For the money Dak wants, Cowboys could get just about any QB they want

IslandCowboy

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He doesn't quit or choke when things aren't going well.
Last I checked Marriott and Prescott have the same amount of playoff wins and Dak has more regular season wins over the same period of time and Marriotta's stats clearly show Dak is better when compared side by side. Not sure if you're being serious or a troll, but I don't think anyone would trade Dak for Marriota. This was the first year where Dak really choked. Last year it was on the run defense against the Rams and the year before that it took a miracle catch by Green Bay to send us packing.
 

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For the kind of money Dak Prescott is wanting, the Cowboys can get just about any quarterback they want- even an established veteran from another team.
Why would a new head coach want to be forced to base his success on a quarterback who choked in front of the entire NFL in 2019?
The Cowboys can make a deal to trade up to the number one overall pick and take Burrows or Lawrence, or they can take Case Keenum in free agency and draft a successor.
They could go after Teddy Bridgewater, Nick Foles, or even Derek Carr. All of these quarterbacks mentioned have more impressive resumes than Dak.
I think Dak can be serviceable, but not great. And the Cowboys can't afford to invest the kind of money he is demanding in him after his poor performance in the last 8 games of 2019.
With a new head coach and personnel changes that will inevitably come with him, the Cowboys would be silly to invest big money into a quarterback who the film shows missed wide open receivers repeatedly with the 2019 season on the line.
The Cowboys can win next season, but they will have to do it with a more consistent quarterback.
Prescott was Garrett's last best hope.
They both showed all of the trademarks of Garrett's tenure in Dallas.
Or they can do what they're going to do. Resign their top 10, quickly emerging top 5 franchise QB to a long term contract. Just like what the 31 other teams general managers would do if they were lucky enough to have him!
 

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No they couldnt get any qb they want. Lets eee..... would we not want a top 5 QB?
Well no matter what we offered the following, we could not get them.

Mahomes
Jackson
fill in any remaining qb you would like. Are they soon to be unrestricted free agemst? nope? I thought so.
 

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Trevor Lawrence isnt eligible to come out this year. And Foles got benched for Gardner Minshew. Case Keenum got benched for Dwayne Haskins.

Dak is NOT the problem. If you think the QBs listed above are as good or better than Dak you need to re evaluate.

He’s a top 10 QB. You can only win with guys like Keenum or Tannehill if you have an all star defense or a man child at RB. Dallas currently has none of those.
Top 2 or three OL in the league. Top 2 or three RB in the league. Gallup, Cooper, Cobb. Please. I want to love Prescott but he's just OK. Not bad, not great, just ok. They should win with him but he's just an average QB. How many times has he missed Gallup on for-sure TD's the last two years? Or for-sure first downs. He's almost like a sandlot QB that just relies on his instincts instead of mechanics and being a real QB. He's reached his potential (nothing will change; his stats will be the EXACT same next year and they'll be 8-8, 9-7 blah, blah, blah. GUARANTEED).
 

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One thing that I think people are missing, including NFL execs, is that the QB position isn't as shallow as it used to be. A long time ago, the guy had to be tall, strong, intelligent, great arm, etc. The number of people 6'5" or taller is pretty small so you start with a small group and whittle it down from there.

The rise of the mobile QB has really opened things up. A lot of QB's now create throwing space with their feet as much as their height. Given that there are significantly more 6'3" guys around, the odds of finding one with the other characteristics you need are much better.

This year, 12 QB's had a rating of 95 or higher. Going back to 1999, one did. Some of that is the rules changes but the reality is that its a lot easier to get a guy who can throw the ball than it was in the past.

People will point to the Kellen Moore / John Kitna era. Well, Dallas didn't invest draft picks and they didn't invest money in the position. IMHO, if you have:
- A good coach
- A good line
- Reasonable receivers
There are a lot of players you can either get with capspace or a high draft pick that will look good.

Giving $35m per year to Dak is stupid. I know, they were stupid to give that much to Zeke, Tank and Jaylon. I agree. Why keep making the same mistake? Dak had his chance to get overpaid. He turned it down. Tag him and replace him.
The baseball player/football connection is at a all time high now also. Which is another reason the QB pool has broadened even more. That trickles into what you are saying overall. Yeah.
 

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They brought Foles back after returned from IR and got benched again.

Keenum led the Vikings on the back of that defense. He flamed out last year in Denver and this year in Washington.

Keenum also proves that Dak isn't the only QB has does better with better coaching and a better supporting cast.
 

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No team in the nfl with a GM with any sense would give Dak 40 mil a year. Tag him, see what shakes out and then if he hits another downward spiral, draft a qb and let him walk. He needs way too many pieces around him to be successful and paying him 40 mil would just guarantee more mediocrity.
 

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Marcus Mariota will be available, too. He would be an upgrade over Dak.

What has Mariota done with the same Titans team that advanced in the playoffs yesterday. I mean if we are going to hold Dak to certain standards then all QB's should be held to the same standard. If Dak had of gotten benched and then the back up came in and lead the Cowboys to a playoff appearance and a wildcard win. Then that would be used against Dak as a QB. Mariota got benched for a reason.
 

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For the kind of money Dak Prescott is wanting, the Cowboys can get just about any quarterback they want- even an established veteran from another team.
Why would a new head coach want to be forced to base his success on a quarterback who choked in front of the entire NFL in 2019?
The Cowboys can make a deal to trade up to the number one overall pick and take Burrows or Lawrence, or they can take Case Keenum in free agency and draft a successor.
They could go after Teddy Bridgewater, Nick Foles, or even Derek Carr. All of these quarterbacks mentioned have more impressive resumes than Dak.
I think Dak can be serviceable, but not great. And the Cowboys can't afford to invest the kind of money he is demanding in him after his poor performance in the last 8 games of 2019.
With a new head coach and personnel changes that will inevitably come with him, the Cowboys would be silly to invest big money into a quarterback who the film shows missed wide open receivers repeatedly with the 2019 season on the line.
The Cowboys can win next season, but they will have to do it with a more consistent quarterback.
Prescott was Garrett's last best hope.
They both showed all of the trademarks of Garrett's tenure in Dallas.

Just curious but do you watch football?
 

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The next time Dak responds to a big time pressure situation like Watson did yesterday will be the first.

If he ever begins to show that he can do that I might start to come around him.

After four full seasons of not showing he has that in him I'm not holding my breath.
Nailed it!
 

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Do you have any idea what it would take to trade up to number one? If you go by the generally accepted trade chart the number one pick is worth 3000 points. Our pick at 17 is worth 950. We’d have to give them that and still come up with another 2000 points or so of value. Not gonna happen.

Would have to pull a Mike Ditka and go into the following year draft also.
 

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Do you have any idea what it would take to trade up to number one? If you go by the generally accepted trade chart the number one pick is worth 3000 points. Our pick at 17 is worth 950. We’d have to give them that and still come up with another 2000 points or so of value. Not gonna happen.
Can we sign and trade Dak to help make up the difference or something? I’m genuinely asking because I don’t know how that works but if he’s as good as some of y’all think that should do it right? Maybe add another 3rd but again I don’t know how the points work
 

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@leeblair @JohnBoy Maybe we watched different games. I think overall Dak did a great job. Saying he “choked” was just stupid. What a dumb bias assessment.

Dak has heart and throws pretty darn good. I will take him over most quarterbacks. He is young, makes good decisions, good velocity and has the drive to win. Look at his record since he’s been in the league, pretty darn impressive; now throw in the number of yards. The man is great and you can’t even recognize it. He has improved his craft each season thus far.

I want a new coach to come in and clean up the drop passes, develop situational schemes, manage the game clock better and develop a game plan to confuse opposing teams.


Some of these threads are just stupid.

The majority of these threads are stupid. Trying to argue that Dak is any less than a top 10-15 QB is ridiculous.
 

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What do people want to pay Dak. 25 million. I don’t get it. If you only paid him 25 million then it’s ok for him to be our franchise QB.
Value is the answer but like I said people like you like to get conveniently obtuse. I say don’t even bring him back but at least at 25 that’s a better deal for his skill set than 35-40. Can’t believe all of a sudde people know nothing about value smh.
 

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Dak is good at times. I don't believe he is a Super Bowl QB, but maybe he can be with an amazing coach. Either way, Jerry has decided on Dak, and he shows no interest in creating competition at that position. Let's just pray we finally address safety this decade.
Is Dak signed and I didn’t know? Until he’s actually signed he hasn’t decided on anything yet.
 

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Hey, I have an idea. Let's start another bash Dak thread including incorrect data and horrific QB evaluations!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have an idea if you don’t like the threads stop posting in them. I guess both sides can’t stop doing what they’re doing.
 

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so many dumb threads without actually thinking about it,there is almost 0% chance we can get a QB who can replicate Daks year next season.
That’s not the point though so I don’t get your logic. You want a qb that can eventually be better than Dak and most should understand that doesn’t happen right away.
 
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