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According to the actor that plays him, he is dead and not coming back.
Game of Thrones Season 5 ***spoilers***
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According to the actor that plays him, he is dead and not coming back.
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Both are dead from what the HBO staff is saying. There was a lot of killing in the finale . Kit Harrington said that he won't be back. Stannis is gone as well.
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Well I knew the Jon Snow scene was coming, but I wasn't expecting the news straight from him that he won't be back. That's by far the most disappointed I've been with a characters death. I'm holding out hope that it's a smoke screen to cover up the truth since the rumors of his contract being extended came out. The show is teetering on the edge at this point with killing off beloved characters. They are eventually going to run out of interest if people have no attachment to the individual characters.
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Man screw game of thrones. Starting to lose interest.
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He said the contract extension rumor was just a rumor, but he couldn't address it without giving away spoilers for the show. He said he was actually upset about the rumor , but he was not able to address it.
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Olly... you no good scum of the earth.
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Olly... you no good scum of the earth.
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Jon Snow seemed like the only person that saw the big picture concerning the White Walkers. Who will step up to lead now? The crows are nothing more than criminals and outcast sent to Wall to get them out of society. Them turning on Jon Snow made sense if you think about it. I hope the Wildlings kill the few remaining Crows. I kinda like the Wildlings and they outnumber the crows with the ones that Jon Snow brought back to the wall.
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we'll see later this year when the book is *hopefully* released, I think this is misdirection. wouldn't be much of a cliff hangar if he came out and said, I'm totally gonna survive this.
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Well, there's this..... nothing should surprise you... nothing is a definite.... just ride the wave... let the theories begin...
Harington had teased his return to "GoT" with The Huffington Post earlier this month, however. When asked when he will return to set to shoot Season 6, the actor responded saying, "If I start filming 'Thrones. I can’t tell you if I do."
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"Don't worry Olly, he'll be back.... He always comes back...."
straight from the show..
straight from the show..
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I saw that and alluded to it in my post. It could easily be a smoke screen though. What else could he say? "Nah I signed an extension, I'm alive and well." The way the story has always been, he very well could be dead, but I'm going to hold out hope.
As far as extension rumors he could have came out and said they haven't discussed any extension yet and any other reports were inaccurate a long time ago. His events have been known for a long time in the books anyways so I'm not sure how it would have a spoiler.
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Kit Harrington interview
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: What was your reaction when you learned Jon’s fate?
KIT HARINGTON: Like every season, you read something in the script and go, “Oh [crap]” I kind of knew it was coming. I didn’t read [George R.R. Martin’s novel] A Dance with Dragons. But I read the other books and I had heard this is what happens. So I had an inkling it should be this season. I didn’t realize it would be the final shot of the season and that made it extra special. It’s always kind of nice really when you’re the last thing that happens in that episode. I dunno, I loved it. I loved how they brought Olly in to be the person who kills me. I love how the storyline with Thorne was wrapped up. I think it was really well crafted by [showrunners David Benioff and Dan Weiss]. It felt like the right way for it to happen.
Do you think Jon made significant mistakes, or did he do the right thing—but lost his life anyway?
There’s a huge amount of fault. He hasn’t paid attention to the people around him. He’s only looked at the big picture this season. His major fault is a bit like Ned’s in that when trying to do the right thing he wasn’t observing the people around him. He had blinders on. All he could really see is this impending doom by the White Walkers and doing things for the greater good, and what he was missing was Olly and [Ser Alliser] Thorne and some of the men around him. He wasn’t seeing their discontent and dealing with the smaller issues. And because of that, he’s served justice. Olly puts the last dagger in him. In that moment i think he realizes that he didn’t look after his kin, this young man, and let him down.
The Night’s Watch mutiny is definitely justified by the story. But we’ve also see his character grow and evolve as a leader over all these years and so it also just feels like all of that growth should pay off for something greater – more than the other characters we’ve seen die on the show. Obviously he’s accomplished plenty during his time at the Night’s Watch, bu there’s a feeling of, “that’s not what’s supposed to happen, he was destined for greater things.”
Yeah, but we have to go by what Thrones does. AndThrones treats drama as real life. And people die and don’t accomplish what we think they’re meant to in real life. And I think that’s one of the powerful things about Thrones. The major loss with Jon’s through-line is he never finds out who his mother is and that’s the heartbreaking thing for me.
Last year you said the one thing you really want is for your character to learn that.
And he doesn’t. So I don’t know. It’s really the wayThrones does things and I will be really interested to see the audience reaction. I hope it’s not, "[Oh] yes, thank [you] he’s dead.”
I think they’ll be heartbroken—even those who are like, “Tyrion is my favorite character” or whatnot. You cannot have watched this show, and watch your character grow all these years, and not feel gut-kicked over the way your arc plays out.
I hope that’s the case.
I was talking to Dan Weiss and he said Jon is really dead. But George R.R. Martin left open the possibility the character might not be dead in the books. And then that cast salary contract story came out last year and it had your name among those receiving raises for season six and an option on a seventh. So let me ask you: Is Jon reallydead?
This is my understanding of it. I had a sit-down with Dan and David, we did the Tony Soprano walk [letting an actor know they’re being whacked]. And they said, “Look, you’re gone, it’s done.” And as far as the salary thing goes, that angered me when that story came out. I don’t know where it came from, but it was inaccurate in many ways. It’s going to put questions into your head and into fans’ heads that things are not what they are. Quite honestly, I have never been told the future of things in this show, but this is the one time I have. They sat me down and said, “This is how it is.” If anything in the future is not like that, then I don’t know about it – it’s only in David and Dan and George’s heads. But I’ve been told I’m dead. I’m dead. I’m not coming back next season. So that’s all I can tell you, really.
What was your last day on set like?
I got a big wrap and, like any of the actors who die on Thrones, I just wanted to [get] off out of there— I got a tear in my eye. I was more moved and emotional than I thought I’d be.
Any parting gifts like Rose got with her bow and arrow?
No! Rose got a [dang] bow and arrow and I didn’t get [anything]! So yeah, I’m definitely less popular than Rose.
What’s next for you?
I’m looking for movies for next year. I’m in a very lucky place—I can turn things down and do what I want to do. There’s a couple movies I’m looking at, but I can’t really talk about them yet. I might take a holiday. I might try writing. I’m trying to figure it out.
One thing actors get excited about after a long time on a show is they can change their appearance. Any plans to cut your hair?
I look like Jim Morrison right now. I don’t know what to do with it. I can cut it if I want, but it’s probably wise to leave long until I know what the next part is. I’ve kind of grown accustomed to it, it would feel weird to change it. [Note: Shortly after this interview was conducted, he cut it.]
What was your fondest memory looking back?
The end of last season. That whole battle sequence in episode nine, it was a great bonding experience for a lot of the cast like me and John [Bradley] and Mark [Stanley] and Rose Leslie—we had a great time shooting that episode. I think that was my favorite moment.
Any thoughts about how Thrones goes on after this?
You build up people’s expectations so high, how do you finish it? I don’t know how they’re going to finish Thrones, but I think I’ve gone out on a great season. I think they’ll have to end it with most epic [kill]-all battle TV has ever seen.
I've edited out some of the language in the interview to make it CZ friendly, but this is straight from him. Reading the full interview definitely leads me to think he is gone for good. Damn you GoT!
http://www.ew.com/article/2015/06/14/game-thrones-jon-dies-interview
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: What was your reaction when you learned Jon’s fate?
KIT HARINGTON: Like every season, you read something in the script and go, “Oh [crap]” I kind of knew it was coming. I didn’t read [George R.R. Martin’s novel] A Dance with Dragons. But I read the other books and I had heard this is what happens. So I had an inkling it should be this season. I didn’t realize it would be the final shot of the season and that made it extra special. It’s always kind of nice really when you’re the last thing that happens in that episode. I dunno, I loved it. I loved how they brought Olly in to be the person who kills me. I love how the storyline with Thorne was wrapped up. I think it was really well crafted by [showrunners David Benioff and Dan Weiss]. It felt like the right way for it to happen.
Do you think Jon made significant mistakes, or did he do the right thing—but lost his life anyway?
There’s a huge amount of fault. He hasn’t paid attention to the people around him. He’s only looked at the big picture this season. His major fault is a bit like Ned’s in that when trying to do the right thing he wasn’t observing the people around him. He had blinders on. All he could really see is this impending doom by the White Walkers and doing things for the greater good, and what he was missing was Olly and [Ser Alliser] Thorne and some of the men around him. He wasn’t seeing their discontent and dealing with the smaller issues. And because of that, he’s served justice. Olly puts the last dagger in him. In that moment i think he realizes that he didn’t look after his kin, this young man, and let him down.
The Night’s Watch mutiny is definitely justified by the story. But we’ve also see his character grow and evolve as a leader over all these years and so it also just feels like all of that growth should pay off for something greater – more than the other characters we’ve seen die on the show. Obviously he’s accomplished plenty during his time at the Night’s Watch, bu there’s a feeling of, “that’s not what’s supposed to happen, he was destined for greater things.”
Yeah, but we have to go by what Thrones does. AndThrones treats drama as real life. And people die and don’t accomplish what we think they’re meant to in real life. And I think that’s one of the powerful things about Thrones. The major loss with Jon’s through-line is he never finds out who his mother is and that’s the heartbreaking thing for me.
Last year you said the one thing you really want is for your character to learn that.
And he doesn’t. So I don’t know. It’s really the wayThrones does things and I will be really interested to see the audience reaction. I hope it’s not, "[Oh] yes, thank [you] he’s dead.”
I think they’ll be heartbroken—even those who are like, “Tyrion is my favorite character” or whatnot. You cannot have watched this show, and watch your character grow all these years, and not feel gut-kicked over the way your arc plays out.
I hope that’s the case.
I was talking to Dan Weiss and he said Jon is really dead. But George R.R. Martin left open the possibility the character might not be dead in the books. And then that cast salary contract story came out last year and it had your name among those receiving raises for season six and an option on a seventh. So let me ask you: Is Jon reallydead?
This is my understanding of it. I had a sit-down with Dan and David, we did the Tony Soprano walk [letting an actor know they’re being whacked]. And they said, “Look, you’re gone, it’s done.” And as far as the salary thing goes, that angered me when that story came out. I don’t know where it came from, but it was inaccurate in many ways. It’s going to put questions into your head and into fans’ heads that things are not what they are. Quite honestly, I have never been told the future of things in this show, but this is the one time I have. They sat me down and said, “This is how it is.” If anything in the future is not like that, then I don’t know about it – it’s only in David and Dan and George’s heads. But I’ve been told I’m dead. I’m dead. I’m not coming back next season. So that’s all I can tell you, really.
What was your last day on set like?
I got a big wrap and, like any of the actors who die on Thrones, I just wanted to [get] off out of there— I got a tear in my eye. I was more moved and emotional than I thought I’d be.
Any parting gifts like Rose got with her bow and arrow?
No! Rose got a [dang] bow and arrow and I didn’t get [anything]! So yeah, I’m definitely less popular than Rose.
What’s next for you?
I’m looking for movies for next year. I’m in a very lucky place—I can turn things down and do what I want to do. There’s a couple movies I’m looking at, but I can’t really talk about them yet. I might take a holiday. I might try writing. I’m trying to figure it out.
One thing actors get excited about after a long time on a show is they can change their appearance. Any plans to cut your hair?
I look like Jim Morrison right now. I don’t know what to do with it. I can cut it if I want, but it’s probably wise to leave long until I know what the next part is. I’ve kind of grown accustomed to it, it would feel weird to change it. [Note: Shortly after this interview was conducted, he cut it.]
What was your fondest memory looking back?
The end of last season. That whole battle sequence in episode nine, it was a great bonding experience for a lot of the cast like me and John [Bradley] and Mark [Stanley] and Rose Leslie—we had a great time shooting that episode. I think that was my favorite moment.
Any thoughts about how Thrones goes on after this?
You build up people’s expectations so high, how do you finish it? I don’t know how they’re going to finish Thrones, but I think I’ve gone out on a great season. I think they’ll have to end it with most epic [kill]-all battle TV has ever seen.
I've edited out some of the language in the interview to make it CZ friendly, but this is straight from him. Reading the full interview definitely leads me to think he is gone for good. Damn you GoT!
http://www.ew.com/article/2015/06/14/game-thrones-jon-dies-interview
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I'm not sure who is Azor Ahai but it makes sense that Jon Snow reincarnates as someone else on this show. Snow witnessed the White Walkers, whose power was far beyond that of mortal men or him. To me, it would take someone else who was more than mortal to stop them. I thought that duty would fall to Daenerys Targaryen, she who survived her dead husband's cremation unharmed and became the Mother of Dragons. Guess I was wrong.
Personally, I'll remain a fan of the show up until if-and-when they kill off Dany.