Everyone is writing Randy Gregory off. I'm not

Gaede

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Im not counting on a guy that medicates using pot. I dont think he will kick it for a while

I feel bad for him more then Im upset about it

Nail on the head. I think he has a mental illness and self-medicates with weed. And now it is an addiction. Unfortunately, people don't often emerge from this situation until they hit rock bottom. A 4 game suspension is not in any way rock bottom
 
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Gregory was my favorite draft choice this past decade (for value). I thought he would be the second-coming of Ware (or maybe Simeon Rice). His college tape is just that good... But he has a weak character, nothing more. There is no such thing as a marijuana addiction. That is BS. He may be emotionally addicted. But when it comes down to it, it is a choice every time. He convinced me on draft day that he was changed. He has not. He is still on the roster, so of course, I will give him a chance. But if I were the GM, I would completely erase him from the depth chart and plan my team accordingly.
 

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Gregory was my favorite draft choice this past decade (for value). I thought he would be the second-coming of Ware (or maybe Simeon Rice). His college tape is just that good... But he has a weak character, nothing more. There is no such thing as a marijuana addiction. That is BS. He may be emotionally addicted. But when it comes down to it, it is a choice every time. He convinced me on draft day that he was changed. He has not. He is still on the roster, so of course, I will give him a chance. But if I were the GM, I would completely erase him from the depth chart and plan my team accordingly.

There might not be the same physical addition there is with other drugs. But lots of things can become addictive...and ultimately there are some personalities more prone to addiction.

Addiction doesn't zero out choice. We all decide. Addiction can just makes good decisions much more difficult.
 

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Cowboy need to stop getting cute with Second round draft picks. We treat them like smart teams treat 6th and 7th rounders.. That's where you pick injured or players with issues. Lee, Carter, Gregory and now Smith.

By "we" you mean Jerry.

And there's a man with some serious addictions of his own. He's every bit the addict that Gregory is and his addiction is a huge part of the problem with the Cowboy culture.
 

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I still think this kid will be something special. I know he hasn't earned that trust but it's a feeling. He is super skilled and I think the light goes on this season. Just hope he stays off the greens...
 

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The guy needs to start beating the drug test the way the rest of the league beats it.

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Mark Stepnoski smoked throughout his career (never heard thug useless player labels bc he hid it like the other players do:eek:) and used to receive anonymous phone calls to prepare his urine for clean tests. He smoked after games for pain management and mental relaxation. Why is our man Gregory left out of the club? They probably revoked Ro's membership after he went loony bin on them:D
 

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Nail on the head. I think he has a mental illness and self-medicates with weed. And now it is an addiction. Unfortunately, people don't often emerge from this situation until they hit rock bottom. A 4 game suspension is not in any way rock bottom

He's bi polar
 

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I also blame the NFLPA... The next time the CBA comes up for negotiations, they need to insist on not allowing the league to test players for THC (weed). It is not a PED, and as long as it's not giving the player an unfair advantage, then I dont see how it's the NFL's business what a player decides to put into his own body.
 

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Nail on the head. I think he has a mental illness and self-medicates with weed. And now it is an addiction. Unfortunately, people don't often emerge from this situation until they hit rock bottom. A 4 game suspension is not in any way rock bottom

If he's bi-polar, he should take his medication appropriately. But let's not get carried away with the "level of addiction" associated with marijuana; it is less physically addictive than caffeine. I see the effects of Reefer Madness still linger even almost a century later...go to a real addiction therapy center/group that include the 3 other hard drugs listed (alcohol is a hard drug; esp hard liquor, we just don't socially classify it as so) and within 5 minutes my point will be made.

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http://www.drugwarfacts.org/cms/Addictive_Properties#sthash.VeK3Toq9.BmkhQEWh.dpbs
 
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Yeah I'm writing off Gregory. He's failed 3 test after he knew he wasn't suppose to fail another one. He will fail another one. And look i would love to be wrong. I would love for Gregory to beast and someone show up years later with me on record saying he's done and throw in face. But the dude is done. He's the Justin Blackmon of defensive ends. Except we wasted a 2 rounder rather than a first.
 

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And you can rationalize why he smokes weed all day long. And I'm not even saying I got a problem with it. But the fact is he will fail another test and that is that. Simple reality of it. No if and whys. Doesn't matter why. He won't play and he won't progress. Waste of a second rounder.
 

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Some website did a study and it showed once your in the drug protocol it is very hard to get out. Its supposedly very strenuous as in they are tested constantly and if he failed knowing he was going to get tested soon what makes anyone think he will suddenly get it and change his life? i was excited for him also thinking he could become q cornerstone of this line and future all pro.
 

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I get it. He was seemed genuinely sorry for his draft mistake and said all the right things to make us believe that he was going to put the doobies down and focus on becoming a dominate football player. And instead, the dude burns us and fails a few drug tests. It's irritating and ticks me off too. Especially after he said it wouldn't happen again. So I understand why people are writing him off.

But if he can lay off the chronic after he comes back, he could be a difference maker for this defense. There's a reason why he was a top 5 talent in his draft class. He's a special talent. He flashed it last preseason and before his injury last year. And he has a year under his belt now.

I think he will be a force when he comes back. He and Lawrence both. Add Collins, Thornton, Mayowa, Tapper and a healthy Crawford to those two, and I think our pass rush will be better than what people expect.

Um, isn't that the point? Yes, he is an incredible talent, nobody was raving over his ability any more than I was. Yes, IF he can lay off the chronic. And he has clearly demonstrated that he is going to do that, huh? And it's not even the fact that he's smoking, in the grand scheme of things, I think it would have very little impact on a player's performance. But it speaks to a total lack of anything resembling dedication to his job. He just doesn't care enough and I have absolutely no faith that he is somehow going to miraculously "get it" before his next failed test. I have more faith that the NFL is going to relax its drug policy first, and believe me, I'm not holding my breath on that either. Damn shame, because I think Gregory had the potential to be utterly dominant.

Edit: He may very well have some sort of anxiety disorder. Frankly, I believe pot should be legalized, you'd have to be a moron to not recognize some of the incredible health benefits, both mental and physical, it offers at this point. Really, I'm speaking more to the impossible situation he's in now. One more positive test...just one more...and this guy is lost for double-digit games, with nothing to distract him from smoking even more. I hope he does miraculously get it, I really do, but the NFL has a way of magnifying your personal issues, not solving them.
 
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I am kind of amazed at the excuses that people are coming up for him. Fact is, he's choosing pot over an NFL career. It's not because of injury...that is a copout. There are many NFL players that seem to be able to get through injury and still remain clean.

I for one AM writing him off. To get suspended from the NFL for pot, it takes a don't care attitude. You are given many chances to fix it before the suspension happens. He obviously doesn't care. If he doesn't care, why should I?
 

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He reminds me of Joey Bosa...I think alot people will be surprised with him this dude has an engine and is relentless.
 

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He is the prototype nfl pass rusher...his rushing style is what teams look for when they draft DE's.
 

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I am at the point where im indifferent on him. If he busts it will be a disappointment, but we knew he was a gamble.
 
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