ESPN: DeMarcus Ware to have surgery

[CyberB0b]

It's obvious that Ware has not been a good player for the last two years. He was one of the most dominate defensive players in the league for many years and his play has dropped off considerably.

Agreed

I posted a week or so ago that I was okay with him not having the surgery when it came out he chose to not have it as long as he did not wait until close to training camp to "suddenly need surgery" which would keep him out of training camp and the preseason and then give him another season's long excuse of "recovery" as the reason he is not playing well then.

But then the media starts to discuss that there's a chance the Cowboys could cut Ware and he starts to think that he might be looking for another team next year (doubtful, but not certain either). Then suddenly he realizes that the 31 other teams may not be that interested in a player at his performance level over the last couple of years for anything other than a low-price incentive-laden contract. Amazingly, news comes out that he's getting surgery and he openly admits that he's been in severe pain because of the injury for over a year.

Don't you think his agent has been discussing this scenario with him over the course of the offseason, which started for Ware about 1.5 months ago? It's not like the media is going to dictate what the Cowboys decide to do with him.

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I'm honestly tired of players getting paid big contracts and not doing what they can to put themselves in a position to earn that money. I really like players like Austin, Romo, Ware, Spencer, etc. (they have not only been great players, but also great people), but they need to get back on the field especially by the start of training camp so they can get ready for the season and, more importantly, play at the level they are capable of for the whole season (16+ games).

It's been proven time and time again that when it comes to Cowboys players having a choice between surgery or rest, they tend to choose rest and we have been burned almost every time because of it. For most of us, rest is always the best option over surgery, but for NFL players who have short careers, their goal should be to get healthy long before the next season gets here so they can either earn the contract they currently have or get a big contract with another team that has faith in their ability to play at the same high level they have shown in the past.

It's not like OTAs start tomorrow. Him delaying the surgery a week isn't going to effect his playing time 7 months from now. For all you know, they were waiting for some swelling to go down before they decide to cut him open.

 

[IrishAnto]

I am just about ready to move on without him. He isn't interested in taking a pay cut... to hell with getting paid a ton the last two years and not giving the team much return on their investment.

Maybe I'm not being fair. Maybe I'm simply ready for a change.

I don't know, it just that as a fan, I'm kind of ready to let the older, high priced vets go and get some new blood on that Dallas defense. Draft heavy on defense, get a free agent or two over there, let Ware, Spencer, and Hatcher find a new home, and move on with new, hungry guys who are full of piss and vinegar.

I mean, the defense can't get any worse than 32nd anyway. Might as well be young and cheap and go from there.

It might not get any worst, but without any of Ware, Spencer and Hatcher coming back and playing well it’s not likely to get that much better next year either.

And by the time it does (if it ever does), we’ll probably have much bigger problems on offense.

 

[arglebargle]

Lots of people who slept at a Holiday Inn Express in this thread.

 

[rockj7]

Funny how it comes out that there's a 50/50 chance Ware gets cuts and suddenly, surgery is something he needs. Guess skipping training camp next season after delaying surgery until then doesn't look so appealing when he might be looking for another team.

I like Ware a lot, but this just wreaks of wrong. If he needed surgery, he should have already taken care of it so he would have longer to recover and also deal with any issues that could possibly pop up over it.

That was my exact thoughts Ratliff part 2

 

[cowboyvic]

This smells too much like Spencer and Ratliff last year. He's expensive, declining, unwilling to take a pay cut, injured and in need of surgery. If there wasn't a better time to move on...

Move on to what? they should have moved on from Romo. and use that money to try and build a great defense.MOVE ON TO WHAT?

 

[theSHOW]

trade bait? could we get a 7th?

 

[Alexander]

I thought we read last week where ware didn't need offseason surgery. It's getting hard to believe anything coming out of valley ranch.

Especially in regards to injuries. I would not be surprised if we read his entire arm is amputated.

 

[burmafrd]

I spit on those doubting deware.

 

[starfrombirth]

Well, this does wreak of the recent injury shenanigans at Valley Ranch, but in his defense a month or two resting away from football could very well have fixed it and it was worth it to find out. It didn't so he is having surgery with plenty of time to come back. Some of you are just looking for anything to whine about.

He said he's been dealing with it for 2 years so... If one complete offseason doesn't do it why would he even start to think it would help after another year of beating on it and playing with it?

 

[starfrombirth]

He should be able to go thru most of the offseason. might hold him out of the early OTAs

Nope... what will happen is he will have "unforseen complications" and be held out of OTA and the early minicamps. And because he had surgery Jerry will feel obligated to give him one more chance. He will practice for a couple of weeks and then take a couple off because of "swelling" He will then miraculously be ready for the 1st game of the season (isn't that when his salary is guaranteed?). And then the complications from his surgery will require him to have a 2nd surgery and be put on 1 of the injured reserve lists. I will gladly eat my words but watch if i'm not mostly correct.

 

[Nirvana]

It's another bet that Jerry will lose. Guarantee the guy is plagued with injuries again next year. He has a multiple body parts hurting according to him during his exit media session. If the elbow is fixed, something else will pop up. If you want to bring him back as a part-time player (since he takes several plays off now and does not practice much anymore), then he must take a pay cut.

2 years ago the Colts made a tough decision in cutting Peyton Manning. When is this franchise going to have some cajones and do the same. Idk what is preventing this franchise from making tough decisions with their over the hill players. We never want to get rid of them until they are in a wheelchair. Free, Ratliff, Ware, Miles, Romo....hanging on till the bitter end.

The plays you saw him "taking off" may have been caused by the elbow pain. And a lot of NFL players are hurting by the end of the season. The problem with cutting him is the 8 mill in dead money this season and the dead money amount (?) for next season. You aren't gaining much by cutting him vs. a restructure. The salary cap will be several million higher next year, and we'll be able to absorb the remainder of his contract money more easily.

Like I said I would love for Ware to take a pay cut, but what if he doesn't? That's a tough decision, and I agree to some degree on your views, but I'm more inclined to take a chance on this. I disagree that anybody can guarantee he is plagued with injuries.

One thing I can guarantee is that Rod Marinelli wants him on the team.

 

[starfrombirth]

Good lord. This guy has played with the injury for two years but fans are up in arms because he waited a whole two weeks after the a Super Bowl to get surgery....

Please take this time to get a grip.

He wasn't playing in the Super Bowl so what does that have to do with his timeline?

 

[starfrombirth]

Ware had this same mindset when he was getting 20 sacks a yr. You liked it then

He was getting 20 sacks a year... Duh!

 

[starfrombirth]

You have no idea what his doctors have been advising him to do and it is ignorant for you to speculate what his motives are.

Neither do you...

 

[starfrombirth]

The butthurt is strong in this thread.

A medical diagnosis, especially in the event of surgery, isn't diagnosed overnight. People are acting like this process occurs in a 48 hour window, like they run an MRI and then just slap him down on a table ready to operate akin to changing a muffler.

In this event i'm sure they ran nerve damage tests, saw how he reacted to anti-inflammatory's, and probably other various things that are important and most of us wouldn't understand. I'm also sure, as any other person would have done, he probably got a second opinion and went through the process again.

Regardless, excluding some type of medical mishap, he won't be missing any of training camp. This isn't an ACL, there's really nothing to "recover" from so as long as the doctor is competent he'll be fully recovered in 6-8 weeks.

It is for him. He has access to much better medical than the normal American. He can call Dr. James Andrews and have the best medical advice in the country with 48 hours.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

Lots of people who slept at a Holiday Inn Express in this thread.

Along with some people who slept through Ware's 2013 performance on their couch.

 

[Zordon]

The plays you saw him "taking off" may have been caused by the elbow pain. And a lot of NFL players are hurting by the end of the season. The problem with cutting him is the 8 mill in dead money this season and the dead money amount (?) for next season. You aren't gaining much by cutting him vs. a restructure. The salary cap will be several million higher next year, and we'll be able to absorb the remainder of his contract money more easily.

Like I said I would love for Ware to take a pay cut, but what if he doesn't? That's a tough decision, and I agree to some degree on your views, but I'm more inclined to take a chance on this. I disagree that anybody can guarantee he is plagued with injuries.

One thing I can guarantee is that Rod Marinelli wants him on the team.

He was taking plays off due to the quad injury. He took a few games off then when he came back, he was still pulling himself out of several plays due to the quad. Also, lets not forget the neck injury as well that has plagued him. The guys body is broken down. Something else is going to pop up next year.

 

[DABOYZ]

Good lord. This guy has played with the injury for two years but fans are up in arms because he waited a whole two weeks after the a Super Bowl to get surgery....

Please take this time to get a grip.

News flash Ware wasn't in the Super Bowl. So why wait until the Super Bowl is over? Unless of course there is some kind of post superbowl waiting period in his contract pertaining to surgeries. Like many have said its time for him to get healthy for free agency cause the free ride in Dallas is over.

 

[starfrombirth]

Move on to what? they should have moved on from Romo. and use that money to try and build a great defense.MOVE ON TO WHAT?

WTH are you talking about? That's an apples/oranges situation if there ever was one. Romo's play has only gotten better. He is and has been on a team who have not carried their share of the load ever: WR's who quit on their routes on multiple occasions, Olines who were the laughing stock of the NFL, RB's who couldn't avg 4 yds a carry until last year, and historically bad defenses of which DWare has been a big reason. So again I say WTH are you talking about.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

He was a beast in camp last season so this kind of makes sense to me. I believe the cap figures say it's 8 mill next season even if you cut him, and a restructure would lower the 12 mill cap hit for next season if we keep him. I'd rather have him take a pay cut of course. But I think keeping Ware around makes more sense than franchising Spencer last year. He was dominating Tyron Smith in one-on-one drills before this elbow thing happened. With this fixed, maybe he regains his dominance. It's a bet I think Jerry should make, and I bet he will.

This. To cut him before June 1 without negotiating a new deal would be foolish but to keep him at his present salary would be even greater folly. Offer him a new deal (not restructured) guaranteed for this year and laden with incentives and hope he takes it. If he is smart he will redo his contract.