First impressive Jaylon video

waldoputty

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This is getting real stupid and it's all coming from you. You're continuing to twist me comments by putting your own spin on them. Show me where I said "not ever" concerning Smith?

"That's going to remain a big question until he's cleared to practice, if he ever is."

I tried to let you off the hook a couple times already by calling what you said hyperbole...
 

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You don't understand how the two issues are directly related. It's okay. We can move on.

I understand that it's going to take more than a nerve firing and his foot drop to return to being an elite football player. You should move, you've already had enough of what ever credibility you have damaged in the past by attempting to twist my comments.
 

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"That's going to remain a big question until he's cleared to practice, if he ever is."

I tried to let you off the hook a couple times already by calling what you said hyperbole...

You're the one on the hook pal because you continue to twist my comments and it's making you look more foolish with every post. Show me a QUOTE where I said Smith will "never" be cleared to practice? That's what you keep trying to spin I said and you're dead wrong!
 

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I understand that it's going to take more than a nerve firing and his foot drop to return to being an elite football player. You should move, you've already had enough of what ever credibility you have damaged in the past by attempting to twist my comments.

So when you want to argue, then you know something.
When you want to duck, then you never read the articles.
So you did not read, then what is your opinion worth besides he is great AFTER he becomes great?
 

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until he gets on the field with the ability to make plays their is not a lot to get excited about really the possibility still remains that he may never play football ever for any one
 

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So when you want to argue, then you know something.
When you want to duck, then you never read the articles.
So you did not read, then what is your opinion worth besides he is great AFTER he becomes great?

You watch the Sopranos? Remember Ma Soprano?

She would always find fault, never admit to anything, play the victim, then smile behind Tony's back when he would melt down.

That is what conversations with KJJ remind me of.
 

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So when you want to argue, then you know something.
When you want to duck, then you never read the articles.
So you did not read, then what is your opinion worth besides he is great AFTER he becomes great?

You're the one ducking, provide a post where I said Smith will "never" be cleared to practice? Let's see it! What's hilarious is you were agreeing with me earlier, then decided to start twisting my comments. LOL

However, while talk like "until he's cleared to practice, if he ever is" is technically correct, it is now pushing on a very unlikely scenario.
 

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until he gets on the field with the ability to make plays their is not a lot to get excited about really the possibility still remains that he may never play football ever for any one

Do you disagree that he is able to point his foot down and pick it back up in the first drill seen in the OP?
 

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Poor KJJ. No one understand him. :lmao:

He is just very risk averse.
He does not want to take a position except the safest possible position until the facts are out.
So he is never wrong.

Of course he hates the Jaylon pick.
That is one of the most extreme cases of calculated risk taken in football in a long time...
That is part of the reason I like the Cowboys is because of Jones' risk taking ways - just needed some adult supervision from Stephen/Garrett/Mcclay...
 
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Poor KJJ. No one understand him. :lmao:

The only ones who don't understand me are you and waldo because you both have an agenda to twist my comments. I can be understood by anyone who doesn't have an agenda to twist my comments and make this all about me. Go laugh at that. lol
 

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until he gets on the field with the ability to make plays their is not a lot to get excited about really the possibility still remains that he may never play football ever for any one

I see your point and KJJ's point, there is some finite possibility that Jaylon never sees the field.
Given his performance in the videos, that possibility is getting less and less likely.
Given the evidence so far, I would say that the chance Jaylon is at least 90% of his old self is much higher than the possibility you (and KJJ) raised - that he never play football ever...
That is especially true given that he could probably have played in January with the brace on...
 

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I see your point and KJJ's point, there is some finite possibility that Jaylon never sees the field.

That's what I've been saying all along that there's a "possibility" Smith never sees the field but not once did I say he would "never" see the field.
 

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I hope he plays and plays well but until he gets on the field you just never know
 

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You, me and I'm sure most everyone on this board can do that. It takes a lot more than that to play NFL football. I want to see him on the field in pads doing football drills and making some plays. My opinions are based on the severity of his injury and that there's no "guarantees" he'll return to the form he had in college. I'm certainly not saying he can't or he won't but until he has the pads on and has to start making football plays we won't know for sure where he is. There's a level he has to reach to play at the NFL level. Drills are one thing and making sideline to sideline tackles in pads on the field against NFL players are another thing. We'll find out in the spring and summer where he is as a football player.

Sound wisdom,yet after seeing that picture of him and Lee standing there ,,,one look at the battleship sized guns on him tells me he'll have no problems leveling his foes on the field, (if I kinda know what he's feeling) numbness of the foot can be played thru,which when nerves are not firing is what you have,a numb feeling, before I had 3 planar (I think that's what there called)nerves in my right foot reconnected the foot felt like a constant surge of electricity flowing downstream from the injury at what I can only relate at like 220 volts, dr. Parseghian (yes ,that famous coach of Notre Dame/ his son) got 3 hooked back up and WHAM! it cut that insane flow down to like 110 volts of numbness which is tolerable ,though still numb.
 

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That's what I've been saying all along that there's a "possibility" Smith never sees the field but not once did I say he would "never" see the field.

So you are agreeing you used that possibility to support your point. it is just that possibility is getting less and less likely since Jaylon could probably have played with a brace in January...
I dont many zoners expect not to see jaylon next year.
 

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@FuzzyLumpkins - i guess you were right lol it is not arguing facts, just tangential stuff

He's already started playing the victim. It can be any topic really and he does the same thing every time.

Downplaying that his nerve has started to fire just misses the entire point of what is going on. It is a monumental milestone in his recovery.
 
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