Bob Sacamano
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Wade is a doofus
iRoot4Losers;2646283 said:Wade is a doofus
Alexander;2646291 said:But even doofus head coaches deserve the right to speak but also manage and hire their own staffs. Some even get control over the 53 man roster. Imagine that.
Chief;2646272 said:That's the point of it all.
It's unprecedented.
Assistant coaches, yes.
But the head coach?
I wonder if the NFL has a problem with this. Jerry will have to loosen the reins at some point and let Wade talk.
Arch Stanton;2646295 said:I'll be honest I prefer this version of Wade.![]()
WoodysGirl;2646268 said:Or maybe Wade simply doesn't want to talk to the media?
They dog him out in their reports and disrespect him at the PCs. Why waste talking to them when you're not obligated by the league to do so?
theebs;2645625 said:You cant be the group that enables troubled players, welcomes in reality shows, hosts business meetings on the side of the field during practice, has the cheerleaders get off the plane first at training camp, has the cheerleaders reality show, allows almost all players to have radio/tv shows to say we are not talking to you.
WoodysGirl;2646268 said:I agree. It's off the charts in here.
Or maybe Wade simply doesn't want to talk to the media?
They dog him out in their reports and disrespect him at the PCs. Why waste talking to them when you're not obligated by the league to do so?
dcfanatic;2646250 said:Earth to Sultan!
Jerry and Bill.
They don't hold the same title.
One is the owner, one was the head coach.
The point being that Wade should be issuing the gag order to his assistants, not Jerry.
Bill was in charge of the team when he was here. Wade isn't even in charge of his own mouth these days.
Get it!
Chocolate Lab;2646276 said:And you're example number one of what I was talking about, DC.
Who cares if he talks or not? When he does talk, all you're going to do is call him a doofus, no matter what he says. So what difference does it make?
Do you really think Jerry threatened Wade with a "Wade, if you say one word, you're fired!" No way.
Like Hos said in another thread, I think Wade could talk if he wanted to. But this way he has an excuse -- "Sorry guys, Rich told me not to!" -- to not do something he probably didn't want to do anyway, which is talk to people who will do nothing but trash him anyway. You notice he's always smiling when he says he "can't" talk... It's not like he's seriously frightened and looking around for Jerry spies before he says it.
Just like with TO, you Wade haters overplay your hand sometimes. Is he a great head coach? No. Does he have his flaws? Yes. But when you blame him for things he doesn't have a hand in and use everything that happens as a reason to call him a doofus, clueless, etc. you really weaken your case.
dcfanatic;2646326 said:Ok. So then man up and say it then Wade.
He's going to say stuff like 'its against the rules' as opposed to saying that he just doesn't want to talk to them?
That's the guy leading this team to Super Bowl XLIV?
A guy who can't even man up to a bunch of reporters?
That's ridiculous.
Voluntary or involuntary, is it that important?bbgun;2646312 said:Except that he specifically referenced the gag order. It's clear that his silence isn't voluntary.
Bill dealt with it by being silent in the offseason, as well. And we heard the same frustration from reporters about how Bill won't talk. If I can ever figure out the advanced search, I could pull the same type of blogs, articles about Bill.Sorry, but that's just an occupational hazard in the NFL. Bill dealt with it by going on the offensive. Besides, I can't remember any controversies last year generated by Wade's press interviews, so there's no real need to shut him up or humiliate him in this fashion. The players on the other hand ...
WoodysGirl;2646347 said:Voluntary or involuntary, is it that important?
I see it as Wade using as a fallback comment. "My mommy won't let me do it." Knowing full well that Jerry would have no qualms about Wade speaking.
Bill dealt with it by being silent in the offseason, as well. And we heard the same frustration from reporters about how Bill won't talk. If I can ever figure out the advanced search, I could pull the same type of blogs, articles about Bill.
Remember the "Parcells Silence is Deafening" articles. Those cracked me up.
I wouldn't mind some kind of memo to the players. What do they really have to say at this point?
We lost. We stunk up the joint. We've got to play better.
*Yawn*
My comments weren't about the gag order. It doesn't matter to me who dictated silence from the organization. I think it's a good thing. It's what I wanted from this offseason.dcfanatic;2646357 said:Please don't attempt to say that Bill Parcells would ever except a public gag order from Jerry Jones.
Jerry would never even bring it up.
Parcells talked when he was there to talk.
Wade was there to talk at the combine and wasn't allowed to do so.
WoodysGirl;2646370 said:My comments weren't about the gag order. It doesn't matter to me who dictated silence from the organization. I think it's a good thing. It's what I wanted from this offseason.
My comments were more about the silence factor and the fact that Parcells spent almost every offseason ignoring the media...senior bowl, combine, etc. And every offseason, the media reported (whined) that the big ol' mean Parcells won't talk to us. And then to top it off, if he did, it would be to his boy Francesca in NY.
Ok, so now Wade isn't talking to them. The spin is different, but the result is the same. Stay-puff, Cupcake, Marshmallow, etc is being neutered by Jerry cuz he won't talk to us.
There are alot more topics re: the 'boys than whether the head coach is talking.
Saying "Go **** yourself" to someone doesn't make you a man or a leader. Pretty sad that you think it does. But I think this is some of the, lets say, cultural bias that Wade faces from guys like you -- that the bigger the jerk you are, the more respectable you are, and the nicer you are, the weaker you are.dcfanatic;2646342 said:LOL.
So now the media has the upper hand on Wade.
He has to find ways around just saying 'Go **** yourself I have nothing to say because you are all idiots who bash me when I do say something'.
That's a man. That's a leader.
We have a guy who is looking for the team to give him a cheesy out by saying that the coaches can't talk to the media?
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Yeah. I can see it now.
Lombardi, Noll, Walsh, Parcells, Belichick, Gibbs, etc.
I can see all of those guys using these 'tactics', lol.
You keep sticking up for poor wittle Wade though.
I am sure his players love the way he mans up to the wimpiest people on the planet, the media, and then steps into the locker room and tells them to get out there and take apart the Eagles so we can get into the playoffs!
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WoodysGirl;2646347 said:Voluntary or involuntary, is it that important?
I see it as Wade using as a fallback comment. "My mommy won't let me do it." Knowing full well that Jerry would have no qualms about Wade speaking.
Bill dealt with it by being silent in the offseason, as well. And we heard the same frustration from reporters about how Bill won't talk. If I can ever figure out the advanced search, I could pull the same type of blogs, articles about Bill.
Remember the "Parcells Silence is Deafening" articles. Those cracked me up.
I wouldn't mind some kind of memo to the players. What do they really have to say at this point?
We lost. We stunk up the joint. We've got to play better.
*Yawn*
bbgun;2646394 said:Nonsense. He talked at functions like the Senior Bowl and even spring training games. More to the point, no one dared tell him not to.
Alexander;2646402 said:He chose to. It was something he believed in. It was what he did.
Does anyone think this mum Phillips is anything close to what he is? No, he'd much rather be out and about making self-deprecating jokes and chuckling to himself. He's taking the silent approach because it has been dictated to him. I doubt it is by choice. And even if it was, who is to say his trip to the "woodshed" did not make it obvious?
Oh goodness. *SMH*bbgun;2646394 said:Yes, treating Wade like a grown man and letting him enjoy the same rights as every other HC in the league is important. Jerry's paranoid policies--besides destroying morale--will not help us lure a quality successor, either.
No one had to tell him, because he chose to ignore them. I believe Wade is doing that also. I think Wades hates doing pressers probably as much as Parcells liked them. Cuz make no mistake, he DID like them, even if he treated them like dirt in the offseason.Nonsense. He talked at functions like the Senior Bowl and even spring training games. More to the point, no one dared tell him not to.
I don't think it does since interview threads are still popping up.I'm assuming that this petty media boycott policy also applies to the players (who are the problem) and not merely the coaching staff.