Former Bears GM Angelo rates Romo 15th best QB in 2013

RXP said:
I think this is a very fair critique of Tony Romo this year. I think his back was a factor in his lack of accuracy this year. But that's only speculation on my part.

And he does audible way too much to me liking.

Despite this, he's still a top 10 QB in my book.
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I would take the following over Romo right now:

Peyton
Brady
Rodgers
Brees
Roethlisberger (he came on nicely in the 2nd half of the season)
Flacco
Andrew Luck
Rivers
Matt Ryan
Cam Newton (mostly because of age and potential)
Colin Kaepernick (mostly because of age and potential)

So he's just outside my top-10.






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Yakuza Rich said:
I would take the following over Romo right now:

Peyton
Brady
Rodgers
Brees
Roethlisberger (he came on nicely in the 2nd half of the season)
Flacco
Andrew Luck
Rivers
Matt Ryan
Cam Newton (mostly because of age and potential)
Colin Kaepernick (mostly because of age and potential)

So he's just outside my top-10.






YR
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I think Wilson is better than Kapernick. He should be on your list and Foles could be on there if he continues to progress.
 
garrett316 said:
I dont think Russell Wilson or Colin Kapernick is better than Big Dumb (what I like to call Roethlisberger), this year or any year for that matter.
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I know a number of folks have already said this, however, I think Wilson is being a bit under-rated here by mane Zoners. Here are reasons why I think he might be something special:
  • 100+ QB rating in his rookie year
  • 100+ QB rating in his 2nd year
  • Highest single season QB rating in NCAA history in senior season at Wisconsin
  • The guy is as cool as a cucumber
  • 57 TDs in his 1st two seasons including 52 passing TDs
  • 3rd player in NFL history to throw for 50+ TDs in his first two season (Marino and Manning are the other)
  • Over 1000+ yards rushing total in his first two season -- a boatload of extra 1st downs
Go look at Bree's or Brady's 1st two years as starters. Neither of them played anywhere as well in their 1st two years as Wilson has.

In summary -- I think the future is exceedingly bright for the Wilson.
 
Yakuza Rich said:
I would take the following over Romo right now:

Peyton
Brady
Rodgers
Brees
Roethlisberger (he came on nicely in the 2nd half of the season)
Flacco
Andrew Luck
Rivers
Matt Ryan
Cam Newton (mostly because of age and potential)
Colin Kaepernick (mostly because of age and potential)

So he's just outside my top-10.






YR
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Flacco?

LOL
 
Yakuza Rich said:
I would take the following over Romo right now:

Peyton
Brady
Rodgers
Brees
Roethlisberger (he came on nicely in the 2nd half of the season)
Flacco
Andrew Luck
Rivers
Matt Ryan
Cam Newton (mostly because of age and potential)
Colin Kaepernick (mostly because of age and potential)

So he's just outside my top-10.






YR
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Why Matt Ryan? Why Phillip Rivers? Why Rapesaburger? Two of them have accomplished no more than Romo has and one has disappeared since his team's talent started to decline.

I put Romo and the first two in the same category. Good quarterback that needs to have a half decent team around him to succeed...just like most every other QB in the league. And I'm happy with that.

The time to start looking for Romo's successor is approaching but it isn't here yet. Next off-season would be when I'd start looking for a potential future starter. This year address the defense, mainly the pass rush, and let's see what happens.
 
perrykemp said:
I know a number of folks have already said this, however, I think Wilson is being a bit under-rated here by mane Zoners. Here are reasons why I think he might be something special:
  • 100+ QB rating in his rookie year
  • 100+ QB rating in his 2nd year
  • Highest single season QB rating in NCAA history in senior season at Wisconsin
  • The guy is as cool as a cucumber
  • 57 TDs in his 1st two seasons including 52 passing TDs
  • 3rd player in NFL history to throw for 50+ TDs in his first two season (Marino and Manning are the other)
  • Over 1000+ yards rushing total in his first two season -- a boatload of extra 1st downs
Go look at Bree's or Brady's 1st two years as starters. Neither of them played anywhere as well in their 1st two years as Wilson has.

In summary -- I think the future is exceedingly bright for the Wilson.
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Wilson is a good QB no doubt about it and the sky is the limit for him but he sure has it made with the coaching staff, running game and defense he has inherited. Not to mention the college like atmosphere he enjoys in Seattle...

Success in this league relies on a great many factors and events all falling into place at the right time. The right coach with the right GM with the right amount of avoided injuries with the right players and the right calls and bounces in the right games. A little bit of skill with a lot of luck which all culminate in an outcome very few players and only one team gets to enjoy on a yearly basis.

It all starts at the top, really. It's the job of the Jerry Joneses to provide the right push and pull at just the right time in order to maximize the chance of the above happening. He did it before but the resulting success resulted in his ego going out of control.

Pride can be a dangerous thing and Jerry hasn't learned that lesson yet. Maybe he will one day though I won't be holding my breath.
 
dragon_mikal said:
Or lead game winning drives.

Oh yea...those don't count unless pigs fly, the sky turns yellow and the Browns win the SB...or some such made up criteria.

We get it. Romo sucks blah blah blah...

Luckily no one important agrees with you and he'll be starting next year. Would you like some cheese with your whine?
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I know he'll start next year but his time is coming to an end. All this era of Cowboy football will be remembered for is lost chances. I like Tony personally but he is what he is.
 
PA Cowboy Fan said:
I know he'll start next year but his time is coming to an end. All this era of Cowboy football will be remembered for is lost chances. I like Tony personally but he is what he is.
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Yeah, and Archie Manning was a total bum. Right?
 
coult44 said:
If you want to argue the stats with the number guys, feel free. I don't create or store them. If I find interesting numbers I'll throw them out there..
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Some much-needed context for the numbers you've thrown out there...

1) Since 2010, Romo's quarterback rating in the first 12 minutes of the fourth quarter is 81. In the final 3 minutes it drops to 44...So it's not a myth that he struggles mightily during crunch time and when it matters most.

Since 2010, Romo's passer rating in the final 3 minutes of the 4th quarter is 72.9. Manning's is 73.6 and Brady's is 70.5. These ratings are normal for this situation. The average for the NFL in the final 3 minutes of the 4th quarter is 71.2.

2) Since 2006 Tony leads the NFL in interceptions when leading in the 4th quarter by 7 points or less with 11. Clutch?

Since 2006, Romo has thrown 9 interceptions when leading in the 4th quarter by 7 points or less. This leads the NFL by one interception--one more than Tom Brady. He has also thrown 20 touchdown passes. 8 more than Brady. These QB have the most attempts in this situation:

Romo 149 of 226 2320 yd 10.3 ypa 20 td 9 int 112.7
PManning 136 of 214 1660 yd 7.8 ypa 10 td 2 int 99.0
Brees 177 of 253 1861 yd 7.4 ypa 9 td 5 int 94.7
Brady 151 of 240 1749 yd 7.3 ypa 12 td 8 int 87.7
Roethlisberger 124 of 214 1511 yd 7.1 ypa 7 td 4 int 82.9

The authors of the articles from which you pulled these two stats left out this information, for whatever reason.
 
perrykemp said:
I know a number of folks have already said this, however, I think Wilson is being a bit under-rated here by mane Zoners. Here are reasons why I think he might be something special:
  • 100+ QB rating in his rookie year
  • 100+ QB rating in his 2nd year
  • Highest single season QB rating in NCAA history in senior season at Wisconsin
  • The guy is as cool as a cucumber
  • 57 TDs in his 1st two seasons including 52 passing TDs
  • 3rd player in NFL history to throw for 50+ TDs in his first two season (Marino and Manning are the other)
  • Over 1000+ yards rushing total in his first two season -- a boatload of extra 1st downs
Go look at Bree's or Brady's 1st two years as starters. Neither of them played anywhere as well in their 1st two years as Wilson has.

In summary -- I think the future is exceedingly bright for the Wilson.
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romo threw for 19 and 36 his first two years that equals many more than 50 , where did you get that stat ?

haha 1000 yards rushing thats embarrassing
 
Pessimist_cowboy said:
romo threw for 19 and 36 his first two years that equals many more than 50 , where did you get that stat ?

haha 1000 yards rushing thats embarrassing
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Romo threw for 0 Touchdowns his first two years in the NFL.

Why would Wilson's 1000 yards rushing in addition to throwing for 50+ TDs and 100+ QB rating in his 1st two seasons warrant a "HAHA" and a "that' embarrassing" from you?

What's embarrassing about getting your team a ton of extra 1st downs in addition to being a good passer?
 
Denim Chicken said:
1. Peyton
2. Brady
3. Rodgers
4. Luck
5. Brees
6. Romo

Based on who I think would do better if you simply swapped them with Romo.
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Some say..."Manziel would top this list"

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perrykemp said:
I know a number of folks have already said this, however, I think Wilson is being a bit under-rated here by mane Zoners. Here are reasons why I think he might be something special:
  • 100+ QB rating in his rookie year
  • 100+ QB rating in his 2nd year
  • Highest single season QB rating in NCAA history in senior season at Wisconsin
  • The guy is as cool as a cucumber
  • 57 TDs in his 1st two seasons including 52 passing TDs
  • 3rd player in NFL history to throw for 50+ TDs in his first two season (Marino and Manning are the other)
  • Over 1000+ yards rushing total in his first two season -- a boatload of extra 1st downs
Go look at Bree's or Brady's 1st two years as starters. Neither of them played anywhere as well in their 1st two years as Wilson has.

In summary -- I think the future is exceedingly bright for the Wilson.
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since 2010
Pass rating in losses
(active players)
1 Romo 91.5
2 Rodgers 90.6
3 PManning 86.1
4 Roethlisberger 83.8

30 Wilson 72.8


Pass rating when trailing in 2nd half
(active players with 150+ attempts)
1 Rodgers 106.8
2 Romo 104.7
3 PManning 104.7
4 Brady 98.9

23 Wilson 81.2


Pass attempts per game of above players
PManning 40.0
Romo 37.5
Brady 37.0
Roethlisberger 34.6
Rodgers 33.1

Wilson 25.0


Rank of their teams in total pass attempts, 2012-13
4 New England
5 Denver
7 Dallas
13 Pittsburgh
15 Green Bay

32 Seattle


Wilson is a good young QB, but the team you play for does make a difference.
 
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