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PAPPYDOG

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He’s dumb.

I’m convinced of it.
Do you think???????????? :muttley:
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Dak has one fewer playoff win and two fewer playoff losses than a first ballot Hall of Famer. Moon played 17 years in the NFL and only twice did he throw for 30 or more TDs despite all his passing yards. He never threw for more than 33 TDs and was part of one of the biggest collapses in playoff history. Moon had talent around him. In 9 seasons Dak has thrown for more than 30 TDs three times and led the league in TDs last season. He had two seasons where he threw for more TDs than Moon ever did.

Dan Fouts a first ballot Hall of Famer had only one more playoff win than Dak despite having one of the all time greatest offenses and he played in same number of playoff games. Dak has had to deal with a number of bad defenses that have cost us playoff games and inconsistent running games. Our talent has been overrated and underachieving.
So now not only is Dak better than Aikman, he’s better than Moon and Fouts…

The fact we got dudes comparing this era to that era are clear proof they don’t know what in the world they are talking about…

I guess Dak is more accurate than Elway and Marino, because their career completion percentage didn’t even break 60%..,



I’m normally not for banning somebody’s account, but..
 

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Jerry snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

He actually said he would lets the season play out before awarding massive contracts.....and than he flipped.

He would have been negotiating with a 31 year old QB coming off a bad year and a torn hamstring
So true.

Jerry likes to present himself as a risk taker, but in this case, he just fell back into "comfortable".

Dak isn't taking this team anywhere. He had a chance to just let him walk but Jerry decided to fumble the ball to the other team.
 

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So now not only is Dak better than Aikman, he’s better than Moon and Fouts…

The fact we got dudes comparing this era to that era are clear proof they don’t know what in the world they are talking about…

I guess Dak is more accurate than Elway and Marino, because their career completion percentage didn’t even break 60%..,



I’m normally not for banning somebody’s account, but..

Who said Dak was better than Aikman, Moon and Fouts? :huh: You’re the one who doesn’t know what they’re talking about.
 

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One thing to keep in perspective though is that even if the Cowboys go this route of clearing $100M in cap space they could make some sort of splash acquisition, but I wouldn't be expecting Tee Higgins. That money could dwindle down as quick as it opens up.

No backup QB on the roster right now. No RB on the roster right now. Do you bring Cooks back? Dowdle? Turpin? Golston? OSA? Hoffman? Kendricks? Anger?

Very possible you have $50-$60m in retaining your own players.. The Cowboys typically like to keep 5-10% or so of the cap to roll over as well. Its possible you're looking at around $20M maybe $30M to spend in FA on any sort of splash player.

To Fishers article though he could be right that a Stephon Diggs could be a realistic type of target. Maybe a 2 year/$40M type of deal? Personally I think it might be a year or two late on going for him, and you probably overpay at that price, but he would still be an upgrade over what we had this season.
Ewers will be available on day 2. Draft him.
 

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Dak is very unlikable.

The more he talks the more he insults the fans intelligence.
Remember this post............
By the time Prestrash is Done in Dallas he will have become Public Enemy # 1 with the locals.
Home games will be Dak Basha -Thons with Boos and Garbage rayening down.
He will go down once again with another injury and say goodbye forever to the NFL.
How the heck is he going to live in Dallas without bodyguards 24/7 should be interesting stuff.
 

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Tom Brady was never the highest-paid player/QB in the league so there's that.
We far too obsessed with this. Every year someone has to be the highest paid. Then the next year, it's someone else. Let me put it this way, your boss gives you a raise. You gonna say no?

Oh and Dak isn't married to one of the highest paid models ever. so there's that...
 

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We far too obsessed with this. Every year someone has to be the highest paid. Then the next year, it's someone else. Let me put it this way, your boss gives you a raise. You gonna say no?

Oh and Dak isn't married to one of the highest paid models ever. so there's that...
You don't see the irony? Look up the definition. Brady took less money for a reason.
 

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You don't see the irony? Look up the definition. Brady took less money for a reason.
Sure. he didn't need it because his wife was bringing home the money. You list the one exception and try and make it the norm to winning championships. As I stated earlier, I am not a huge Dak fan but I'd also take the money. Jerry would have screwed it up either way. Don't lose sight of the real issue here and it's not Dak. There was money to bring in D Henry and others. Don't be so easily fooled. I'd argue that Ceedee's contract was worse for the team
 

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So now not only is Dak better than Aikman, he’s better than Moon and Fouts…

The fact we got dudes comparing this era to that era are clear proof they don’t know what in the world they are talking about…

I guess Dak is more accurate than Elway and Marino, because their career completion percentage didn’t even break 60%..,



I’m normally not for banning somebody’s account, but..

The Only similarity I can find common to Dakota and Fouts/Moon would have to be their collective abysmal playoff records.....
 

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Sure. he didn't need it because his wife was bringing home the money. You list the one exception and try and make it the norm to winning championships.
The other obvious exception if Mahomes. The two most dominant QBs in terms of super bowls the last 20 years have both taken team friendly deals. I agree with you that we need to blame the person giving out the contract more than the players, but it doesnt mean its the right way to go either. The top 5 QBs by AAV isnt a pretty picture in Dak/Burrow/Love/Lawrence/Tua. Just one of those guys have winning records right now.

KC and NE have had good QB deals, but they also had teams who were not afraid to turn over the rest of their roster either and make a proactive trades to clean up the cap even more and increase their draft capital. I wish Dallas would do that once in a while.
 

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The other obvious exception if Mahomes. The two most dominant QBs in terms of super bowls the last 20 years have both taken team friendly deals. I agree with you that we need to blame the person giving out the contract more than the players, but it doesnt mean its the right way to go either. The top 5 QBs by AAV isnt a pretty picture in Dak/Burrow/Love/Lawrence/Tua. Just one of those guys have winning records right now.

KC and NE have had good QB deals, but they also had teams who were not afraid to turn over the rest of their roster either and make a proactive trades to clean up the cap even more and increase their draft capital. I wish Dallas would do that once in a while.
That's just it. jerry would never clean up that roster. He could never admit that he was wrong about someone.
 

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The problem is we do not know or understand Jerry's strategy, or if he has one. There must be a reason he chose to wait until the season almost began to extend Dak, and to wait to re-sign CeeDee. He said all offseason the CAP was the problem but he could have cleared CAP space with those two deal back in March if he anted to. He waited. Why?

Had he cleared space maybe he could have kept Fowler, or someone else instead of letting everyone leave.
Exactly... there is no discernible plan.....Waiting until the off season was over to sign Dak and CD was a head scratcher......
 

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Stephon Diggs.. how many WRs you got yo go through, including a head case, to realize the WR ain’t the problem…

You still got to be able to make the reads for your later progressions.. nothing is going to increase Dak’s processing time..
Right, Dak is not going to play faster or get better as age waits on nobody.
 

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Because we extended Lamb/Dak and pushed part of their hits into the years to come. These guys were literally the excuses Jerry used for why he sat out free agency last season. If not restructured in 2025 Daks $90M hit will be the reason once again that Jerry doesn't grab a top 50 free agent.
somebody did the analysis and I have read multiple articles. with a few redos on contracts we can have about 70M on the cap for FA..... that includes Dak's 90M....the question is jerry. I hear people say that he needs it for the cap for future years, but to continue to sacrifice this year for next and next never arrives....its a jerry excuse and other teams do it and get to championship. jerry choses not to do it. based on spending and contracts its obvious he is only concerned about money....before Dak and CD contracts we were 30th in cash spending. we are 29th in dead cap (because almost all the players play to the end of their contracts regardless of play). and he has 23M in cap space which is 6th highest in the league.

butts in seats is all that matter to jerry.
 

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somebody did the analysis and I have read multiple articles. with a few redos on contracts we can have about 70M on the cap for FA..... that includes Dak's 90M....the question is jerry. I hear people say that he needs it for the cap for future years, but to continue to sacrifice this year for next and next never arrives....its a jerry excuse and other teams do it and get to championship. jerry choses not to do it. based on spending and contracts its obvious he is only concerned about money....before Dak and CD contracts we were 30th in cash spending. we are 29th in dead cap (because almost all the players play to the end of their contracts regardless of play). and he has 23M in cap space which is 6th highest in the league.

butts in seats is all that matter to jerry.
I think you're probably 80% accurate in what you're saying. Jerry has become extremely cheap over the years, and he utilizes the salary cap as a weapon to not spend as much money on the roster.

The Cowboys absolutely can clear $70M before free agency starts, although without a restructure of Dak you're going to create a lot of additional holes in the roster. This issue is they do this all the time and that's why we have so many horrible contracts including Daks. The issue with Dak's deal really isn't the 4/$240m structure but rather the fact that it follows a 4/$160 structure where they only absorbed about $63M of it when they signed the extension and passed the rest of the bill into the current deal. From 2024 through the rest of Daks deal the Cowboys have to take $334M in cap hits on Dak alone.

Continuing to restructure these deals, especially Daks could completely destroy the Cowboys future. I'd be OK with that if Jerry truly went for an all in year and loaded up on talent, but I wont hold my breath.

The other top QBs in the $55M club arent all that insane because they mostly signed early. Burrows 5 year deal is really 7 with his last two years of rookie control to spead the cap hit out over. Same with Lawrence. Jordan Loves deal I'm not a fan of, but at least that's a 5 year total agreement plus is just a 2nd contract so it doesn't come with the carry over money like Daks is.

Dak's deal IMO gives Jerry an easy excuse to not pay many free agents once again. I hate it because its probably the right thing to do and not restructure Dak this year, but its all because of how Jerry handled the Dak negotiations as far back as 2020.
 

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Dak was trash this season, and he's done for the season so stop talking to him lol. Go interview QB1, Cowboys got a game to play Monday.
 
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