FWIW Schefter talks T.O. on Dan Patrick show this AM

[Stash]

So he benched him the one opportunity he had............softy.

I'd say he had more than one...

 

[Bob Sacamano]

You picked a bad time in history to try to prove the 'receivers don't matter' mantra.

that's not my mantra

my mantra that the success of our team falling on whether TO is on the team or not is ridiculous, esp. when we have a fine receiver in his own right in Roy Williams already

I'm only pointing out that teams have won Super Bowls w/o receivers the caliber of TO

 

[SLATEmosphere]

It's like the same 3-4 people going back and forth here..you guys should just PM each other

 

[khiladi]

*** are you talking about? this isn't about Garrett and when have I ever defended him?

You said RW was following suit in bashing Garrett...

Roy WIlliams has been pretty outspoken even in Detroit...

The only reason he probably waited until the season was over was because he was new to the franchise..

 

[Dave_in-NC]

I agree.

And that proves my point about what the real problems are around here.

Jones, Phillips, and Garrett are either unable or unwilling to deal with their players in the manner they need to.

I don't know if that goes for all the players or a certain few. Jones dealt with Bennett pretty quick and more severe than I thought he would.

Phillips won't tangle with owens. Garrett wants to ( I respect him as a player)but won't because of JJ IMOP.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

I'd say he had more than one...

Was he the coach during all that stuff or was he gone? I can't remember.

 

[Arch Stanton]

60/40 he's gone in the next 2 weeks.

So the cat farts and khiladi disappears into the distance?

 

[wileedog]

Sigh.

It costs 600 grand IN ADDITION to his current contract of nearly 9 million dollars.

It is NOT like we can cut TO, and its only 600 grand against the cap. its his full salary plus the 600 grand. It would cost us almost 10 million to cut him.

Uh, that's what I said. Notice the *MORE* and the part about Jerry swallowing 9 million to play on another team.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

They had one miraculous catch from Tyree, with Eli manning doing some miraculous avoidance of a sack, and an easy pic dropped by Asnte Samuel that would have been returned all the way to end-zone... Liek I said, that was the game of their lives....

it kind of was the game of their lives, it was the Super Bowl

I just find it funny that some of the most potent offenses of all time that had Randy Moss on the roster haven't won the Super Bowl

as well as the fact that since Belichick introduced the fact of playing finesse offenses tough (their 1st Super Bowl against the Rams), hasn't resulted in a finesse offense winning a Super Bowl since

9 times out of 10, it most likely wouldn't have happened. The Patriots put up 38 points the game prior.

but it did happen

let's deal with what happened, and not with what-if's

So why didn't Roy WIlliams produce this year, when teams made an effort to take out TO, not Roy?

bad routes, no repoire with Romo, and Garrett being a ******

Top WRs improve the odds dramatically... They help more than they hurt, TO included...

no, they don't

 

[Stash]

that's not my mantra

my mantra that the success of our team falling on whether TO is on the team or not is ridiculous, esp. when we have a fine receiver in his own right in Roy Williams already

I'm only pointing out that teams have won Super Bowls w/o receivers the caliber of TO

As has been pointed out, under Jason Garrett, Roy Williams did nothing as this team's #2 receiver.

So many of us lack faith that he would develop into the team's #1 under the aforementioned Jason Garrett.

And I for one am not blaming that on Roy Williams.

Recent history shows that the teams that make the Super Bowl do have quality wide receivers.

Both teams in this year's game did, as did both last season.

The Bears of '07 are an exception but they in fact lost the Super Bowl to the Colts who had two of the best.

 

[DuaneThomas71]

I would like to know who was primarily responsible for eroding the relationship between Mariucci and Owens AND when the division primarily between the two started? Do you know the answers, iJordanTaber?

You have to be the most grating poster in the history of the world, DallasYeastinfection.

Seriously, the underlines and italicized words are beyond overkill, but the smilies make me fantasize about seeing you slide down a razor banister.

But anyway, while I'm not sure what this "iJordanTaber" business is all about, I'm also not sure exactly what you're even trying to say...or are you just asking me because you don't know yourself?

I don't know who is primarily responsible for eroding anything. I suspect Owens resented Mooch after Mooch suspended him for the star incident. That makes sense.

Whatever the "erosion" was, it apparently wasn't enough to prevent them from having an adequate working relationship.

What does this have to do with what's going on here, anyway? Is there some sort of relationship strain between Owens and Jason Garrett we're supposed to be concerned about? You know, the one that is supposed so bad they can't work together, but somehow, Tony Romo made far more severe criticisms to the press about Garrett, yet the two of them should have no problems making up?

 

[Clove]

It will be interesting to see Witten & Williams double teamed this year if TO is cut.

If you thought Romo sucked this past year, get ready for the number 1 pick in the draft next year.

 

[Hostile]

So the cat farts and khiladi disappears into the distance?

It was meant to be "Hang on for dear life."

I thought the news would blow people away.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

You have to be the most grating poster in the history of the world, DallasYeastinfection.

Seriously, the underlines and italicized words are beyond overkill, but the smilies make me fantasize about seeing you slide down a razor banister.

Oh, irony... There you go biting someone in the arse again.

But anyway, while I'm not sure what this "iJordanTaber" business is all about

 

[Stash]

I don't know if that goes for all the players or a certain few. Jones dealt with Bennett pretty quick and more severe than I thought he would.

I think the Bennett situation is a different matter. His infraction didn't involve coaches or comments, but stupidity.

Phillips won't tangle with owens. Garrett wants to ( I respect him as a player)but won't because of JJ IMOP.

And if that is true, it shows where this team's dysfunction truly lies.

And it's not with Owens.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

I would like to know who was primarily responsible for eroding the relationship between Mariucci and Owens AND when the division primarily between the two started? Do you know the answers, i[/B]JordanTaber?

Damn, I didn't think of that.

 

[Stash]

Was he the coach during all that stuff or was he gone? I can't remember.

Me neither.

And I was too lazy to look it up!

 

[1fisher]

Smarty pants

LOL....that one was too easy!

 

[Arch Stanton]

It was meant to be "Hang on for dear life."

I thought the news would blow people away.

Oh ok, I think I like my version better.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

As has been pointed out, under Jason Garrett, Roy Williams did nothing as this team's #2 receiver.

So many of us lack faith that he would develop into the team's #1 under the aforementioned Jason Garrett.

And I for one am not blaming that on Roy Williams.

Recent history shows that the teams that make the Super Bowl do have quality wide receivers.

Both teams in this year's game did, as did both last season.

The Bears of '07 are an exception but they in fact lost the Super Bowl to the Colts who had two of the best.

we can go back and forth and point out which Super Bowl winners didn't have did have great receivers, so I will just say this

we're not giving up anything getting rid of TO

it's not like we're forfeiting playoff wins

and has been pointed out before, we have the potential to run a more effective offense, one that puts more emphasis on the running game, if we don't have both Roy and TO as WRs

having both Roy and TO assures us of the crappy, Garrett, vertical offense