Eric Winston Released by Chiefs

[montgod]

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Unfortunately, I would have to agree. With all the focus being on Spencer/Romo and how to reduce their salary hit, I don't see Winston being an option especially with highly priced Free in the fold.

Hopefully they will find solutions quickly, but with Jerry's mindset on the OL, I can't see him spending much in FA to fix the holes on the OL.

 

[supercowboy8]

@BryanBroaddus: “@beckybeck_86: @BryanBroaddus any chance cowboys go after Eric Winston?” About the money and how much he is willing to take. So, no.

Winston was making far less than free and his contract with KC was a good deal. We can cut Connor and or free and have the money. Money is not an issue you can always structure contracts and make moves to make the money work.

At 29 and several OTs in the market this offseason his asking price can't be any higher than it was last year.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Winston was making far less than free and his contract with KC was a good deal. We can cut Connor and or free and have the money. Money is not an issue you can always structure contracts and make moves to make the money work.

At 29 and several OTs in the market this offseason his asking price can't be any higher than it was last year.

The wildcard is what they think of Parnell.

While fans don't want to hear that, it is a variable that needs to be considered.

If they do not make an attempt to sign Winston, that will tell you everything you need to know on the subject.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Winston was making far less than free and his contract with KC was a good deal. We can cut Connor and or free and have the money. Money is not an issue you can always structure contracts and make moves to make the money work.

At 29 and several OTs in the market this offseason his asking price can't be any higher than it was last year.

That's not exactly true. I read on twitter that prior to his release, he was the highest paid RT and making more than Doug Free and this other guy whose name I forget.

So chances are he could probably command similar money at his next stop.

 

[TheRomoSexual]

That's not exactly true. I read on twitter that prior to his release, he was the highest paid RT and making more than Doug Free and this other guy whose name I forget.

So chances are he could probably command similar money at his next stop.

I'm not sure about this. Winston signed a 4 year, 22 mil contract, whereas Free signed a 4 years, 33 mil contract. I also think Free got more guaranteed, but I could be wrong about that.

 

[Bowdown27]

@LesBowen: Hearing the Eagles definitely have interest in OT Eric Winston

 

[Bowdown27]

I hope that lights a fire under Jerry seeing the eagles interest but I doubt it does

 

[Tass]

Rosenhaus is his agent? Oh, no...

 

[supercowboy8]

That's not exactly true. I read on twitter that prior to his release, he was the highest paid RT and making more than Doug Free and this other guy whose name I forget.

So chances are he could probably command similar money at his next stop.

Well the person who told you that is wrong.

Free is scheduled to make 7 million salary and count 10 million on the cap

Winston was scheduled to make 4.9 milion salary and a cap hit of 6.5 million
Also last year he was only a 2.5 million cap hit in the fiesta year of his deal.
We can di a similar contract. Cutting Connor saves 3 million

 

[WoodysGirl]

I'm not sure about this. Winston signed a 4 year, 22 mil contract, whereas Free signed a 4 years, 33 mil contract. I also think Free got more guaranteed, but I could be wrong about that.

Ok, I misinterpreted the original tweet I saw. It had him in the top 3, but I took it as he was #1 in that 3. Either way, this is what I found when I did a search for it:

Evan Silva ‏@evansilva
5 highest-paid RTs: 1. Doug Free (8M) 2. David Stewart (6.48M) 3. Eric Winston (5.5M) 4. Todd Herremans (5.42M) 5. Anthony Davis (5.3M).

All things being equal, you'd have to determine what kinda $$ you'd actually save by cutting Doug Free and signing a guy who will probalby want the $5m/per year.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

@LesBowen: Hearing the Eagles definitely have interest in OT Eric Winston

Of course.

The guy is a decent RT.

This stuff doesn't happen in a vacuum. The Cowboys have to compete for players and just because the team has a need doesn't mean they are going to be able to sign that player– assuming they even have an interest.

 

[conner01]

Cut Free, sign Winston and have him compete with Parnell?

would'nt be much competition. if you pay a guy 5 million or so you are gonna start him and next year you are gonna let parnell walk.
this is not about free, i think him being gone is a done deal. this is about parnell and whether or not you think he is a player. if you think he can never be a starter then sign winston and let him be the swing guy and walk after next year. but if you think he can be a starter i think you sign a vet short term and let the vet be the swing guy and parnell start.

 

[visionary]

would'nt be much competition. if you pay a guy 5 million or so you are gonna start him and next year you are gonna let parnell walk.
this is not about free, i think him being gone is a done deal. this is about parnell and whether or not you think he is a player. if you think he can never be a starter then sign winston and let him be the swing guy and walk after next year. but if you think he can be a starter i think you sign a vet short term and let the vet be the swing guy and parnell start.

this is not how we should be thinking IMO

our thought process should be:

1. how can we make the team better?
2. romo/ware/witten are likely at their current level of play for next 3 years at most. think about that for a second.

we should be turning over every stone to improve the team right now to compete right now

winston is not some 33 year old statue who wont be an option for the next 3-4 years at RT

if he checks out physically and asking price is reasonable, you do this deal yesterday over waiting for parnell to develop over the next 2 years

JMO

 

[DFWJC]

Not being condescending here....
but could someone please explain how we can make a legit offer to Winston without having the cap space in hand?

If we make cap friendly deals with Romo and Spencer, then we could pull it off. I guess we could just axe Conner outright to clear some room...not enough, but some.
But right now, from what I can see, we do not have the room.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

this is not how we should be thinking IMO

our thought process should be:

1. how can we make the team better?
2. romo/ware/witten are likely at their current level of play for next 3 years at most. think about that for a second.

we should be turning over every stone to improve the team right now to compete right now

winston is not some 33 year old statue who wont be an option for the next 3-4 years at RT

if he checks out physically and asking price is reasonable, you do this deal yesterday over waiting for parnell to develop over the next 2 years

JMO

What you say has a lot of merit.

I'm just not sure about his price being "reasonable" in combination with another team have much more cap space, like the Eagles being able to offer a better deal.

Again, this is a competitive situation and other teams have the advantage.

 

[visionary]

What you say has a lot of merit.

I'm just not sure about his price being "reasonable" in combination with another team have much more cap space, like the Eagles being able to offer a better deal.

Again, this is a competitive situation and other teams have the advantage.

agree with this MW

"reasonable" will always be relative
just depends on how much value we palce on the RT position

just saying, that on OL we (at least IMO) need to upgrade OG/OC and OT.
this may be a god send for us if we can get a starter at RT (for relatively cheap) then we can pick a OG/C in the draft and really be on our way to solodifying the OL

 

[conner01]

this is not how we should be thinking IMO

our thought process should be:

1. how can we make the team better?
2. romo/ware/witten are likely at their current level of play for next 3 years at most. think about that for a second.

we should be turning over every stone to improve the team right now to compete right now

winston is not some 33 year old statue who wont be an option for the next 3-4 years at RT

if he checks out physically and asking price is reasonable, you do this deal yesterday over waiting for parnell to develop over the next 2 years

JMO

i agree. but my point was to a poster saying he and parnell could compete. there would be no competition. you are not paying a guy 5 mil a year to be the swing tackle. thats not happening. and parnell will be a fa after next year so you could'nt sign him and have winston. can't have 3 tackles making big money. so it's about parnell. is he capable of being a player? if he is then you can't sign a long term deal with a vet. it's that simple
now i see so many ot's hitting the market this year that the option of signing one short term could be there. the market is flooded and a guy may sign a 1 or 2 year deal to hit the market again soon to try and get the big bucks. this is not a good year to be a free agent ot for sure.
parnell is not gonna be here 2 more years. this is the time to decide if he is a starter quality guy or not. either he starts or next year he walks and you wasted all the time you put into developing him.

 

[9darter]

Not being condescending here....
but could someone please explain how we can make a legit offer to Winston without having the cap space in hand?

If we make cap friendly deals with Romo and Spencer, then we could pull it off. I guess we could just axe Conner outright to clear some room...not enough, but some.
But right now, from what I can see, we do not have the room.

Haven't you heard that Stephen is laughing everytime someone is worried over the cap? They can do whatever they want, on any day. Salary cap problems simply do not exist.

Of course there is room to sign a quality player or two or three to make the OL better. Just like when Livings and Bernadeau were brought in. Oh, wait...

 

[Hoofbite]

The wildcard is what they think of Parnell.

While fans don't want to hear that, it is a variable that needs to be considered.

If they do not make an attempt to sign Winston, that will tell you everything you need to know on the subject.

I think that's a cop out, really.

What they've thought of OL in the past 5 years or so hasn't exactly been stellar.

I'm not sure why he was cut but this is a move that couldn't have been available at a better time.

Combo a guard in the mix and this OL could be entirely different.

 

[DFWJC]

Haven't you heard that Stephen is laughing everytime someone is worried over the cap? They can do whatever they want, on any day. Salary cap problems simply do not exist.

Of course there is room to sign a quality player or two or three to make the OL better. Just like when Livings and Bernadeau were brought in. Oh, wait...

Yep
Handling the cap has at least two moving parts--actual dollars and timing. That latter was what I was referring to here, the the former is a factor as well.