News: ESPN: Jason Garrett: Tony Romo is healing up

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The total disrespect for Romo is mind-boggling.

I know certain people on here have been on his case for 5 years now. But now that we're lucky enough to possibly...someday...have a real replacement, the hate is overwhelming.
Blood in the water, so to speak.
 

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The total disrespect for Romo is mind-boggling.

I know certain people on here have been on his case for 5 years now. But now that we're lucky enough to possibly...someday...have a real replacement, the hate is overwhelming.
Blood in the water, so to speak.

I said it in another thread. It shocks me that it took between 06-14 for people to finally seem to feel that Romo was a great QB, and the first player who looks good in preseason and they are already looking to move on.

The guy has suffered some broken bones, sure. They are not soft tissue injuries. He is still the best cerebral QB in the league (now that Manning is out). I think by week 3-4 we'll be happy to have him back.
 

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The total disrespect for Romo is mind-boggling.

I know certain people on here have been on his case for 5 years now. But now that we're lucky enough to possibly...someday...have a real replacement, the hate is overwhelming.
Blood in the water, so to speak.

You are missing the point. I know because I am a Romo lover and have been defending against the haters for 10 years.

1. Its the excitement over Dak. Early, but he looks quality.
2. Depending on an old and brittle QB that is consistently injured does this team no good. If he can play and stay healthy and do it well, then by all means get on the field and stay there. But what good is a QB that keeps getting injured? Two years in a row? He is at the end of his career. The writing is on the wall. Its not hate, its just reality.
 

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I said it in another thread. It shocks me that it took between 06-14 for people to finally seem to feel that Romo was a great QB, and the first player who looks good in preseason and they are already looking to move on.

The guy has suffered some broken bones, sure. They are not soft tissue injuries. He is still the best cerebral QB in the league (now that Manning is out). I think by week 3-4 we'll be happy to have him back.

But............he cant seem to get on the field and stay there. The TYPE of injury is not important. Its the fact that if its not one thing, its quickly another. Throw that all in with his BAD collar bone and his BAD back at he age of 36 with his style of QBing and it should all speak for itself. Which to be honest, has been EXACTLY what has been happening.
 

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But............he cant seem to get on the field and stay there. The TYPE of injury is not important. Its the fact that if its not one thing, its quickly another. Throw that all in with his BAD collar bone and his BAD back at he age of 36 with his style of QBing and it should all speak for itself. Which to be honest, has been EXACTLY what has been happening.

No doubt,but the nature of the injury matters. If it were concusions, ligaments, muscles, etc. I'd be more concerned. He's broken 3 bones in three years, with one of those bones breaking twice. He's taken corrective action to repair one of them, and the other two are standard football injuries that could happen to anyone. The "style of play" commentary is a little silly to me, because plenty of other players get injured. The style of play bit just happens to be a convenient corrolation to the fact that he's old.

He broke his back on a standard QB slide...I'm pretty certain a QB slide is a standard style of play to ALL qbs. He just got landed on funny. Every doctor I've seen comment on it has pointed out that it's not an uncommon injury for what happened to him.
 

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I said it in another thread. It shocks me that it took between 06-14 for people to finally seem to feel that Romo was a great QB, and the first player who looks good in preseason and they are already looking to move on.

The guy has suffered some broken bones, sure. They are not soft tissue injuries. He is still the best cerebral QB in the league (now that Manning is out). I think by week 3-4 we'll be happy to have him back.

It is flat out astonishing that a lot of fans did not recognize the quality of Romo's play until 2014. And not just some, but *a lot.* There's a reason why I have so little regard the quality of thought that goes into popular fan assessments of most players. That goes for Cowboys players and players on other teams. Most people simply don't have any idea what they're talking about.

I understand the injury skepticism. He's at the age where that's obviously a factor. I don't understand the certainty that his bones are brittle and are going to break right away when he's put back in a lineup. I think it's just an emotional reaction to justify going whole-hog on the Dak-wagon, but maybe I'm off base with that. Either way, Tony's had enough broken bones that it wouldn't shock me to hear there was some other contributing factor at play (something akin to steroid use, for example). That said, until we hear something, I don't see the point of speculating on it. The dude plays through every broken bone you can play through. That alone earns him my respect. Let alone him being one of the smartest players in the whole game.
 

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No doubt,but the nature of the injury matters. If it were concusions, ligaments, muscles, etc. I'd be more concerned. He's broken 3 bones in three years, with one of those bones breaking twice. He's taken corrective action to repair one of them, and the other two are standard football injuries that could happen to anyone. The "style of play" commentary is a little silly to me, because plenty of other players get injured. The style of play bit just happens to be a convenient corrolation to the fact that he's old.

He broke his back on a standard QB slide...I'm pretty certain a QB slide is a standard style of play to ALL qbs. He just got landed on funny. Every doctor I've seen comment on it has pointed out that it's not an uncommon injury for what happened to him.

Yep. When QBs go, it's because their legs or their arms give out and it affects their passing enough that they can't make it into NFL windows anymore. Or you get something like concussions or a back or shoulder that just makes it impossible to play. We need to worry about Tony's back. The collarbones and the fractures I think are relatively small potatoes otherwise.
 

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No doubt,but the nature of the injury matters. If it were concusions, ligaments, muscles, etc. I'd be more concerned. He's broken 3 bones in three years, with one of those bones breaking twice. He's taken corrective action to repair one of them, and the other two are standard football injuries that could happen to anyone. The "style of play" commentary is a little silly to me, because plenty of other players get injured. The style of play bit just happens to be a convenient corrolation to the fact that he's old.

He broke his back on a standard QB slide...I'm pretty certain a QB slide is a standard style of play to ALL qbs. He just got landed on funny. Every doctor I've seen comment on it has pointed out that it's not an uncommon injury for what happened to him.

It has been muscles. The guy has a bad back and has had to alter his practice schedule and take time off for this over the last several years.

And you can discount his affinity to extend the play and NOT throw the ball away but it leads to the possibility of more injuries. He used to run with his legs more, cant do that anymore. Its probably time to start throwing the ball away more as well.
 

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It is flat out astonishing that a lot of fans did not recognize the quality of Romo's play until 2014. And not just some, but *a lot.* There's a reason why I have so little regard the quality of thought that goes into popular fan assessments of most players. That goes for Cowboys players and players on other teams. Most people simply don't have any idea what they're talking about.

I understand the injury skepticism. He's at the age where that's obviously a factor. I don't understand the certainty that his bones are brittle and are going to break right away when he's put back in a lineup. I think it's just an emotional reaction to justify going whole-hog on the Dak-wagon, but maybe I'm off base with that. Either way, Tony's had enough broken bones that it wouldn't shock me to hear there was some other contributing factor at play (something akin to steroid use, for example). That said, until we hear something, I don't see the point of speculating on it. The dude plays through every broken bone you can play through. That alone earns him my respect. Let alone him being one of the smartest players in the whole game.

Wait a minute........So NOW you are admitting that Romo is getting old and that makes him more injury prone? And now you are saying there MIGHT be a problem with his bones? LOL

At least my message got through.
 

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Yep. When QBs go, it's because their legs or their arms give out and it affects their passing enough that they can't make it into NFL windows anymore. Or you get something like concussions or a back or shoulder that just makes it impossible to play. We need to worry about Tony's back. The collarbones and the fractures I think are relatively small potatoes otherwise.

Yep, and also when their BACK goes.
 

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Yep. When QBs go, it's because their legs or their arms give out and it affects their passing enough that they can't make it into NFL windows anymore. Or you get something like concussions or a back or shoulder that just makes it impossible to play. We need to worry about Tony's back. The collarbones and the fractures I think are relatively small potatoes otherwise.

Breaking you collar bone 3 times and breaking your back is small potatoes? Never mind the fact that he has probably ruined 3 full seasons for us as well.

You are on another level my man. What is that they say about bliss?
 

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No doubt,but the nature of the injury matters. If it were concusions, ligaments, muscles, etc. I'd be more concerned. He's broken 3 bones in three years, with one of those bones breaking twice. He's taken corrective action to repair one of them, and the other two are standard football injuries that could happen to anyone. The "style of play" commentary is a little silly to me, because plenty of other players get injured. The style of play bit just happens to be a convenient corrolation to the fact that he's old.

He broke his back on a standard QB slide...I'm pretty certain a QB slide is a standard style of play to ALL qbs. He just got landed on funny. Every doctor I've seen comment on it has pointed out that it's not an uncommon injury for what happened to him.
Yeah, being pogosticked into the ground on your butt trying to slide and compressing all your vertebrae together would cause that injury to most everyone. David Carr also was hit similar and he broke two vertebrae. He also came back in 3 weeks.
 

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It's an interesting tactic, anyway. Asking them to repeat what they've said many times in multiple ways as if you're incredulous and just want to get them on the record. Asking them obvious unrelated questions. Then, concluding they said something almost completely unrelated to their actual posts--which are still right there for everybody to see--and claiming victory over the strawman for no reason whatsoever and saying your uninterested in hearing any further on the topic and hoping nobody notices.
we called that "pulling a graney" in the mike graney days.
 

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Wait a minute........So NOW you are admitting that Romo is getting old and that makes him more injury prone? And now you are saying there MIGHT be a problem with his bones? LOL
At least my message got through.

I'm not 100% sure you can read. If I could think of a way you could type, but not be able to read, I'd be pretty sure that's what's going on.

There's not all that much nuance in what I've said in this thread and others. I don't really get what's confusing you.

Breaking you collar bone 3 times and breaking your back is small potatoes? Never mind the fact that he has probably ruined 3 full seasons for us as well.

You are on another level my man. What is that they say about bliss?

I don't know what they say about bliss, because I have no idea where it is you get your information about anything. The collarbone breaks were not small potatoes in terms of games missed. But in terms of being a recurring problem, I think they're essentially a non-issue. I thought I'd said this already.

The fractures he's played through are small potatoes, yes. We'll see how long he's actually out with the current injury, but that looks to me to be a relatively minor injury, as well. Though it obviously has the potential to keep him out longer than that.
 

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I'm not 100% sure you can read. If I could think of a way you could type, but not be able to read, I'd be pretty sure that's what's going on.

There's not all that much nuance in what I've said in this thread and others. I don't really get what's confusing you.



I don't know what they say about bliss, because I have no idea where it is you get your information about anything. The collarbone breaks were not small potatoes in terms of games missed. But in terms of being a recurring problem, I think they're essentially a non-issue. I thought I'd said this already.

The fractures he's played through are small potatoes, yes. We'll see how long he's actually out with the current injury, but that looks to me to be a relatively minor injury, as well. Though it obviously has the potential to keep him out longer than that.

When you have to get a bone shaved down I wouldn't say the threat of a recurring injury is minimal

And back injuries don't ever get all the way better........you never know when they might pop up but they are debilitating when they do....he has had a couple back injuries that will cause future problems
 

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When you have to get a bone shaved down I wouldn't say the threat of a recurring injury is minimal

And back injuries don't ever get all the way better........you never know when they might pop up but they are debilitating when they do....he has had a couple back injuries that will cause future problems

That is not an absolute with back injuries. Broken bones don't flare up. A tiny compression fracture is not likely to cause any future issues once healed.
 

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It has been muscles. The guy has a bad back and has had to alter his practice schedule and take time off for this over the last several years.

And you can discount his affinity to extend the play and NOT throw the ball away but it leads to the possibility of more injuries. He used to run with his legs more, cant do that anymore. Its probably time to start throwing the ball away more as well.

Romo has not had a muscle injury in his career. I think you are confusing his disc with a muscle.

Also, Romo never ran that much. It's a myth.
 
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