Fish - Is Cowboys Jaylon Smith A 'Home Run'? Or a 'Foul Ball'?

fansince68

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Maybe he will becon the top 3 in tackles at the end of the season. Then we could trade him prior to the draft for a 2nd or 3rd.
 

Silly

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I think one of those big skins Td runs was right over smith..
 

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Different question:

If Smith wasn’t picked in the second round and didn’t have a such a high contract and so many egos attached to him, would you be looking to replace him?
 

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Question:

If Dallas had waited and got Jaylon in the fourth, would people be so likely to look down on him?

If we're still paying his current contract, completely.

Jaylon is a liability on the field, at the position designed to be the playmaking position of the defense, and we play him close to 100%.

He's an anchor dragging the defense down.
 

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The guy was drafted almost 5 years ago, his draft slot is now totally irrelevant.

His cap hits are going to balloon to almost 14M/YR. This is the same as Eric Kendricks.

Eric Kendricks is the #3 LB according to PFF. Jaylon Smith is #53. There are 86 ranked LBs.

Say what you want about PFF, for Eric and Jaylon to be equivalent PFF would have to be wrong by 25 slots each for them to meet in the middle at #28. PFF isn't that bad.

This is the problem. Not the draft pick, not the swipe, not the whatever. The problem is that he's paid like a top LB but his play is, at absolute best, middle of the pack this year, and that's being optimistic to give his supporters benefit of the doubt.

Yall realize you don't have to defend him, right? Every team is gonna miss on contracts and this is one of our misses, absolutely. You're just not being reasonable if you're trying to argue Jaylon Smith is a top LB this year.

The good news is, we aren't as stuck with him as we appear. Cutting him post June 1st gives 7.2M in savings and only 2.6M dead, and we can absolutely replace Jaylon for under 7.2M, because he's not good.
 

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The guy was drafted almost 5 years ago, his draft slot is now totally irrelevant.

His cap hits are going to balloon to almost 14M/YR. This is the same as Eric Kendricks.

Eric Kendricks is the #3 LB according to PFF. Jaylon Smith is #53. There are 86 ranked LBs.

Say what you want about PFF, for Eric and Jaylon to be equivalent PFF would have to be wrong by 25 slots each for them to meet in the middle at #28. PFF isn't that bad.

This is the problem. Not the draft pick, not the swipe, not the whatever. The problem is that he's paid like a top LB but his play is, at absolute best, middle of the pack this year, and that's being optimistic to give his supporters the benefit of the doubt.

Yall realize you don't have to defend him, right? Every team is gonna miss on contracts and this is one of our misses, absolutely. You're just not being reasonable if you're trying to argue Jaylon Smith is a top LB this year.

The good news is, we aren't as stuck with him as we appear. Cutting him post-June 1st gives 7.2M in savings and only 2.6M dead, and we can absolutely replace Jaylon for under 7.2M because he's not good.
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The guy was drafted almost 5 years ago, his draft slot is now totally irrelevant.

His cap hits are going to balloon to almost 14M/YR. This is the same as Eric Kendricks.

Eric Kendricks is the #3 LB according to PFF. Jaylon Smith is #53. There are 86 ranked LBs.

Say what you want about PFF, for Eric and Jaylon to be equivalent PFF would have to be wrong by 25 slots each for them to meet in the middle at #28. PFF isn't that bad.

This is the problem. Not the draft pick, not the swipe, not the whatever. The problem is that he's paid like a top LB but his play is, at absolute best, middle of the pack this year, and that's being optimistic to give his supporters benefit of the doubt.

Yall realize you don't have to defend him, right? Every team is gonna miss on contracts and this is one of our misses, absolutely. You're just not being reasonable if you're trying to argue Jaylon Smith is a top LB this year.

The good news is, we aren't as stuck with him as we appear. Cutting him post June 1st gives 7.2M in savings and only 2.6M dead, and we can absolutely replace Jaylon for under 7.2M, because he's not good.

But his tackle totals tho?
 

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:lmao:

The best way to prove you’re devoid of understanding football is to point at tackle totals to prove a defensive player’s supposed ability.

Thanks for proving what everyone already knows about you.

“Hey guys, says here Jameis Winston threw for the most yards last year.....why isn’t he considered the best QB in the league?!?!?”

Just think if they added the return yardage from all the picks Winston threw.
And those pick sixes... lol/smh
 

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But his tackle totals tho?

So many great tackles by Smith this year to choose from.

Hey, how 'bout the one in Philly on 4th and inches.

Wentz sneaks for about a foot or two. Big pile up, progress stops.
And here comes Jaylon, sweeping around the pile and dropping to the
ground, wrapping Wentz by the ankles. Whistle blows. Wentz steps over him
and huddles up for a new set of downs. Nice tackle!... smh/lol
 

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I really don’t care where he was drafted. The fact is he sucks and is a liability.

Really is the crux of the matter.

None of us want Steele near the starting lineup because he's not good. Doesn't matter that he was a rookie udfa. He's a liability. Same goes for Jaylon.

I would love to see a lowlight video of all the big plays that have happened this year, with a focus on *** Jaylon was doing.
 

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Many people hated the pick in round 2 b/c he was a 2 year project from day 1. Smart teams don't waste years of a rookie contract rehabbing guys drafted with premium picks. But he was good year 3......... and then the FO stupidly rewarded him with this big contract years before they had to.......... many feel this was done as a response to questions about Jones loyalty to players in regard to the Zeke holdout. Jerry was trying to use Jaylon as an example of someone who shows up, works, and gets rewarded. But the contract and its timing never made sense in football terms. Jaylon has done nothing since to earn that contract and has shown the Jones to be the football fools they've always been.
 

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Many people hated the pick in round 2 b/c he was a 2 year project from day 1. Smart teams don't waste years of a rookie contract rehabbing guys drafted with premium picks. But he was good year 3......... and then the FO stupidly rewarded him with this big contract years before they had to.......... many feel this was done as a response to questions about Jones loyalty to players in regard to the Zeke holdout. Jerry was trying to use Jaylon as an example of someone who shows up, works, and gets rewarded. But the contract and its timing never made sense in football terms. Jaylon has done nothing since to earn that contract and has shown the Jones to be the football fools they've always been.
^^^^ X 1000

It's that simple....our fandom is being held hostage by the biggest frauds in the history of sports!!! I am in such a better space emotionally today....but I used to spend hours trying to figure out how we the fans can do enough to end this circus.

I used to have hopes for Stephen...but the past 3 years have shown me that he will be no better than his father. I am going to stop right here before I say something stupid!
 

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Wouldn’t of lasted until the 4th New England was snatching him with the next pic that’s why they traded back up into the second round it’s a video on YouTube his documentary following his draft dropping the link
no matter who picked him if it was before the 5th round it would have been a bad pick.
 
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