For All You Conspiracy Nuts

PJTHEDOORS said:
So how then is the Area 51 base kept in secret? No, not Bob Lazar. lol
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A lot of speculation surrounds it too. There is nothing definitive about what/has gone on there. I don't think there are little green men or spacecraft inside but could be wrong :D

I buy into Roswell/Area151 much more than 9/11 or the moon landing though.
 
dexternjack said:
A lot of speculation surrounds it too. There is nothing definitive about what/has gone on there. I don't think there are little green men or spacecraft inside but could be wrong :D

I buy into Roswell/Area151 much more than 9/11 or the moon landing though.
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Well there is a reason we have a so called black budget for Area 51 projects.
 
PJTHEDOORS said:
Well there is a reason we have a so called black budget for Area 51 projects.
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No doubt, but it is more likely technology for new warfare and other fringe scientific experiments. I don't doubt that it exists, just hesitant to believe they are dissecting alien technology.
 
dexternjack said:
Conspiracy theories are fun and something to get the mind wandering. I don't buy most of it, especially the moon landing. My mom was the lead nurse at NASA and did the final check-up on the astronauts before they left. Have met all of them(we lived in Clear Lake/Webster) and they never gave off any vibe to a fakeing......exact opposite and were excited.

You can break down any event and make it look like an ulterior motive. There are some puzzling questions around 911 but I don't think our government planned it.....no way that is kept a secret much like JFK.

I do believe in aliens yet not in relation to them being on Earth....past or present. It is a mathematical impossibility for there not to be life somewhere out there :cool:
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The moon landing could not have been faked and last for long. Thousands worked for NASA. It would have gotten out fairly soon. Now of course you have telescopes powerful enough to actually see the remnants at the various sites. That one had a fairly short shelf life for anyone with any kind of intelligence at all.
 
diefree666 said:
The moon landing could not have been faked and last for long. Thousands worked for NASA. It would have gotten out fairly soon. Now of course you have telescopes powerful enough to actually see the remnants at the various sites. That one had a fairly short shelf life for anyone with any kind of intelligence at all.
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We have not gone back to the moon in almost 50 years.WHY??? We didn't lose any astronauts who went to the moon ,but Columbia & Challenger we have. Do you really think that the computers and technology could get us there and back back in 1969? You don't send a dog or monkey first to the moon before man??? That video I showed above shows something very strange at the end. Why is Michael Collins peeling off stickers off the window to make the Earth look fuzzy and when the spacecraft interior lights come on ? Why are they on the opposite side of the spacecraft filming acting like they are close at the window showing the Earth? They needed the illusion to show like they were far away from the Earth vs a few days earlier...


Why the reason for the hoax? IMO here is why NASA is spending Billions and the USA is going into debt.Talk of scrapping NASA because the cost. We have an unpopular war, JFK,RFK,and Martin Luther King have been assassinated.The youth is rioting vs the government both parties are not trusted.Constant talk of revolution. Soviet Union has had an advantage in the space race and we are in a Cold War with them while the Vietnam War is sucking us dry and we are a country that is cracking up fianancially and emotionally and while the Soviet Union and China sit back and watch us spend ourselves silly. We also needed to have this turbulent decade leave on a happy moment,hence the moon landing where we all can come together.It's moon landing success also has USA become the #1 country for technology and economically superiority in the world.....Also there was that investigator who got killed by a train when investigating I believe Gus Grissom and that death accident with that simulator.
 
Luv my conspiracies, but I have zero percent belief in any "9/11" or "Faked moon landing" conspiracies. None.
 
timb2 said:
We have not gone back to the moon in almost 50 years.WHY??? We didn't lose any astronauts who went to the moon ,but Columbia & Challenger we have. Do you really think that the computers and technology could get us there and back back in 1969? You don't send a dog or monkey first to the moon before man??? That video I showed above shows something very strange at the end. Why is Michael Collins peeling off stickers off the window to make the Earth look fuzzy and when the spacecraft interior lights come on ? Why are they on the opposite side of the spacecraft filming acting like they are close at the window showing the Earth? They needed the illusion to show like they were far away from the Earth vs a few days earlier...


Why the reason for the hoax? IMO here is why NASA is spending Billions and the USA is going into debt.Talk of scrapping NASA because the cost. We have an unpopular war, JFK,RFK,and Martin Luther King have been assassinated.The youth is rioting vs the government both parties are not trusted.Constant talk of revolution. Soviet Union has had an advantage in the space race and we are in a Cold War with them while the Vietnam War is sucking us dry and we are a country that is cracking up fianancially and emotionally and while the Soviet Union and China sit back and watch us spend ourselves silly. We also needed to have this turbulent decade leave on a happy moment,hence the moon landing where we all can come together.It's moon landing success also has USA become the #1 country for technology and economically superiority in the world.....Also there was that investigator who got killed by a train when investigating I believe Gus Grissom and that death accident with that simulator.
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I really like your idea for this thread as it is fun to talk conspiracies even if you don't think they are true.
That's why I posted the moon stuff. I have to say at the end of the day I do think we went but there are a lot of strange things in the Apollo program which could be questioned.
Like you showed them faking that shot being half way to the moon when they were clearly in earth orbit is weird.
Also in one of Sibrels movies when he showed it to Aldrin he had a strange reply.
He said why not go ask Nasa we were just passengers on a flight.
And here is a clip of Alan Bean seemingly unaware of the Van Allen belts.
 
timb2 said:
We have not gone back to the moon in almost 50 years.WHY??? We didn't lose any astronauts who went to the moon ,but Columbia & Challenger we have. Do you really think that the computers and technology could get us there and back back in 1969? You don't send a dog or monkey first to the moon before man??? That video I showed above shows something very strange at the end. Why is Michael Collins peeling off stickers off the window to make the Earth look fuzzy and when the spacecraft interior lights come on ? Why are they on the opposite side of the spacecraft filming acting like they are close at the window showing the Earth? They needed the illusion to show like they were far away from the Earth vs a few days earlier...


Why the reason for the hoax? IMO here is why NASA is spending Billions and the USA is going into debt.Talk of scrapping NASA because the cost. We have an unpopular war, JFK,RFK,and Martin Luther King have been assassinated.The youth is rioting vs the government both parties are not trusted.Constant talk of revolution. Soviet Union has had an advantage in the space race and we are in a Cold War with them while the Vietnam War is sucking us dry and we are a country that is cracking up fianancially and emotionally and while the Soviet Union and China sit back and watch us spend ourselves silly. We also needed to have this turbulent decade leave on a happy moment,hence the moon landing where we all can come together.It's moon landing success also has USA become the #1 country for technology and economically superiority in the world.....Also there was that investigator who got killed by a train when investigating I believe Gus Grissom and that death accident with that simulator.
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like all too many you ignore the facts that destroy your case.

and what happened in Apolo 1 to the three astronauts is very easily explained; and why they almost completely redesigned the command module afterwards.

Logic and common senses shows that the Moon Landings did happen as everyone watched.
 
timb2 said:
I also have been there too and there is no way Oswald made that head shot from the angle of Dealey Plaza,maybe the throat but the head shot Dealey Plaza starts to curve
.That's why they do not want people near that 6th floor window.Also why didn't Oswald take the easy shot of JFK's limo coming down Houston Street?
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If you're crazy enough to kill the president the shot itself wasn't that big a deal and what are you talking about you can't get near that window? You can get within a few feet of it. The next window you can look out of is only 8 feet or so away. As far as not shooting down Houston street, better that all the trouble (cops, secret service) is going away from you then coming right to you.
 
diefree666 said:
I never found anything to indicate that Oswald did any practicing prior to that day. So without any practice he makes three shots that good- actually improving- and every sniper I have ever talked to said that its your first shot that is the best since you are more prepared.
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Oswald wasn't a sniper, he was a nutcase with a gun, bet he was more nervous on the first shot
 
gunman behind the fence on the grassy knoll
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diefree666 said:
like all too many you ignore the facts that destroy your case.

and what happened in Apolo 1 to the three astronauts is very easily explained; and why they almost completely redesigned the command module afterwards.

Logic and common senses shows that the Moon Landings did happen as everyone watched.
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Your logic and common senses.
 
The trickery with the window while in orbit. I have not had any explaination why they are doing this. I have debated this topic before for years and never do I get a clear answer why they are doing this? .... How did NASA know that the moon landing would go well like it did? You haven't sent a monkey or dog before. How did they just know that this will work and we will send 3 astronauts. NASA just got in hot water about Grissom and the other 2 astronauts being killed. ....Also questions not answered WHY ARE THERE NO STARS IN THE PICTURES???? They would have to map out the stars of all the galaxies.......WHY ARE THERE CROSSHAIRS FROM THE CAMERA BEHIND OBJECTS?. 1st in the landrover picture,the landrover is forward of the etched in crosshairs of the camera and 2nd the Flag a cross hair is behind the astronaut not in front???
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OK I will give my theory about JFK and the reasons why......

1-LBJ is under investigation for corruption from the Senate. The Kennedy's are not stopping it and LBJ's secretary said that JFK told her 3 days before that they were dropping LBJ from the ticket.This all went away when he became President.

2-Hide the truth of how corrupt the government is and it's tie to the Mafia and organized crime. RFK is busting the mob and also drug running through the south of the border. Laredo,TX was a big bust to stop this and the links to the Dallas Mafia,New Orleans,Hillbilly,the 5 families, whatever you want to call it.

3-The CIA extremists are ticked off. Allen Dulles wanted to be like J.Edgar Hoover and JFK fired him after The Bay of Pigs.So do you think Dulles on the Warren Commission was a impartial investigator?Talks of shutting them down probably had them freaking out as they had the Mafia do some of their dirty work.

4-The FBI's J. Edgar Hoover and his connection to the Mob. Yes J. Edgar Hoover got guys like John Dillinger,Maching Gun Kelly,and Bonnie & Clyde,but those were robbers not the Mafia... Why did Lucky Luciano slip bye? Why did Meir Lansky never ever get in trouble?? Why is it in the late 1950s J.Edgar Hoover said "There is no such thing as the Mafia,that's a myth" and a few years later it broke there was a Mafia and 5 big families. When the FBI used I believe Joe Rizzo to torture one of those redneck KKK guys to find out where the 3 teens in Mississippi(2 jews and 1 black) were buried in that swamp.

5-Sam Giacana(Chicago) & Carlos Marcello(New Orleans) hated JFK. Marcello had a big investment in Cuba with drugs and ,gambling,and prostitution and they wanted Castro out at all cost.Bay of Pigs ticked off the CIA but also corrupt types

6-No money to be made in peace. JFK stopped Cuba and then was going to get out of Vietnam. The big Military investors wanted to score big. Vietnam I believe cost the USA 200 billion

7-LBJ ordered it,Dulles set up the patsy and the hit men.The FBI covered it up with the cronies in the press.
 
Of all the JFK conspiracy theories I have ever heard this one intrigues me the most.
Read a book called King Kill 33

 
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