Former Bears GM Angelo rates Romo 15th best QB in 2013

[theSHOW]

Link: http://www.thesidelineview.com/colu...ngelo-rates-every-quarterback-2013-nfl-season

"He has a blind spot. His instincts are just average and his accuracy is not consistent enough given the amount of times they let him wing it and that’s what he does...wing it. His mental toughness is suspect and physically he is the danger zone given his two back surgeries."

Here is his list of the Chicago Bears QBs

1. Josh McCown
2. Jay Cutler

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

good read.
thanks for sharing…...

 

[burmafrd]

You want stats? I'm sure you'll find an excuse to overlook them and say thy dont matter. But hey, facts will beat baseless opinions every single time.

1) Since 2010, Romo's quarterback rating in the first 12 minutes of the fourth quarter is 81. In the final 3 minutes it drops to 44...So it's not a myth that he struggles mightily during crunch time and when it matters most.

2) Since 2006 Tony leads the NFL in interceptions when leading in the 4th quarter by 7 points or less with 11. Clutch?

3) Romo has 20 4th quarter comebacks since 2006. 3 of them have come against teams with winning records. Only three times did he comeback to beat a good team in the 4th quarter. Its absolutely ridiculous for people to talk about his great comebacks when they are talking about teams like Cleveland, Minny, or Buffalo....

You like stats?????? Really?????

typical cherry picking. Now why don't you compare Brady and Rodgers and company.

Oh and by the way since they all have better over all teams (since they consistently make the playoffs) you have to factor that in too.
By the way check Rodgers come backs (like three in his entire career!)

 

[burmafrd]

So where do you rank Wilson then? Cause you can't possibly think Romo, whos been in the league for 10+ years and has one playoff win, is better than Russell Wilson.

another one that failed football 101

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Evaluating QB's has never been Angelo's specialty. Same guy that stuck with Rex Grossman as being the franchise QB when everybody and their mother could see he wasn't even starting material.

I kinda see the instinct thing with Romo, but I think his instinct is still better than average. Where I tend to have a problem with Romo is that he will audible into a pass play whenever the defense shows blitz. He will know where to go with the ball with the blitz. But a smart D-Coordinator sets it up by giving up those plays, figuring out where Romo is going with the ball, then further into the game show the blitzes again, but change the coverage or the blitz so they can go right where they know Romo is going with the ball. I think that explains a lot of the late game interceptions. I think Romo definitely has to take the blame, but so does the coaching for allowing the constant audibles into pass plays to happen. I think the one thing I've come away with Garrett's reign as coach is that his big weakness is that he always allows the opponent to dictate what the offense does instead of the other way around.

My bigger issue with Romo this year was that he was simply missing open receivers. He wasn't seeing them this year. Looking at the All-22 tape, Dez was getting open a lot. And the O-Line usually had the protection for it. But it wasn't just Dez, if Romo was in the pocket and a receiver was breaking open deep, Romo wouldn't see them regardless if they were Dez, Williams or Witten. If they did throw it deep to the open receiver, it was usually on an extended play. His accuracy was also off which was bothersome, but not seeing open receivers downfield is a greater concern for me.

Anyway, not in a million years would I rank Newton above Brees based on this year.

And his comments on Matt Ryan are just stupid. Hey, if you take away a quality O-Line, quality running game and quality WR's, you will see a QB's flaws! Thanks Captain Obvious.






YR

 

[CyberB0b]

I know this might make your head explode, but Romo should be ranked where his performance and numbers say he should be ranked.

There is zero tangible evidence as to why Romo's - and ONLY ROMO'S - statistics should be downgraded among his peers. But that's what happens because of silliness driven from the facts that a) he's the Cowboys QB and 2) fans/media stupidly treat QBs like they win/lose games on their own in the ultimate team sport in which they spend over 50% of the game on the sidelines.

Ranking him at 15 is a joke considering he has the 4th-best QB rating EVER and was 8th-best in 2013 despite an abysmal defense that forced him to take far more chances in games than he should've had to take. I'll split the difference and put him at 6, not taking the back injury into account since nobody knows how he'll respond from that.

Another season, another year as a top-10 passer. That's something like 8 straight years. Zero justification whatsoever to rank him OUTSIDE the top 10.

So where do you rank him? I have him somewhere in the 11-12 range. 9-10?

 

[DFWJC]

Liar. Don't bother providing a source to your fraudulent information. I guess when actual facts spit in your face you can just create your own "facts" to counter them.

Here are Romo's 4th quarter QB ratings by season since 2010... feel free to verify these on Romo's nfl.com splits page.

2013: 105.6
2012: 101.2
2011: 104.4
2010: 83.5

So you lied about him having an 81 rating in the first 12 minutes and a 44 rating in the last 3 minutes. Your integrity is shot and you know nothing about football.

Thanks for that.

I knew those stats he was putting out there for the 4th quarter were BS.

 

[Direwolf63]

Romo is who he is, and he is a risk taker. A defense isnt going to stop a naturally ingrained trait that has been cultivated by a clown coaching staff for over half a decade.

I'm sorry, but this is BS

Wow...

You just saw the best defense in the league destroy Peyton Manning and one of the greatest offenses of all time and you want to us this lame argument? You're going to sit there and spew this trash with a straight face? That Tony Romo should have carried a team with possibly the worst defense of all time and certainly the worst defense in this franchise's history to the the playoffs? (Which he almost did by the way.)

I wonder how Troy Aikman would have done with last years defense? Or Roger the Dodger? Or Russel Wilson?

Oh...I forgot. Winning a SB automatically erases all previous mishaps and all future failures.

Get this one man army, Tony Romo should carry this team no matter how bad it is coached, built or performs on the field utter garbage outa here.

Tony Romo is a good QB and those don't grow on trees or fall from the sky right on your lap. Enjoy competent QB play while you can instead of whining about problem # 22 on the starting roster because it won't be getting better when he's gone and for those who preach otherwise please provide previous evidence that Jerry Jones is capable of finding a decent QB in the draft because he hasn't done so yet.

Great, great post right here. Very well said.

 

[Direwolf63]

When we really do have an average QB, we'll know it. Assuming nothing else changes, you'll start to see 5-11 seasons.

Yes sir. 100% correct.
The primary difference between today and the Dave Campo years is Tony Romo.

And Percy, love the stat in your sig as well.

 

[Direwolf63]

The Russell Wilson butthurt is amazing. I guess the Seattle defense gave him a higher QB rating than Romo too..

The fact of the matter is that Romo is going down in history as an IF player.

IF he diddnt bobble the snap
IF Parcells stuck around and cracked the whip
IF he diddnt get saddled with Garrett
IF he had an offensive line turns eventually turns in to
IF he had a defense

The guy is 34,coming off two back surgeries, playing under his 3rd coordinator is 3 seasons, under a lame duck coach, facing a difficult schedule. If he ever wants to be anything more than an IF player or fantasy QB he is almost out of time.

Your right.

So Romo better start learning how to play defensive tackle. He may as well learn to play both the 1 and 3 technique positions since we need both.

And while he's rushing the QB, he can also be that ball hawk safety and his boss Jerry Jones refuses to get. Tony is pretty talented, you know.

 

[LucaBrasi]

I dont think Russell Wilson or Colin Kapernick is better than Big Dumb (what I like to call Roethlisberger), this year or any year for that matter.

 

[Direwolf63]

Evaluating QB's has never been Angelo's specialty. Same guy that stuck with Rex Grossman as being the franchise QB when everybody and their mother could see he wasn't even starting material.

I kinda see the instinct thing with Romo, but I think his instinct is still better than average. Where I tend to have a problem with Romo is that he will audible into a pass play whenever the defense shows blitz. He will know where to go with the ball with the blitz. But a smart D-Coordinator sets it up by giving up those plays, figuring out where Romo is going with the ball, then further into the game show the blitzes again, but change the coverage or the blitz so they can go right where they know Romo is going with the ball. I think that explains a lot of the late game interceptions. I think Romo definitely has to take the blame, but so does the coaching for allowing the constant audibles into pass plays to happen. I think the one thing I've come away with Garrett's reign as coach is that his big weakness is that he always allows the opponent to dictate what the offense does instead of the other way around.

My bigger issue with Romo this year was that he was simply missing open receivers. He wasn't seeing them this year. Looking at the All-22 tape, Dez was getting open a lot. And the O-Line usually had the protection for it. But it wasn't just Dez, if Romo was in the pocket and a receiver was breaking open deep, Romo wouldn't see them regardless if they were Dez, Williams or Witten. If they did throw it deep to the open receiver, it was usually on an extended play. His accuracy was also off which was bothersome, but not seeing open receivers downfield is a greater concern for me.

Anyway, not in a million years would I rank Newton above Brees based on this year.

And his comments on Matt Ryan are just stupid. Hey, if you take away a quality O-Line, quality running game and quality WR's, you will see a QB's flaws! Thanks Captain Obvious.






YR

I think this is a very fair critique of Tony Romo this year. I think his back was a factor in his lack of accuracy this year. But that's only speculation on my part.

And he does audible way too much to me liking.

Despite this, he's still a top 10 QB in my book.

 

[17yearsandcounting]

I'm sorry, but this is BS


Great, great post right here. Very well said.

Parcells said that Romo is the kind of player that you have to keep reeled in because he is such a risk taker.

 

[17yearsandcounting]

Your right.

So Romo better start learning how to play defensive tackle. He may as well learn to play both the 1 and 3 technique positions since we need both.

And while he's rushing the QB, he can also be that ball hawk safety and his boss Jerry Jones refuses to get. Tony is pretty talented, you know.

#1 QB in the league for excuses. You can tell your grandkids what could have been

IF ONLY Tony had.....

 

[Direwolf63]

#1 QB in the league for excuses. You can tell your grandkids what could have been

IF ONLY Tony had.....

People with no leg to stand on reject actual facts and writes them off as excuses. Go for it.

 

[dfense]

He actually isn't lying. If you use Pro Football Reference, this is true. Also, quite a few sites have sourced the information coult provided.

Your stats are also true.

Personally, I feel like anyone can skew stats in their favor. For example, if you go back to 2010, Romo doesn't lead the league in game winning drives. And with the same token, if you skew coult44's 'final 3 minutes' to 'final 4 minutes' the numbers change in Romo's favor.

EDIT: Just so you are aware, the QBR Coult is using is not the standard metric the NFL uses but rather the ESPN metric. ESPN's perfect QBR is 100 and the NFL (the one which I consider official) is 158.3

In my investigation, I found that when former girlfriends are not in attendance, and the game is not on an odd number day, on monday night, and their is a blood moon, Tony has pretty good numbers.

 

[coult44]

Liar. Don't bother providing a source to your fraudulent information. I guess when actual facts spit in your face you can just create your own "facts" to counter them.

Here are Romo's 4th quarter QB ratings by season since 2010... feel free to verify these on Romo's nfl.com splits page.

2013: 105.6
2012: 101.2
2011: 104.4
2010: 83.5

So you lied about him having an 81 rating in the first 12 minutes and a 44 rating in the last 3 minutes. Your integrity is shot and you know nothing about football.

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I'll see your 5 and raise you 20.......Multiple sources

 

[coult44]

Liar. Don't bother providing a source to your fraudulent information. I guess when actual facts spit in your face you can just create your own "facts" to counter them.

Here are Romo's 4th quarter QB ratings by season since 2010... feel free to verify these on Romo's nfl.com splits page.

2013: 105.6
2012: 101.2
2011: 104.4
2010: 83.5

So you lied about him having an 81 rating in the first 12 minutes and a 44 rating in the last 3 minutes. Your integrity is shot and you know nothing about football.

Here's two right off the top of my story list: I'll scan through and find more:
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2013/10/09/romo-has-great-4th-qtr-stats-doesnt-make-him-clutch/

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/12/tony-romo-clutch-dallas-cowboys/

 

[DejectedFan1996]

Just to reiterate, coult's stats are indeed true. Whether it's considered cherry picking or not is a matter of debate but nothing what he stated SSS false.

From @nflnetwork research: Romo has thrown 8 INT in final 5 minutes of 4th quarter when game is within 7 points, most in @nfl last 3 years.
— Andrew Siciliano (@AndrewSiciliano) December 18, 2013

Again you can call it cherry picking but it's factual.

Personally, the list is bogus IMO because Romo is better than Newton and Kaepernick and had better statistical year. However, I also don't believe stats tell the whole story.

I also personally believe that if Romo had Seattles D, he would have won a ring. My personal opinion

 

[noshame]

Just to reiterate, coult's stats are indeed true. Whether it's considered cherry picking or not is a matter of debate but nothing what he stated SSS false.

From @nflnetwork research: Romo has thrown 8 INT in final 5 minutes of 4th quarter when game is within 7 points, most in @nfl last 3 years.
— Andrew Siciliano (@AndrewSiciliano) December 18, 2013

Again you can call it cherry picking but it's factual.

Personally, the list is bogus IMO because Romo is better than Newton and Kaepernick and had better statistical year. However, I also don't believe stats tell the whole story.

I also personally believe that if Romo had Seattles D, he would have won a ring. My personal opinion

Not to mention this ranking of 27th on third downs. Clutch