From Julius Jones Himself: "He had me running like a robot"

[STSINAZ]

i think that jerrah will use both picks to trade up and get mcfadden if he has to....

 

[DallasEast]

I agree with everything Jones is saying, but I should never have heard or read it. This is the last year for you to prove yourself, Julius. The end. Not even injury can be used as an excuse anymore. Play through the pain if you have to. Shine in spite of sharing snaps with Barber. You were drafted to be "the man". Step up.

 

[Doomsday101]

It seems like everyone has the case of the exaggeration flu.

All I heard JJ say was he ran a little more robotic under Parcells than he would have liked. That is all. He didn't denigrate the coach in anyway. He didn't call him a fat turd, or an old school coach whose time has passed.

It seems like the members of the board are letting their opinions of JJ get in the way of looking objectively at his comments.

To me, JJ has been a class act his entire stay in Dallas. I don't understand some of the vitriol he gets from some fans.

I would agree. I think Jones is a good guy but I still expect more than I have seen from our starting RB. Hate or any other feeling has nothing to do with anything it is about being more productive and more consistant. If he can do that then great if not I would hope Dallas will continue to look for a big time RB and I do think that is critical to get back to the SB

 

[aikemirv]

It seems like everyone has the case of the exaggeration flu.

All I heard JJ say was he ran a little more robotic under Parcells than he would have liked. That is all. He didn't denigrate the coach in anyway. He didn't call him a fat turd, or an old school coach whose time has passed.

It seems like the members of the board are letting their opinions of JJ get in the way of looking objectively at his comments.

To me, JJ has been a class act his entire stay in Dallas. I don't understand some of the vitriol he gets from some fans.

I think this is why you heard it from JJ also. Everything you do in this day and age is scrutinized to a high degreee and JJ has taken a beating this year by not only a lot of fans but media saying MBIII should be starting.

Thus, he lashes out a bit. Not saying that was the right thing to do but I understand his frustrations.

What he said just puts more pressure on him to perform, kinda like a contract year situation which he has also.

If JJ can't perform this year, he never will, he has everything to gain!!!!

 

[zrinkill]

that would be smart,when he has Barber right on his heels. Welcome to BP's doghouse. I have said all along BP screwed him up. I have tape from his rookie year,remember the giants game! Parcells tried to make him another Curtis Martin. He is an instinctive runner who needs to use his vision. He would run where the play was developed with both hands wrapped around the ball,because he was afraid of fumbling" then come down at first contact because he has no balance with 2 hands on the ball. Well let's see how he plays this year,the handcuffs are off and let's see if he puts up. I feel this way with a couple of players on this team.

This has nothing to do with if Bill did or did not mess up JJ's game ..... the point is that if JJ was not man enouth to stand up to Bill while he was here .... there is no reason to try and blame him when he is gone ....

I have no doubt that Bill over coached JJ ...... he was obviously worried more about not messing up than making a big play ....

My problem with this is that he does not have to say anything ..... just play better this year and everyone will know what happened ...

anyway ..... here is to JJ having that break out season we have been waiting for .... now that he has made these claims, no more excuses will be allowed.

 

[iceberg]

It is incredible the way that the underachievers all come out of the woodwork to offer their hypothesis how one of the greatest football coaches ever just stifled their "game" and rendered them shells of their talented selves. It is nauseating and classless the way these players are behaving.

well since parcells never won a playoff game, it's not like he OVERACHIEVED, now is it?

i'm even more amazed at how many people will lay down life and limb to defend parcells from any possible critisizm he earned while in dallas.

it's pretty sickening also you can't talk about some faults of parcells w/o a parcells croney coming along to discredit any possible critisizm.

 

[InmanRoshi]

I can just hear the excuses next offseason, after another disappointing year of Julius's mediocrity.

"Seriously guys, we NEED to resign him! It takes about a year for the coached up roboticness of his running style to go away! We will RUE THE DAY!!!!!"

Oh I can hear it now. Vomit. Vomit. Vomit.

 

[Alexander]

well since parcells never won a playoff game, it's not like he OVERACHIEVED, now is it?

i'm even more amazed at how many people will lay down life and limb to defend parcells from any possible critisizm he earned while in dallas.

it's pretty sickening also you can't talk about some faults of parcells w/o a parcells croney coming along to discredit any possible critisizm.

Coach Parcells actually achieved something. He has two rings on his fingers.

What has Julius Jones done?

Or is this a situation where it only counts what you have done recently when doling out praise or "critisizm"?

Jones has not built up the points. Ever.

No rushing titles. No Pro Bowls. Nothing.

Forgive me if I find your weak argument more than a little childish and boring.

 

[aikemirv]

Oh I can hear it now. Vomit. Vomit. Vomit.

Since you guys continue to ignore what BP told him to do we will continue to ignore his bad games and mediocre stats.

It is a nice balance. One extreme offsetting another. We are forced to do this obviously because neither of us can be right in each others eyes. It can't be a combination of both. One has to be right and one has to be wrong.

Life on a message board I guess

 

[superpunk]

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[Doomsday101]

Since you guys continue to ignore what BP told him to do we will continue to ignore his bad games and mediocre stats.

It is a nice balance. One extreme offsetting another. We are forced to do this obviously because neither of us can be right in each others eyes. It can't be a combination of both. One has to be right and one has to be wrong.

Life on a message board I guess

So none of this is Jones fault? It was all BP. Last I saw Parcells was not the one running up his lineman’s butt and neither did Barber who BP coached the only one I saw doing that and missing holes was Jones but he has no responsibility in this? Sorry I don't think Parcells ever told any RB to miss the hole, go down easy or run up his linemans butt. Jones can't depend on hugh holes to run through all the time as a RB he has to get yardage off his own skills and he has not done that.

 

[aikemirv]

So none of this is Jones fault? It was all BP. Last I saw Parcells was not the one running up his lineman’s butt and neither did Barber who BP coached the only one I saw doing that and missing holes was Jones but he has no responsibility in this? Sorry I don't think Parcells ever told any RB to miss the hole, go down easy or run up his linemans butt. Jones can't depend on hugh holes to run through all the time as a RB he has to get yardage off his own skills and he has not done that.

Doomsday, you are a bit smarter than that I know. I said what I said in jest, I think that is easy to see.

The one extreme says that JJ rookie year was an abberation and that he is just mediocre and you can't blame BP for coaching his instincts out of him.

The other extreme says that JJ is a great, awesome back that has been neutered by BP. I think it is certainly somewhere inbetween. What gets me is that the extreme say it has nothing to do with BP's coaching. Like I said it is just life on the message boards.

Oh, and by the way. I want to see the clips of JJ running into linemans rearends and missing holes his rookie year. Can you please provide them because there was no talk of that his rookie year if I remember correctly.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

This has nothing to do with if Bill did or did not mess up JJ's game ..... the point is that if JJ was not man enouth to stand up to Bill while he was here

We don't know if Julius was man enough to stand up to Parcells or not. For all we know, Julius may have expressed exactly how he felt and Parcells responded "Shut up" like he always does. I'm not blaming Parcells or completely letting Julius off the hook. I'm just saying that things happen away from the media that we don't know about. When Julius says he was overcoached, this is probably his honest assessment of what took place under Parcells. His assessment could be right or it could be wrong. We shall see.

 

[zrinkill]

We don't know if Julius was man enough to stand up to Parcells or not. For all we know, Julius may have expressed exactly how he felt and Parcells responded "Shut up" like he always does. I'm not blaming Parcells or completely letting Julius off the hook. I'm just saying that things happen away from the media that we don't know about. When Julius says he was overcoached, this is probably his honest assessment of what took place under Parcells. His assessment could be right or it could be wrong. We shall see.

I agree ...... but the players that Parcells was closest too in his career where the ones who were not scared to stand up to him .....

LT (they got in a fist fight)
Keyshawn
Brian Cox
the list goes on and on ....

Now AB was different because he threw his shirt and walked away ..... thats a punk move.

 

[zeromaster]

Coach Parcells actually achieved something. He has two rings on his fingers.

What has Julius Jones done?

Or is this a situation where it only counts what you have done recently when doling out praise or "critisizm"?

Jones has not built up the points. Ever.

No rushing titles. No Pro Bowls. Nothing.

Forgive me if I find your weak argument more than a little childish and boring.

And the NFL is all about 'what have you done for me lately'.

In Parcells case, it was improvement in the talent pool. But his rings brought no playoff success here. Let him wax philosophical on TV; ironic that the tuna wanted fire from his players, but in the end, his was gone.

 

[Alexander]

Oh, and by the way. I want to see the clips of JJ running into linemans rearends and missing holes his rookie year. Can you please provide them because there was no talk of that his rookie year if I remember correctly.

We also had a completely different blocking scheme at that time.

That could have an effect. If blocks are not held very long (and that is something we do much differently under Sparano), a runner who relies on elusiveness will struggle because he has less time to make decisions. Barber is a very decisive runner and he looks far more comfortable.

We don't hold blocks very long and Coach Parcells wanted the runners to make decisions quickly. Jones makes the decision and often makes the wrong one, leading to running up the backs of linemen.

Just another hypothesis to throw out there as this one has about played itself out.

 

[Hoov]

We also had a completely different blocking scheme at that time.

That could have an effect. If blocks are not held very long (and that is something we do much differently under Sparano), a runner who relies on elusiveness will struggle because he has less time to make decisions. Barber is a very decisive runner and he looks far more comfortable.

We don't hold blocks very long and Coach Parcells wanted the runners to make decisions quickly. Jones makes the decision and often makes the wrong one, leading to running up the backs of linemen.

Just another hypothesis to throw out there as this one has about played itself out.

I read in sports index last week, a comment that said the cowboys would abandon the zone blocking scheme this year and go back to man on man power blocking under wade.

 

[Alexander]

I read in sports index last week, a comment that said the cowboys would abandon the zone blocking scheme this year and go back to man on man power blocking under wade.

It makes sense with the acquisition of Davis.

Personally, I think that change might help Jones. But of course, it will probably be attributed to him escaping the clutches of Bill Parcells' devious machinations intended to destroy his career.

 

[BouncingCheese]

We also had a completely different blocking scheme at that time.

That could have an effect. If blocks are not held very long (and that is something we do much differently under Sparano), a runner who relies on elusiveness will struggle because he has less time to make decisions. Barber is a very decisive runner and he looks far more comfortable.

We don't hold blocks very long and Coach Parcells wanted the runners to make decisions quickly. Jones makes the decision and often makes the wrong one, leading to running up the backs of linemen.

Just another hypothesis to throw out there as this one has about played itself out.

I think Barber looks more decisive because in reality he has no elusiveness to speak of, so he has no choice but to go the hole strong. JJ is a picky running back. He hates running behind fullbacks, and he dislikes running behind the specified hole on the play; he would rather wait until the play develops as he gets to the line as a cutback runner. But we knew that when we drafted him. Why are we trying to get a tiger to change his stripes? Cutback runners are going to lose yards in the hopes of gaining 50; Look at Barry Sanders, He lost like more than 2,000 yards trying to run around to try to create positive yarsd out of nothing.

I think now that BP is gone, JJ will look more comfortable doing his thing; he may fumble more, but at least he will be doing what is most comfortable to him. I like Barber, but JJ can do certain things in terms of bieng elusive (not counting this pastyear, and maybe season before that) that Barber wishes he could.

I am not saying JJ will have 1,500 yards, but I think he will not look like an action figure when running.

 

[superpunk]

It makes sense with the acquisition of Davis.

Personally, I think that change might help Jones. But of course, it will probably be attributed to him escaping the clutches of Bill Parcells' devious machinations intended to destroy his career.

I mentioned it to Hoov yesterday, and I've mentioned it in several posts before this. You want to give me a reason Julius is going to get better next year? Make it the above. At least a change in blocking scheme is something tangible, and doesn't rely on fabricated "overcoaching" hocus-pocus.

The audacity of Bill Parcells to reinforce the notion that negative runs are to be avoided. For the love of pete!

Here is what Parcells ACTUALLY mentioned he had discussed with Julius.

"it's happened to every RB in the history of this game it gets a little sticky. I said and sometimes you just gotta be your own blocker. And just somehow manage to rip off one of those big runs, or a good run, where they all see it, all the linemen see it, everybody sees it and it just gets everybody excited and thats what the good ones can do.....But sometimes you can just as an individual runner you can just make that one guy miss or just run thru some tackles somewhere and all of a sudden the whole landscape changes. I've seen it happen. I've seen it happen on a 3rd and 1 play where a guy got hit in the backfield and managed to get the first down. I've seen it change the whole dynamic of a season for a team, right there that one thing. Get hit smack in the backfield, spun off, run over another guy and made the first down"

Does that sound like a man who is discouraging being elusive, discouraging improvization? Knowing when to call it quits is alot different that being a robot, so I'd appreciate an end to this bull**** theory that Parcells was against Julius doing anything other than what the play called for. He BLATANTLY encouraged Julius to make something happen.

Julius has just been incapable.

So if you want an excuse for him (anyone), use a possible change to a power attack. We used the zone blocking scheme in 2004, too - when Julius had his best games against the league's most pathetic defenses, but don't let that stop any of you from sounding the "THIS IS THE YEAR" trumpets.

Rue the day, indeed.