Game of Thrones Season 5 ***spoilers***

[BrAinPaiNt]

I'm not a book reader, so I'm curious.... In what way?

Since Jon is a warg, at least with his wolf, I think he is hinting around about Jon leaving his body and living on through his wolf.

 

[Idgit]

Since Jon is a warg, at least with his wolf, I think he is hinting around about Jon leaving his body and living on through his wolf.

His wolf, Ghost, you mean?

 

[viman96]

Does Sansa kill herself? If not then how does she survive the leap from that high up?

Why did Arya go blind? Is it temporary? Does it mean her skills evolved to another level?

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

His wolf, Ghost, you mean?

Yes.
One of the willing moved into his bird when his human body was killed on the show.

The book at one area talked about a human going into the animal body full time as well.

With bran they talked about on the show and book.

So could be that possibility but I don't think it happens in John's case.

It was said that the longer a person stayed in animal form that they would eventually turn into the animal not only in body but in mind.

 

[Szczepanik]

I think if he wargs then it is a temporary season 6 thing until Melisandre reincarnates him into the revered legendary warrior from the books.

They heavily foreshadowed Melisandre and her interest in Jon Snow throughout this entire season, as well as foreshadowing the hate Ollie had for Snow.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Does Sansa kill herself? If not then how does she survive the leap from that high up?

Why did Arya go blind? Is it temporary? Does it mean her skills evolved to another level?

I don't think they did it to kill themselves. I imagine we will find that the snow will be deep enough to let the survive the jump but that is pure speculation on my part as none of that has happened in the book.

Arya is temporarily blind. It is part of her training.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

Yes.
One of the willing moved into his bird when his human body was killed on the show.

The book at one area talked about a human going into the animal body full time as well.

With bran they talked about on the show and book.

So could be that possibility but I don't think it happens in John's case.

It was said that the longer a person stayed in animal form that they would eventually turn into the animal not only in body but in mind.

I've heard the theory (about ghost), and I know Bran, & Orell have shown that ability, but they haven't alluded to Jon having that power on the show. There was no set up, so I hope that's not the case.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

Does Sansa kill herself? If not then how does she survive the leap from that high up?

Why did Arya go blind? Is it temporary? Does it mean her skills evolved to another level?

"an eye for an eye".... "lost her way"... poison to a person who is "someone"...
I would guess she will "find her way", and find her sight...

snow was pretty deep.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

"Vengeance is blinding" seemed to be the message of this episode.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Now that there aren't any real spoilers left, just speculation, I think it's safe to be a bit more obvious and clear on a few things. If not, please delete

Highlight my response if you want to read

George RR Martin has done an ok job of hiding it, but Jon Snow is the main character in the series and thus can not be dead at this point in the series. The first clue is simply the name of the book series, a Song of Ice and Fire. Why does this have anything to do with Jon Snow? Because his mother was Lyanna Stark (Ice) and his father was Rhaegar Targaryen (Fire). All throughout there have been clues leading to this, and we likely won't find out till book 7, but it's very strongly hinted at that Lyanna did not want to marry Robert Baratheon and Rhaegar, unlike his father was a good man (thus unlikely to kidnap someone) and was obsessed with a prophecy about a Prince who would be born after a long summer that would end the Darkness (The Others). It has also been hinted that the Great Warrior that Melisandre thought Stannis was, is the same prophecy (Thus her arrival at Castle Black).

His arc just isn't complete, and it may not end with him saving the day, but it won't end with him dying at Castle Black, never finding out who his mother was (and thus who his father really is).

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

 

[jnday]

I think Martin has a sick sense of humor and just when you start to like somebody, he kills them off. He likes playing with fan's emotions. The Starks are well liked by fans and he kills them on a regular basis just to get a laugh.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

I think Martin has a sick sense of humor and just when you start to like somebody, he kills them off. He likes playing with fan's emotions. The Starks are well liked by fans and he kills them on a regular basis just to get a laugh.

again, Jon isn't a Stark....or a Snow to be exact

 

[Kevinicus]

Martin doesn't just kill people for grins. At least not main characters. Everything he does has a reason with the way it affecta the story.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

some of us are still trying to sell that bridge I see..

 

[Idgit]

Yes.
One of the willing moved into his bird when his human body was killed on the show.

The book at one area talked about a human going into the animal body full time as well.

With bran they talked about on the show and book.

So could be that possibility but I don't think it happens in John's case.

It was said that the longer a person stayed in animal form that they would eventually turn into the animal not only in body but in mind.

That's a really interesting angle. I'd expected John to come back, but hadn't thought about the warg connection. Really, though, I was commenting that the name 'ghost' implies a disembodied soul, so it might be a bit of foreshadowing in that way, too.

 

[jnday]

again, Jon isn't a Stark....or a Snow to be exact

At this point, speculation is that his mother was a Stark . Good enough for Martin to kill him. There are do many post that people act like they are sure what is happening next season. HBO is on their own now and Martin's books are not going to be used for a reference. Nobody has a clue what direction the story is going. The only thing we know at this point is Jon Snow is dead. They can go any direction from his death, but nobody knows what to expect.

 

[Roadtrip635]

Jon Snow is dead, but that doesn't mean he couldn't come back as an undead. It seemed in the previous episode that there may have been some kind of connection between him and the White Walker King. Jon is reborn as a white walker and battles for supremacy with the reigning king and becomes an evil character. Maybe he becomes a white walker but somehow still retains a shred of his humanity and battles the white walkers to aid humanity. The cool twist would be he also has some ability to raise the dead as well and builds his own white walker army to combat the ancient white walker army.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

At this point, speculation is that his mother was a Stark . Good enough for Martin to kill him. There are do many post that people act like they are sure what is happening next season. HBO is on their own now and Martin's books are not going to be used for a reference. Nobody has a clue what direction the story is going. The only thing we know at this point is Jon Snow is dead. They can go any direction from his death, but nobody knows what to expect.

It seems like you are the one who seems "sure" of what's happening. The discussion among many is just following clues, foreshadowing, basic conflict, & resolution guides that are essential elements in good storytelling. Coming up with theories, attempting to guess whats next... In other words being active participants, being engaged. Nothing "random" has happened in this show so far... It may seem so to you, but not others who may be following the dialog and visuals cues closely. Its okay to have a difference of opinion, feel that Jon Snow is dead, never coming back..."blah, blah, blah".... but you don't have to keep trying to convince us of your convictions, repeating over and over "He's dead, get over it"....... Its cool to disagree, we get where you're coming from..... As far as having "a clue", that's just what good artist leave is "a clue".... Now how you interpret it is up is up to the individual.......

"Belief is so often the death of reason."
-Qyburn

 

[jnday]

It seems like you are the one who seems "sure" of what's happening. The discussion among many is just following clues, foreshadowing, basic conflict, & resolution guides that are essential elements in good storytelling. Coming up with theories, attempting to guess whats next... In other words being active participants, being engaged. Nothing "random" has happened in this show so far... It may seem so to you, but not others who may be following the dialog and visuals cues closely. Its okay to have a difference of opinion, feel that Jon Snow is dead, never coming back..."blah, blah, blah".... but you don't have to keep trying to convince us of your convictions, repeating over and over "He's dead, get over it"....... Its cool to disagree, we get where you're coming from..... As far as having "a clue", that's just what good artist leave is "a clue".... Now how you interpret it is up is up to the individual.......

"Belief is so often the death of reason."
-Qyburn

I am not sure at all. I only stated what I have read from several different sources after researching it for a couple hours. As I have said, nobody knows at this point due to HBO taking the series in their own direction. There are several sites that give accurate info on the behind the scenes stuff that is going on. If Jon Snow becomes a wolf, or something else is possible, but Kit Harrington said that he did not sign a contract to come back like many of the other actors. There could be a change, but that is all that is known at this time . I have many theories myself, but I have only passed on the info that is known at this time.. I am not trying to convince you of anything . Just passing on direct quotes from the people involved with the show. Nobody is safe on GOT. That is the only sure thing that anybody knows. There are some new characters showing up next season that is going to add new story lines that has not been seen so far .