For The Torry Holt Crowd... **Updated** Holt released (post #72)

[lane]

eagles and giants will be looking hard...

 

[Woods]

eagles and giants will be looking hard...

I would think so.

Holt isn't coming cheap, IMO.

 

[FanSince61]

eagles and giants will be looking hard...

I would expect to see with one of those before us.

 

[Wood]

the cowboys strength on offense switched from passing attack to running attack with emergence of Jones and Choice. Dallas has enough talent at WR to complement the rushing attack.

 

[EPL0c0]

Signing Torry Holt is *NOT* a commitment to youth.

DON'T DO IT JERRY!

But then again...I guess releasing a 35year old WR that has had 10+ TDs each of the last 3 years and signing a 32year old WR that has had 10+TDs in just 3 of his 11 seasons is sort of a commitment to bringing in younger players.

:bang2:

 

[HanD]

who cares about a committment to youth? we could field a team of all over 40 players for all i care as long as we win. i want the best team possible on the field. holt is up there with WRRW and is hands down better than any other WR we have on the roster. crayton is turning 30 and isn't near the WR holt is and is making 3.5 per year.

 

[AKATheRake]

That's funny, I was thinking just the opposite. The GM side of me knows that injuries happen. While I do have confidence in Williams, Austin and Crayton to do very well as our 123, I loath the prospect of playing an extended period without any one of the 3.

Don't know about you guys, but I still view us as a SuperBowl contender. What if we fail to draft and impactful WR and one of our top 3 suffers a season ending injury.

Now I agree any acquisition of Holt must be under favorable terms. His salary must be in line and he must understand that he will not be "given" a starting spot.

He will have to compete and win a starting spot out right.

I'd favor a 2 yr deal with low base salary, loaded with incentives for starting and playing a paticular amount of snaps.

Perhaps a 2 mil base and incentives of another 1-3 mil for playing time earned.

You're right about the competition thing and I don't think Holt would be worried about that but the money you would have to pay him would pretty much say he's a starter.

The truth of the whole WR matter is that no one on our team would beat Torry Holt out of a starting spot right now, not even RW. You can use the word competition in camp and really have them all duke it out for the starting spots but Austin Crayton or Hurd are not going to beat Holt and RW for playing time because they are just the better WR's.

Get Holt, his chmpionship ring and 2 SB experience in here. His skill set is the perfect compliment to what we already have in RW. His track record and durability is what this WR corps is lacking. His character and lead by example leadership will be god for the rest of the WR corps and offense. Fair deal and we shoud get this done.

Drafting a WR is counter productive otherwise we should have never goten RW in the first place or drafted 1 last year. None of these guys other than Crabtree and Malkin would offer us more than what's already on our roster.

 

[AKATheRake]

who cares about a committment to youth? we could field a team of all over 40 players for all i care as long as we win. i want the best team possible on the field. holt is up there with WRRW and is hands down better than any other WR we have on the roster. crayton is turning 30 and isn't near the WR holt is and is making 3.5 per year.

We have a very young team and the age is only on the offensive line where that really doesn't show up anyways for o-linemen until they're 33. Holt at 32 will not hurt us age wise if we get him for 2-3 years signed up. Our WR's are not durable or enough, nor have they proven they can be relied upon to start for a whole season except RW.

 

[Bleu Star]

omg... Do this Jerry.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Fellas, the problem I see with getting Holt is that it totally blows the argument Jerry has been using (that cutting TO was about giving the young WRs an opportunity) totally out of the water.

How can Jerry say he wants to give the yonger WRs an opportunity to play and then turn around and sign a 32 yr old receiver in Holt???

These two things are mutually exclusive, you cant on one hand want to give the young WRs a chance to play and then on the other hand sign a vet WR that is going to take playing time and balls away from the young guys.


That is why I think there is noway we sign Holt.

 

[CF74]

Fellas, the problem I see with getting Holt is that it totally blows the argument Jerry has been using (that cutting TO was about giving the young WRs an opportunity) totally out of the water.

How can Jerry say he wants to give the yonger WRs an opportunity to play and then turn around and sign a 32 yr old receiver in Holt???

These two things are mutually exclusive, you cant on one hand want to give the young WRs a chance to play and then on the other hand sign a vet WR that is going to take playing time and balls away from the young guys.


That is why I think there is noway we sign Holt.

When has that ever stopped Jerry from doing anything? We all know what he said about the young receivers was just an excuse. C'mon man...

 

[Ultra Warrior]

Fellas, the problem I see with getting Holt is that it totally blows the argument Jerry has been using (that cutting TO was about giving the young WRs an opportunity) totally out of the water.

How can Jerry say he wants to give the yonger WRs an opportunity to play and then turn around and sign a 32 yr old receiver in Holt???

These two things are mutually exclusive, you cant on one hand want to give the young WRs a chance to play and then on the other hand sign a vet WR that is going to take playing time and balls away from the young guys.


That is why I think there is noway we sign Holt.

Holt has won a Super Bowl. Owens didn't. The young WRs would gain more from a WR who has WON at the highest peak you can get than one who wasn't able to help us get 1 playoff win.

 

[Ken]

Those who wouldn't want Holt on this team clearly understand nothing about football.

This guys is a perfect fit here....would do wonders for our offense.

 

[dbair1967]

I wouldnt be disappointed if we signed him, but I seriously doubt we have any chance to do it. They arnt going to sign him to a big deal, and with all the teams out there that are looking for WR's (Philly, NYG, Jax, Tenn etc etc) he's going to get a good deal.

One place that might end up being a real option for him would be Arizona if they traded Boldin because of Holts relationship with Warner.

I'd say there's a less than 1 in 10 chance we sign him, and they might not even be interested.

 

[Woods]

As per KFFL.com,


Eagles | No interest in Holt
Fri, 13 Mar 2009 19:59:51 -0700

Bob Brookover, of the Philadelphia Inquirer, reports the Philadelphia Eagles do not have any interest in free-agent WR Torry Holt (Rams), according to a team source.

Falcons | L. Smith expects to have contract soon
Fri, 13 Mar 2009 19:59:11 -0700

Bob Brookover, of the Philadelphia Inquirer, reports free-agent TE L.J. Smith (Eagles) said he expects to have a contract with the Atlanta Falcons within a few days.

Giants | No interest in Holt
Fri, 13 Mar 2009 19:15:09 -0700

Paul Needell, of The Star-Ledger, reports the New York Giants have no interest in free-agent WR Torry Holt (Rams), according to an NFL executive with knowledge of the team's thinking.

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I actually thought that one of these 2 teams would have interest in Holt. Perhaps not.

Anyway, it's an FYI.

 

[Romo2Dez4six]

the two left for FA that I would welcome 1: Holt, this man still has alot in the tank and would be a grreat compliment to Roy...2: Ken Lucus he could give us dept at corner and I don't think he would hurt Jenkins or Scandricks development.

 

[Woods]

the two left for FA that I would welcome 1: Holt, this man still has alot in the tank and would be a grreat compliment to Roy...2: Ken Lucus he could give us dept at corner and I don't think he would hurt Jenkins or Scandricks development.

If JJ was only going to bring in one more player in FA before the Draft,

I am more interested in bringing in another CB rather than WR.

Bringing in both a WR and CB is going to be pretty expensive - if we're talking about guys like Holt and Rolle, for example.

(Assuming JJ still wants to get Ware done this off-season)

 

[AKATheRake]

You guys don't want these hands? I do!!!!

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80d54265&campaign=ec0009

 

[AKATheRake]

Those who wouldn't want Holt on this team clearly understand nothing about football.

This guys is a perfect fit here....would do wonders for our offense.

 

[BehindEnemyLinez]

Hey, if JJ's worried about doing a u-turn on why he got rid of T.O., he could argue that Torry's 3 years younger! Good route runner, good hands, good attitude...the only way I'd be against Holt coming to Dallas would be if he commanded a hefty salary. Hurd & Stanback seem destined to be JAGs and Austin has been injury-prone; why not bring in a durable, consisitent WR to solidify the corps?!