Game 1: Steelers - 13 vs Titans - 10 *Final*

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Ren;2932700 said:
The Titans handed them that one with their Zimmer like defense at the end there

Mike Zimmer couldn't have called a defense that poor. That was some Brian Stewart 2-minute drill defense right there. "Bend don't break."

Someone forgot to tell Jeff Fisher that 3 points in overtime actually ends the game.
 

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Good lord who is the piss poor defensive coordinator for the Titans? How the hell do you get away from the blitz, when it's working, and continue to use a 4 man rush that clearly isn't working?

Just pathetic.
 

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PBJTime;2932698 said:
To say that is a fair comparison is being intellectually dishonest, period.
To be intellectually dishonest, you have to be engaged in an intellectual activity.

I'm not sure you could call what comes out of this guy's mouth that.
 

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Da Hammer;2932706 said:
not my conversation so i hate to jump in. but he could easily have meant that he was entering/starting his 7th year. not that he's started for 7 years

bingo. thanks
 

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Is Brian Stewart the DC for the Titans? The CBs were ten yards of the receiver. Even 10 yards off Holmes on a 3rd and 1. They went into prevent mode every time they needed to stop Pittsburgh.
 

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theogt;2932710 said:
To be intellectually dishonest, you have to be engaged in an intellectual activity.

I'm not sure you could call what comes out of this guy's mouth that.

Par for the course for you. When you can't make a case, attack. :) Fact is, there is no legitimate football guy in America who would say that Romo, at this point in his career, is better than Aikman in his prime. You do because that is your viewpoint. Fine. Maybe one day you can make that case. But I don't think you will find many to join you at this point.
 

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rcaldw;2932715 said:
Par for the course for you. When you can't make a case, attack. :) Fact is, there is no legitimate football guy in America who would say that Romo, at this point in his career, is better than Aikman in his prime. You do because that is your viewpoint. Fine. Maybe one day you can make that case. But I don't think you will find many to join you at this point.
Be sure to let us know when Henson's birthday comes up again. What's he doing now? Selling used cars?
 

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rcaldw;2932704 said:
What is intellectually dishonest is taking a guy who has gone through 3 training camps, 3 pre-seasons, 3 seasons of film work, game preparation, learning from veterans ahead of him, and comparing him to a guy who played his 1st NFL game as an absolute rookie.

No matter how much you guys want Romo to have been a rookie 3 years ago, it just isn't true. It was simply his first year as a starter.

It's still not the same as starting games. You're just setting up the argument to fit your needs. I think it's clear that most people compare their respective careers as starters as that's the only logical way to compare them. If Romo wasn't accumulating stats, wins, etc., for a certain period of time, then how can you logically compare that with a QB who was.

So, if you want to compare total years in their careers without regarding to time as a starter, then that's your business. Just know that most people aren't having that debate, and I think it's clear that was the case here.
 

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You can't really compare stats for Romo and Aikman because they used two totally different offenses. Emmitt was the focal point of the offense for Aikman. Up until the end of last season, Owens was for Romo, so you can't really compare the stats there.

What gives Aikman the edge to me is that he seemed to have much better poise and control in the playoffs and late in the season than Romo has had.
 

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I hope nobody left that game tonight feeling like either team was a serious contender. They both looked average...especially the Steelers.
 

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Future;2932726 said:
I hope nobody left that game tonight feeling like either team was a serious contender. They both looked average...especially the Steelers.
it's week 1 and both teams have very good defenses
 

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rcaldw;2932684 said:
I'm saying a guy's career is what it is. If Romo didn't start until his 4th year it is because the coaches didn't think he was the best guy at the time. Aikman started from day 1 because he was the best QB on the roster from day 1. He earned what he got, from season 1 to season 7. Romo has earned what he has accomplished to this point, and when his career is over we can properly evaluate it. He is still a 7 year guy no matter how you cut it.

Yeah I'm sure the fact that Aikman was the 1st overall pick in the draft had absolutely nothing to do with the fact that he was starting from day 1.

As for Aikman vs. Romo I think it's a pointless argument from both sides. Two totally different types of QB, two totally different types of offenses, two completely different styles of NFL.
 

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Future;2932726 said:
I hope nobody left that game tonight feeling like either team was a serious contender. They both looked average...especially the Steelers.

If you have a dominant defense, you're a contender. It wasn't Dilfer who put Baltimore over the top.
 

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Rampage;2932728 said:
it's week 1 and both teams have very good defenses
yea...I didn't think either defense looked that great. Steelers were lucky to not be down 13-7 at half and the Titans defense died in the 4th quarter.

Are they both good, yes. But neither team played a complete game.
 

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PBJTime;2932719 said:
It's still not the same as starting games. You're just setting up the argument to fit your needs. I think it's clear that most people compare their respective careers as starters as that's the only logical way to compare them. If Romo wasn't accumulating stats, wins, etc., for a certain period of time, then how can you logically compare that with a QB who was.

So, if you want to compare total years in their careers without regarding to time as a starter, then that's your business. Just know that most people aren't having that debate, and I think it's clear that was the case here.

I'm not setting up anything. Romo is 29 years old, in his 7th season as an NFL QB, who has been a starter for 3 years. Period. That is REALITY. You can't say, ok, he's only started 3 years, so he is actually a 25 year old guy who has only been in the league 3 years. That isn't REALITY.

When Aikman was 25 years old, he had only been in the league for 3 years, and yes he had started all 3. As a 25 year old guy with only 3 years experience he made the Pro-Bowl. He had already won 3 Super Bowls before he turned 30. That is reality.

I understand your point, but you can't just ignore the number of years a guy has been in the league.
 

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Canadian BoyzFan;2932721 said:
If I'm Pittsburgh, I'm calling Dallas about Tashard Choice.

If I'm Pitt I am sending a game ball to Jeff and their D cord. Pitiful! But yeah they could use a RB!
 

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bbgun;2932732 said:
If you have a dominant defense, you're a contender. It wasn't Dilfer who put Baltimore over the top.
Agreed. I came away from the game thinking these are both still top teams. That was really good football.
 
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