+) all on the field. You putting 2 DB on TO? There are 2 terrific (A) blockiing TE's in the game? You only putting 7 in the box? This one situation will either put TO / Glenn in single coverage and expose your secondary, or you will be leaving the running game wide open.

2. Dallas 3-4. The only weak spot on this team is our Safety Davis is in on deep coverage. (Look for #25 FSU rookie Watkins to come in on 3 & long situations.) Westbrook out ofthe backfield will be covered by big, quick OLB or DE's. Dallas is free to cover Philly Rec's in single coverage therefore committing another DB into the box. Realistically, what is Philly's game plan? Run with the Box full or pass with heavy pressure into a (C+) overall set of recievers?

BOTTOM LINE: Dallas only area of weakness is backup QB and Kick off. Questions yet to be answered are ROT. Philly is not the concern for Dallas in '06 NFC Eaat. It will be Skins wide open offense and the Giants Defense.

 

[ringmaster]

Afraid of the EAGLES? Not even!!! Respectful of them? Sure as I am of any other team.

1.) A healthy McNabb is a good thing for Philly & could mean a bad day for their opponents, but even when healthy he can be inconsistent as all QB's can. Just because he is healthy does not mean your NFC East title bound.

2.)That defense is not what it used to be IMO. The CB's are overrated & I think your safeties are the strongest part of the secondary. Philly's defense ranked 23rd OVR in the NFL last season & were inconsistent most of the year. Don't break out the injury excuse either. Dallas lost 3 of their 4 starting LB's along with other various injuries during the year & finished with the 10th ranked OVR defense in the league. To say that defense looks like the one that won back to back to back to back NFC East titles is ridiculous. Did you watch them play last year?

3.) Philly's receivers are average at best thus far. Brown has talent but I need to see a full season of above average play from him to say he has arrived. As for Hank Baskett & his comparisons to Chambers, so what, since when do comparisons mean you can play in this league. For him to shoot up the Philly depth chart in the training camp just proves that their receivers are average. Until be plays an actual meaningful game in the NFL he is an undrafted rookie free agent receiver who has a shot to be something special but he has not done anything in the NFL to date. Westbrook is an average RB when it comes to rushing with the football. As a receiver the guy is a force to not be taken lightly. Receiving he is impressive but he does not scare me as a rusher & is injury prone.

4.) As much as it pains me to say it I think Washington has the best Offensive line in the division. The Giants have the best defensive line in the NFC East. If you watched any NFL games last year involving the NFC East you would realize that. Maybe I'm wrong but you seem to be basing most of your assessments on the Eagles glory years & the potential of some unproven players rather then actual live NFL play.

I don't think the Cowboys need to be anymore worried about the Eagles then they are about any of their other opponents this year. Should Dallas take the Eagles lightly? Of course not, nor should the Eagles take the Cowboys lightly. IMO the NFC East is one of the toughest divisions in the NFL this year.

To be honest with you, I'm not worried about neither team: Commanders, Giants, or the Eagles because they just like the Cowboys, have question marks somewhere.

All of the NFC East teams should be respected but fearing them no way because no team is impervious to losing.

 

[ravidubey]

I would question Philly's depth. I do not think that it is there.

They have the deepest DL and OL in the conference.

 

[DallasTx_EaglesFan]

Philly fans aren't gonna buy into Dallas' O-line until it's proven they've improved. With the exception of last year, I'm not sure Dallas has gotten Mcnabb figured out yet, and even then, you can't dismiss the fact the team played poorly because of injuries. I do agree we have the worst WR's in the league, but history shows we've been dominant without them. Lastly, I'm just not sold on Bledsoe and his ability to carry this team all year either.

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

im not scared at all, its philly who should be scared. they didnt win one game against the NFCE last season

 

[superpunk]

Philly fans aren't gonna buy into Dallas' O-line until it's proven they've improved.

See, this concept works so many ways, though.

Let's reverse it for a second.

Dallas fans aren't going to believe Reid can call a legitimate balanced game until he proves it.

Dallas fans aren't going to believe that Dline is improved until it proves it.

Dallas fans aren't going to believe that woeful trio of LBs are worth anything until they prove it.

Dallas fans aren't going to believe McNabb isn't a cowardly choker until....well, there's almost nothing he can do to dispel that now - it's basically fact.

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

Although we need more depth at RB & maybe WR, we still have the best QB in the division and our front-four & OL will be much better then people think.

I've tried to tell them DTEF but they never listen to me. BTW ...Welcome!

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

See, this concept works so many ways, though.

Let's reverse it for a second.

Dallas fans aren't going to believe Reid can call a legitimate balanced game until he proves it.

Dallas fans aren't going to believe that Dline is improved until it proves it.

Dallas fans aren't going to believe that woeful trio of LBs are worth anything until they prove it.

Dallas fans aren't going to believe McNabb isn't a cowardly choker until....well, there's almost nothing he can do to dispel that now - it's basically fact.

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