forget every thread you ever read about these two...Roy v Ed Reed

[BigDFan5]

Catch me again when the pain of this season wears off, I have time to breath and collect my thoughts and I don;t have to watch playoff football with out the Cowboys and you will get more like this. Right now the Cowboys clipped my fuse a little short.

no prob i await the day

 

[SDogo]

no prob i await the day

Good news for everyone I'm sure is that I have some things coming up that will take me away from the board for 2 or 3 weeks. By then I'll be so psyched about the draft all will be good.

 

[BigDFan5]

Good news for everyone I'm sure is that I have some things coming up that will take me away from the board for 2 or 3 weeks. By then I'll be so psyched about the draft all will be good.

bring on laron landry!

 

[zrinkill]

since you seem to have telepathy down you shoudl know. i was adding up fantasy scores for the leauge im in and while i was on the site i copied and pasted the names of safeties. i thought of the teams tehy were on, clicked into them copied them, opened up a new post in this thread and one by one put them into it.

Yea ..... ok

 

[smarta5150]

Yea ..... ok

You are still at it. Too much.

Just wait till we have a new DC and a better scheme and they will turn around.

Until then... dog chases tail.

 

[SDogo]

bring on laron landry!

#1 choice but keep an eye out for Eric Weddle if we miss out on Landry

 

[TEK2000]

Jeremy (nyc): Who is the best overall safety in the league? Sean Taylor? Ed Reed? Brian Dawkins? Roy Williams?? Someone else...???

SportsNation KC Joyner: Tough call with mixing FS and SS. I happen to think Dawkins is the best FS and Williams the best SS. Dawkins metrics were down a bit last year but not as much as his fellow secondary members. Williams is an absolute force against the run, which is usually more important for a SS than how he covers.

That's a quote from KC Joyner in an ESPN chat he did back before the 2006 season..... when guys like Pete Prisco were writing articles about how Roy Williams is the most overrated player in the NFL.

 

[zrinkill]

That's a quote from KC Joyner in an ESPN chat he did back before the 2006 season..... when guys like Pete Prisco were writing articles about how Roy Williams is the most overrated player in the NFL.

Wow ...thanks for that Quote man

So much for Joyner saying Roy sucks .....

 

[BigDFan5]

#1 choice but keep an eye out for Eric Weddle if we miss out on Landry

landry will likely be gone unfortunately

 

[zrinkill]

SportsNation KC Joyner: Tough call with mixing FS and SS. I happen to think Dawkins is the best FS and Williams the best SS. Dawkins metrics were down a bit last year but not as much as his fellow secondary members. Williams is an absolute force against the run, which is usually more important for a SS than how he covers.

I got torched for saying the same thing earlier in this thread.

 

[smarta5150]

SportsNation KC Joyner: Tough call with mixing FS and SS. I happen to think Dawkins is the best FS and Williams the best SS. Dawkins metrics were down a bit last year but not as much as his fellow secondary members. Williams is an absolute force against the run, which is usually more important for a SS than how he covers.

I got torched for saying the same thing earlier in this thread.

Its like comparing a Shooting Guard to a Point Guard.

And then these Anti-RW people come in and say... "damn, I wish our Shooting Guard can handle the rock like Steve Nash."

:bang2:

 

[zrinkill]

Its like comparing a Shooting Guard to a Point Guard.

And then these Anti-RW people come in and say... "damn, I wish our Shooting Guard can handle the rock like Steve Nash."

:bang2:

No No .... its the exact same position .....

ask lockandloaded

 

[smarta5150]

No No .... its the exact same position .....

ask lockandloaded

I have another name for him... but I dont wanna get a vacation... or do I?

 

[TEK2000]

More great info from AdamJT13:

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Roy finished with more tackles than he had last season, more interceptions, more than twice as many passes broken up and fewer completions allowed. And he had the same number of quarterback pressures -- even though the coaching staff was much more generous awarding pressures last year than this year.

Roy's only problem this year was that he was involved in allowing eight TD passes (according to STATS LLC.) -- some when he was in man-to-man coverage and some when he was helping someone else (or ran into the ref). In several games, he was involved in allowing only one or two catches -- but one was a TD catch, so people think he had a bad game in coverage. If he had allowed more catches but fewer touchdowns, he'd probably get a lot less criticism than he has gotten.

Adrian Wilson allowed far more catches and more yards, and he had fewer interceptions and PDs, but he allowed "only" six touchdowns, so he escapes criticism. Ed Reed allowed more catches and more yards, had fewer PDs, had the same number of interceptions and allowed six touchdowns. Sean Taylor allowed more catches and more yards, had far fewer interceptions and far fewer PDs, AND he led the league in TD catches allowed -- 11. Taylor also led the league BY FAR in missed tackles with 19, the highest total in the 11 years that STATS has been keeping track of them.

So tell me -- why is Roy the only one of those who is heavily criticized in the media?

 

[DragonCowboy]

Donte whitner
Donavin darius
Rodney Harrison
Troy polamolu
Adrian Wilson
Mike brown
Micheal lewis
Michael boulware
Dawan landry
sean jones
chris hope

id pretty much go wtih these guys over roy on passing downs ss wise. sure was hard to think of them... off the top of my head.

I'm really surprised by this.

I thought there would be a list of 63 safeties. All 31 other starters, and their backups, along with Keith Davis. I'm surprised, I guess you're not as much of a hater as I thought.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Ed Reed has more impact plays than Roy Williams and to think the Cowboys passed on him to take Roy Williams.... I was one of a few that said Ed Reed would be better in the long run and so far I'm correct....

 

[Rack]

Ed Reed has more impact plays than Roy Williams and to think the Cowboys passed on him to take Roy Williams.... I was one of a few that said Ed Reed would be better in the long run and so far I'm correct....

*waits for Adam to come along and post Roys and Reeds stats for FFs, FR's, INTs, Sacks, and TFLs....*

 

[TEK2000]

Ed Reed has more impact plays than Roy Williams and to think the Cowboys passed on him to take Roy Williams.... I was one of a few that said Ed Reed would be better in the long run and so far I'm correct....

Here's your cookie:

http://wiki.coolmon.org/files/cookie.jpg

 

[DragonCowboy]

*waits for Adam to come along and post Roys and Reeds stats for FFs, FR's, INTs, Sacks, and TFLs....*

SEASON STATS:
Roy Williams 2006:

int: 5
sacks: 0
ff: 0
fr: 2


Ed Reed 2006:

int: 5
sacks: 0
ff: 1
fr: 1

seem pretty equal to me.

 

[TEK2000]

Career stats:

Ed Reed:
Sacks: 4
FF: 5
FR: 3
INT: 27
TD's: 4

Roy Williams:
Sacks: 6.5
FF: 9
FR: 7
INT: 17
TD's: 3