For all you T.O bashers listen to Mickey Spags

[BigDFan5]

Well, I like you too, so I will tell you what.

If I can come here without seeing the word "Haters" re every critique of Owens, or Carter, or Carp, or anyone, you have my word I will refrain from the very annoying 'sniffers'.

Yes, "sniffers" is an intentional reminder to those who label that no one enjoys being tagged on their opinions, and I am happy you said what you just did.

I happen to find "hater" just as repellant as you do "sniffer".

So let's strike a 'gentlemans' compromise' and desist from using the labels.

I'll hold up MY end.

Let's see those who call "hater" every turn do the same.

Deal?

PS Sure, I am a TG and Bill sniffer....BIG time

I dont use the term haters either everyone has a right to an opinion right or wrong. My point is, if you feel "hater" is annoying and wrong why lower yourself to doing the exact same thing that you admittedly hate? If other people wanna call people a hater for their opinions let them, why bring down the quality of your own posts with the same childish behavior

 

[ilovejerry]

I didn't grant integrity to the media, or the NFL, or anyone else for that matter, so you missed the point entirely.

Read the whole thing I messed up the post I answered your questions but there hi lighted and I get your point I just don't put much stock in the players, They will not raise my children I will, Its a Game its entertainment,

 

[Hostile]

Read the whole thing I messed up the post I answered your questions but there hi lighted and I get your point I just don't put much stock in the players, They will not raise my children I will, Its a Game its entertainment,

You gotta open and close the quotes. Close the first part then open a new part.

Doesn't get confusing that way.

From where I sit, you're putting a lot of stock in TO. Way too much.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

Apparently the media and other metrosexuals are taking over football...

for a group that idolizes players like Mean Joe Green or Dick Butkus(other known, but yet to be convicted spitters) you would think they wouldn't react with such exaggerated shock and horror... then again, they are metrosexuals after all... :catty:

 

[ilovejerry]

You gotta open and close the quotes. Close the first part then open a new part.

Doesn't get confusing that way.

From where I sit, you're putting a lot of stock in TO. Way too much.

I know but I have my hands full here,

 

[ilovejerry]

Apparently the media and other metrosexuals are taking over football...

for a group that idolizes players like Mean Joe Green or Dick Butkus you would they wouldn't react with such exaggerated shock and horror... then again, they are metrosexuals after all... :catty:

Whats a Metrosexual is that like a Romosexual

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Yes, I think the media has a lot to do with it. I also think he has invited it.

I take it you don't?

So, you think there was nothing at all strange about him going outside his house to do situps in his driveway? Everything he does will be under a magnifying glass and guess what, he invited that scrutiny. It's not like they have had an agenda to slander and libel him. He's the fool who threw 2 different QBs under the bus.

Come on man, I was born at night but it wasn't last night.

Give him the benefit of the doubt? For an admission? Oh wait, he retracted that later to clarify it. Yeah, after he learned there's no video footage of it.

When the scrutiny of him is ridiculous I've defended him. Go back and look if you have doubts. He's trying to retract an admission. Excuse me for my skepticism given his past. I gave up believing in knights in shining armor and slaying dragons a long, long time ago.

He wants me to believe he's a good guy? It's real simple, don't be a jerk. Don't tell the press you sleep through meetings and film sessions. Don't draw taunting flags. Don't open your pie hole and change your feet. Don't tell me you're leery of "snitches." Don't spit on other players.

If he'd do his job and shut the hell up with all of this crap I'd give him the benefit of the doubt. He hasn't earned it. Him wearing the uniform doesn't mean autonomy is granted. I refuse to be a hypocrite who will bag on Commanders fans for defending Sean Taylor blindly and then blindly defend one of my own players for the same act.

If you have no qualms about it, then by all means go right ahead. Integrity means more to me than that. Hence why I said I don't back my children blindly when they are in the wrong. I'm not going to enable and rationalize stupidity.

Good stuff Hos!

The part in bold was extremely good points.

- Mike G.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

I think you are failing to see his point.

Like you said he was told "Hall is claiming that you spit on him, did you". He didnt say "hall says you intentionally spit on him.

So is it at least POSSIBLE that TO knew when he was yelling that spit flew out of his mouth So he replied yes I am sorry about that? is it 1% possible that since the NFLN guys did not tell him Hall was saying it was on purpose that maybe just maybe he didnt know Hall was saying it was intentional instead of just spit in the heat of a screaming match?

Hence my point about 2 Guys seeing the same exact thing and coming away with 2 extremely different conclusions.

I see his point of view, I just dont believe it and vice versa.

- Mike G.

 

[tyke1doe]

What's even more interesting in omission by the TO minimizers is that Deion asked him again, "Don't you know that spitting on someone is degrading?"

If you spray a person, that's not degrading. That's accidental.

Intentionally spitting on someone is DEGRADING.

If I didn't intentionally spit on someone and accidentally sprayed them, I'm going to say, "Now wwwaaaiiitttt a minute. I didn't intentionally spit on that guy. We were jawing at one another and I might have sprayed him. But I didn't purposely try to degrade him. I would never want to do that because I wouldn't want it done to me."

But did you hear TO even try to defend himself, especially if he didn't do it?

No. He merely continued to apologize and say, "it's behind me."

 

[Hostile]

I know but I have my hands full here,

It often happens when you fall on the wrong side of an issue and have to spin control to defend it.

 

[Doomsday101]

LOL!

And what's even more interesting in omission by the TO minimizers is that Deion asked him again, "Don't you know that spitting on someone is degrading?"

If you spray a person, that's not degrading. That's accidental.

Intentionally spitting on someone is DEGRADING.

If I didn't intentionally spit on someone and accidentally sprayed them, I'm going to say, "Now wwwaaaiiitttt a minute. I didn't intentionally spit on that guy. We were jawing at one another and I might have sprayed him. But I didn't purposely try to degrade him. I would never want to do that because I wouldn't want it done to me."

But did you hear TO even try to defend himself, especially if he didn't do it?

No. He merely continued to apologize and say, "it's behind me."

Put what behind him? if he did not do anything wrong. I agree you have nothing to put behind you if it was an accident. :laugh2:

 

[theogt]

It often happens when you fall on the wrong side of an issue and have to spin control to defend it.

Did he intentionally spit on him?

I don't know if he did or not. I think the only wrong position here is claiming one side or the other.

 

[ilovejerry]

It often happens when you fall on the wrong side of an issue and have to spin control to defend it.

You still want to debate. About what I gracefully read your points and gave you my thoughts what am I missing, My hands are full, right now what do we need to discuss now,please tell me so I can go on with my life Sir.

 

[Hostile]

Did he intentionally spit on him?

I don't know if he did or not. I think the only wrong position here is claiming one side or the other.

I disagree.

 

[theogt]

I disagree.

So you know that he spit on him intentionally?

 

[iceberg]

So you know that he spit on him intentionally?

i know i don't give a damn.

i know no one but TO knows if it was intentional or not so it's kinda pointless to say that EVEN IF you're "defending" him.

who cares about this issue? make it any other player the "interest" fades.

go figure.

 

[ilovejerry]

It often happens when you fall on the wrong side of an issue and have to spin control to defend it.

I reiterate what did I miss?

 

[iceberg]

I reiterate what did I miss?

a few tons of apathy.

 

[Doomsday101]

i know i don't give a damn.

i know no one but TO knows if it was intentional or not so it's kinda pointless to say that EVEN IF you're "defending" him.

who cares about this issue? make it any other player the "interest" fades.

go figure.

It is not even TO it becomes the defense of his actions by some that cause these thread to grow. Your right the incident is over and the league has handed down the fine end of story as far as the Cowboys and TO are concerned. I think some are more flabbergasted how anyone can defend the action

 

[Hostile]

You still want to debate. About what I gracefully read your points and gave you my thoughts what am I missing, My hands are full, right now what do we need to discuss now,please tell me so I can go on with my life Sir.

I'll always debate a subject.

I can't tell you how to go on with your life. The role of a conscience was played by an animated grasshopper for a wooden puppet who wanted to be a real boy.