FWIW Schefter talks T.O. on Dan Patrick show this AM

[khiladi]

it kind of was the game of their lives, it was the Super Bowl

I just find it funny that some of the most potent offenses of all time that had Randy Moss on the roster haven't won the Super Bowl

as well as the fact that since Belichick introduced the fact of playing finesse offenses tough (their 1st Super Bowl against the Rams), hasn't resulted in a finesse offense winning a Super Bowl since

but it did happen

let's deal with what happened, and not with what-if's

bad routes, no repoire with Romo, and Garrett being a ******

no, they don't

The Rams had two of the best WRs to play the game in the 90s. The Giants had Plaxico Burress... This year without Burress, they lost to the Eagles in the first round, despite their defense. Every team that has won the Super Bowl had star-quality WRs... It is why the Patriots and Bellichek went out and got Randy Moss...

 

[Hostile]

Oh ok, I think I like my version better.

Book it.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

I think the Bennett situation is a different matter. His infraction didn't involve coaches or comments, but stupidity.



And if that is true, it shows where this team's dysfunction truly lies.

And it's not with Owens.

Maybe I'm just old school and feel players shouldn't take advantage of bad situations. owens knows he's Jerry's boy and he can say what he wants.
That is the real problem.

 

[khiladi]

I will just say this

we're not giving up anythign getting rid of TO

it's not like we're forfeiting playoff wins

and has been pointed out before, we have the potential to run a more effective offense, one that puts more emphasis on the running game, if we don't have both Roy and TO as WRs, including Witten

Again, the Panther's had the number 3 rushing attack and Steve Smith was the number 3 receiver in the league. I am sure TO understands that a rushing game will only improve his statistics, considering football is his way of life. TO did not force Garrett to abandon the run. Wasn't it TO that gave the nickname to Marion? Isn't it TO celebrating with Barber when Barber does some beastly run? Why is TO always congratulating Choice?

 

[Dave_in-NC]

The Rams had two of the best WRs to play the game in the 90s. The Giants had Plaxico Burress... This year without Burress, they lost to the Eagles in the first round, despite their defense. Every team that has won the Super Bowl had star-quality WRs... It is why the Patriots and Bellichek went out and got Randy Moss...

And the Eagles destroyed us, who are the star WRs McNabb throws to again?

 

[DallasEast]

You have to be the most grating poster in the history of the world, DallasYeastinfection.

Seriously, the underlines and italicized words are beyond overkill, but the smilies make me fantasize about seeing you slide down a razor banister.

But anyway, while I'm not sure what this "iJordanTaber" business is all about, I'm also not sure exactly what you're even trying to say...or are you just asking me because you don't know yourself?

I don't know who is primarily responsible for eroding anything. I suspect Owens resented Mooch after Mooch suspended him for the star incident. That makes sense.

Whatever the "erosion" was, it apparently wasn't enough to prevent them from having an adequate working relationship.

What does this have to do with what's going on here, anyway? Is there some sort of relationship strain between Owens and Jason Garrett we're supposed to be concerned about? You know, the one that is supposed so bad they can't work together, but somehow, Tony Romo made far more severe criticisms to the press about Garrett, yet the two of them should have no problems making up?

You move me with your words of affection, iJordanTaber.

Anyhoo, the answer is Owens. That has always been apparent.

The sooner Terrell Owens begins working with his offensive coordinator, regardless of any misgivings he has about how he is being used within the offense, the better. The same goes for Tony Romo, Roy Williams, etc.

IF Garrett leaves the franchise, they should all deal with the new offensive coordinator in an equally professional manner as well. All this individualism should be nixed in the butt. Of course, with Owens track record, that's a concern.

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[khiladi]

So the cat farts and khiladi disappears into the distance?

Not really... I'll be extremely PO'd, but I'll still be here, hoping that Garrett actually learns to call a good ball-game... Go back to the game-threa against Washington, the second time around. You'll see me as being one of the few actually crediting him for calling a good game, while it was actually happening and people were bashing him.

 

[Stash]

we can go back and forth and point out which Super Bowl winners didn't have did have great receivers, so I will just say this

we're not giving up anything getting rid of TO

it's not like we're forfeiting playoff wins

and has been pointed out before, we have the potential to run a more effective offense, one that puts more emphasis on the running game, if we don't have both Roy and TO as WRs

having both Roy and TO assures us of the crappy, Garrett, vertical offense

And that's somehow TO's fault?

The crappy Garrett offense is the fault of Jason Garrett and nobody else.

Getting rid of Owens isn't going to help the Golden Boy 'figure it out'.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

The Rams had two of the best WRs to play the game in the 90s. The Giants had Plaxico Burress... This year without Burress, they lost to the Eagles in the first round, despite their defense. Every team that has won the Super Bowl had star-quality WRs... It is why the Patriots and Bellichek went out and got Randy Moss...

the Patriots won 3 Super Bowls with Deion Branch as their #1 WR

the Bucs won with a possession WR as their #1

the Ravens won with Brandon freaking Stokely as a starter

 

[1fisher]

Oh ok, I think I like my version better.

what's your version,Arch?

 

[wileedog]

And if that is true, it shows where this team's dysfunction truly lies.

And it's not with Owens.

Sorry, no, he doesn't get a pass. I agree 100% the coaching and management on this team are not capable of handling the asylum, but that doesn't mean Owens isn't one of the chief inmates, or that the lack of his presence might make it something at least more manageable for Wade and Garrett.

 

[Stash]

Maybe I'm just old school and feel players shouldn't take advantage of bad situations. owens knows he's Jerry's boy and he can say what he wants.
That is the real problem.

The fact that anyone could be 'Jerry's boy' is the problem.

 

[khiladi]

And the Eagles destroyed us, who are the star WRs McNabb throws to again?

WHy did the Eagles go out and get Desean Jackson?

 

[Arch Stanton]

what's your version,Arch?

Post #122

 

[Stash]

And the Eagles destroyed us, who are the star WRs McNabb throws to again?

I must have missed the Eagles winning the Super Bowl on Sunday...

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Again, the Panther's had the number 3 rushing attack and Steve Smith was the number 3 receiver in the league. I am sure TO understands that a rushing game will only improve his statistics, considering football is his way of life. TO did not force Garrett to abandon the run. Wasn't it TO that gave the nickname to Marion? Isn't it TO celebrating with Barber when Barber does some beastly run? Why is TO always congratulating Choice?

having 2 good receivers mean you want them to get the ball, not to mention you have a great pass-catching TE too

And that's somehow TO's fault?

The crappy Garrett offense is the fault of Jason Garrett and nobody else.

Getting rid of Owens isn't going to help the Golden Boy 'figure it out'.

we don't lose anything getting rid of TO

unless you count best offense on paper

 

[Dave_in-NC]

WHy did the Eagles go out and get Desean Jackson?

What's the point? He's a star WR? he may become one but I wouldn't say he is right now.

 

[Stash]

the Patriots won 3 Super Bowls with Deion Branch as their #1 WR

the Bucs won with a possession WR as their #1

the Ravens won with Brandon freaking Stokely as a starter

If you could somehow convince me that releasing Owens could guarantee the Cowboys a defense as good as those teams had, I'm on board with it.

 

[wileedog]

WHy did the Eagles go out and get Desean Jackson?

Because they had absolutely nobody except a slightly above average TE and a great RB?

We have twice the skill weapons they do without TO.

 

[khiladi]

the Patriots won 3 Super Bowls with Deion Branch as their #1 WR

the Bucs won with a possession WR as their #1

the Ravens won with Brandon freaking Stokely as a starter

The Patriots won 3 Super Bowls, by cheating... But even then, Branch is a beast WR, who just can't stay healthy. Tom Brady was absolutely PO'd when they let him go, and the reason they went out and got Randy Moss was precisely because they needed a legitimate WR..

Nobody said it isnt possible to win the Super Bowl, especially when you have one of the greatest defenses to ever play the game, such as the Ravens defense...

Nothing is ensured, but you can be damn sure that there are way more cases of teams making it and winning the Super Bowl with great WRs, than without them...