Free Agent DL

[MichaelWinicki]

You can't make guys take less. It just kind of worked out that way for SEA. That year's DE market was an anomaly I believe.

The Pats definitely get guys to give that hometown or going to the Super Bowl discount. Revis will probably play for half price next year since he got that ring.

There are always "bargains" to be had, once the first 3-4 days of free agency pass.

 

[waving monkey]

lots of talent on that list maybe that effects the price?

 

[Toruk_Makto]

You may have to spend, but you do not have to over spend.

Seahawks didn't overspend for Avril & Bennett.

The very top guys like Suh and Hughes will be overpaid. But there will be other guys like Fairly, Paea and Sheard who'll get better valued contracts (from the club's perspective).

Way to cherry pick the cheap veteran deals that worked. 9 times out of 10 those deals lead to average or worse play. See Melton, Henry.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Just a couple of my thoughts

JPP – Scares me. He's young, but the injuries he's suffered the last few years make me believe we won't be elite again.

Suh – Great player, worth what ever money he signs for, but I don't think I want to be the one to shell it out.

Hardy – Personally I think he won't be found innocent, so until he is, I'm not considering him

McPhee – Yea, I think he'll be more affordable, so if Baltimore doesn't resign him, I think it would be a good move.

Sheard – production has dropped every season, pass.

Hughes – Did the other 3 super talented guys on his DL cause his success? yes they did....pass

Brandon Graham - I could go with him, but a LDE at 6 feet is asking for trouble.

Orakpo – Over rated, pass

George Johnson – if he signs for back up money, why not. but as a starter, no, unless we sign Suh and Fairley as a package deal.

Adrian Clayborn – If he's cheap, why not. But his history indicates you can't count on him to stay healthy.

Tyson Alualu - Depends on the price, I know he hasn't played the 1, but I'd try him there.

Da'Quan Bowers – Pass

B.J. Raji – Pass

Ngata – Pass

Stephen Paea – Has value as a 1 tech or 3 tech, so I'd be interested, but not for huge money.

Nick Fairley – Pass

Devon Still – Restricted FA....Pass

Dan Williams – Pass

Sione Fua – Pass

Jared Odrick – Loved him coming out of college and would love to add him. Can excel at the 1 tech or 3 tech.

Terrance Knighton – Pass

Kenrick Ellis – Pass

Ray McDonald – Pass

Jason Worilds – Pass

Arthur Moats – Pass

Justin Houston – Highly likely to get franchised....Pass

 

[Manwiththeplan]

I don't care what they do as long as they add better guys than what the Cowboys currently have at either DT or DE and don't pay a king's ransom.

Think what Seattle did with Arvil and Bennett two years ago.

This is extremely unlikely to happen. Both players signed very short deals for below market value, with the hope that on a great defense they would perform well enough to get bigger deals. You almost never see players do that.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Way to cherry pick the cheap veteran deals that worked. 9 times out of 10 those deals lead to average or worse play. See Melton, Henry.

What the team paid to Melton was a Pittance... And he gave them 5 sacks.

Henry wasn't a car wreck.

Mincey was a terrific bargain.

Spending a ton on a FA doesn't guarantee anything either, i.e.Carr, Haynesworth.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

This is extremely unlikely to happen. Both players signed very short deals for below market value, with the hope that on a great defense they would perform well enough to get bigger deals. You almost never see players do that.

Melton says hello.

Mincey was sort of in the same boat.

Yes, those contracts do exist and after not being signed in the first few days of free agency, the asking price of most of these guys will come way down.

 

[LatinMind]

You may have to spend, but you do not have to over spend.

Seahawks didn't overspend for Avril & Bennett.

The very top guys like Suh and Hughes will be overpaid. But there will be other guys like Fairly, Paea and Sheard who'll get better valued contracts (from the club's perspective).

They also werent the names of of Suh or Hughes and def werent the production of these players. Not even close. In Bennets first 4 yrs in the league he had 15 sacks and 9 of them were in his contract yr. Avril had some decent production but not on Suhs level. Never had the impact he had. I can see him in the same level as hughes tho. I can see Hughes getting a deal in the same avg yr basis as avril but a longer deal 5 yrs 37.5mil from buffalo.

 

[NorthTexan95]

I expect McClay to sign one, maybe two, bargins, as he did last year with Terrell McClain and Mincey.

 

[LatinMind]

I expect McClay to sign one, maybe two, bargins, as he did last year with Terrell McClain and Mincey.

McPhee will be moderately priced, nothing over the top. And i can see Spencer back at or near the vet min. Wouldnt not be mad at all of that SDE combo, and add in Gardner.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Melton says hello.

Mincey was sort of in the same boat.

Yes, those contracts do exist and after not being signed in the first few days of free agency, the asking price of most of these guys will come way down.

Melton was coming off injury and Mincey wasn't the level of player. These guys were the #1 & #2 DEs and were both healthy

 

[DC Cowboy]

1. Hardy- with a caveat that if he is acquitted of course. Best DE on the market imo
2. Fairley- would a be a good 1T
3. Sheard- good value signing
4. Orakpo- another low risk high potential guy at the right contract
5. Clayborn- if he checks out physically of course.

1,2, and 4 if we could get cap friendly contracts

 

[pancakeman]

lots of talent on that list maybe that effects the price?

Seems like that would be the case. But every team that's losing a good lineman is another competing buyer in the market for good linemen.

 

[SkinsandTerps]

I think Hardy will be reasonable...I just don't think you know the maturity level of this guy.

I hope the Commanders have no interest in his off-field antics.
This guy has been partying all season since he was getting paid and not working. He should have just focused on his craft, and focus on staying out of the limelight with his on-going legal issues.

Seemed like he didn't have a care in the world. Popping bottles all season. Seems like the clock is ticking until he gets into something else.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Melton was coming off injury and Mincey wasn't the level of player. These guys were the #1 & #2 DEs and were both healthy

There will be some talented defensive linemen left for Dallas to choose from who aren't going to cost the farm.

 

[Sandyf]

I'm probably on the other side of the discussion on what Dallas will do in free agency. I look at it a bit differently. I believe that the draft is the way to build but also believe that Dallas is going to take the top guy on their board at 27 or trade down. Just don't believe it will necessary be a defense guy. Looking so far at the draft, it doesn't look to me their are many immediate impact guys that will be possibly available to us in either the 1st or 2nd round. Sure a guy could fall but you can't bank on it.

Also, this is so far one of the best free agent crop we have seen in quite a while. Some will resign, some will be franchised but overall it is going to be a good free agency period. The Cowboys are in good shape with the cap, at least before any signing of our own. Who we sign of our own is just mire speculation at this point.

The point for me is that we are going to improve the defense and I believe it is going to be in the form of someone(s) that can generate sacks and pressures on the QB. Personally, I don't believe any draft pick is going to be the answer, at least not right away.

So I believe we are going to be bigger players in free agency than most believe in the form of a DE, CB and then DT and/or possibly a OLB depending on who we sign of our own.

DE Hardy – will possibly know before March 10th his status but could see him as a cornerstone guy.
DE McPhee – could be a real sleeper that is great for a 4-3 but not breaking the bank for him.
DE Brandon Graham - was a very good 4-3 DE in college, wants to go back to 4-3, for the right contract I would sign him.
DE Orakpo – would like him over signing say Spencer back but only on a "show me" deal, to many injuries.
DE George Johnson – is he really starter material or a great backup.
DE Adrian Clayborn – only sign him to a short contract with big incentives.
DT Tyson Alualu - could see him as a quick 1-tech but not my 1st choice.
DT Stephen Paea – seems like a Marinelli guy and could flourish here.
DT Nick Fairley – great talent, limited mind, could Marinelli and Calvin Hill turn him the right way.
DT Devon Still – although a RFA, believe he is a no compensation sign because eventhough drafted in the 2nd was cut and went unclaimed and then signed to the PS, not sure on this but going to check closer, could have a huge upside.

I would go after Hardy (depending trial outcome) 1st, then McPhee and still sign Orakpo to a high incentive contract. On the DT front, Fairley would be the 1st choice after a Hill assessment, then Paea, then Still. Would like to have 2 DEs and one DT. Also if Davon House isn't resigned by Green bay at CB, I would go after him.

Long way to go before we see anything though.

 

[jjktkk]

I guess nobody is even thinking for a second that Paea's career year had anything to do with his impending free agency?

I just hope Marinelli is not half as naïve.

No, just you Alexander. No fan, coach, gm, etc... could possibly have the foresight, in regards to signing a potential free agent.

 

[jjktkk]

I don't think Dallas considers a FA 1T and only a 3T if they are an extreme value.
DE they either resign some guys who did nothing last year or look to the market for an answer.
Maybe they do a little of both and bring say Spencer back but add a Jerry Hughes or Brandan Graham also.

I would think just one of these possible free agent signings will happen, along with Dallas drafting a DE..

 

[BlindFaith]

Derrick Morgan, Jason Worilds or Pernell McPhee as potential ends. All are currently 3-4 OLB but capable of moving to end.

 

[xwalker]

I'm probably on the other side of the discussion on what Dallas will do in free agency. I look at it a bit differently. I believe that the draft is the way to build but also believe that Dallas is going to take the top guy on their board at 27 or trade down. Just don't believe it will necessary be a defense guy. Looking so far at the draft, it doesn't look to me their are many immediate impact guys that will be possibly available to us in either the 1st or 2nd round. Sure a guy could fall but you can't bank on it.

Also, this is so far one of the best free agent crop we have seen in quite a while. Some will resign, some will be franchised but overall it is going to be a good free agency period. The Cowboys are in good shape with the cap, at least before any signing of our own. Who we sign of our own is just mire speculation at this point.

The point for me is that we are going to improve the defense and I believe it is going to be in the form of someone(s) that can generate sacks and pressures on the QB. Personally, I don't believe any draft pick is going to be the answer, at least not right away.

So I believe we are going to be bigger players in free agency than most believe in the form of a DE, CB and then DT and/or possibly a OLB depending on who we sign of our own.

DE Hardy – will possibly know before March 10th his status but could see him as a cornerstone guy.
DE McPhee – could be a real sleeper that is great for a 4-3 but not breaking the bank for him.
DE Brandon Graham - was a very good 4-3 DE in college, wants to go back to 4-3, for the right contract I would sign him.
DE Orakpo – would like him over signing say Spencer back but only on a "show me" deal, to many injuries.
DE George Johnson – is he really starter material or a great backup.
DE Adrian Clayborn – only sign him to a short contract with big incentives.
DT Tyson Alualu - could see him as a quick 1-tech but not my 1st choice.
DT Stephen Paea – seems like a Marinelli guy and could flourish here.
DT Nick Fairley – great talent, limited mind, could Marinelli and Calvin Hill turn him the right way.
DT Devon Still – although a RFA, believe he is a no compensation sign because eventhough drafted in the 2nd was cut and went unclaimed and then signed to the PS, not sure on this but going to check closer, could have a huge upside.

I would go after Hardy (depending trial outcome) 1st, then McPhee and still sign Orakpo to a high incentive contract. On the DT front, Fairley would be the 1st choice after a Hill assessment, then Paea, then Still. Would like to have 2 DEs and one DT. Also if Davon House isn't resigned by Green bay at CB, I would go after him.

Long way to go before we see anything though.

Nice breakdown.