Game of Thrones Season 6

[AzorAhai]

I bet Littlefinger gets eaten by a Dragon before all is said and done. I'm pretty sure he isn't killing Jon. He may kill Sansa though. That would definitely be his undoing.

I'm not entirely sure it isn't the other way around with Sansa being responsible for his death.

 

[coogrfan]

She still is no match for Cersei......she got in all snide remarks last week but she paid dearly for it....her son, granddaughter(the Queen) and her grandson all perished.....Cersei is the ultimate evil incarnate.....her whole plan was next level diabolical......even Jamie was scared when he came back.....how did it go from her trial to her coronation without even an ounce of help from him.....

The Queen of Thorns is infinitely better at the Game than Cersei.

All Cersei has done is to assure the fall of House Lannister. They've lost their most important ally (House Tyrell) and the support of the Church. When Dany lands, all of Westeros will flock to her banners...and all because of Cersei's petty feud with a younger woman.

As Tywin said on a similar occasion back in season one: "Madness. Madness, and stupidity".

 

[YosemiteSam]

The Queen of Thorns is infinitely better at the Game than Cersei.

All Cersei has done is to assure the fall of House Lannister.

Agreed. Cersei is like a twelve year old brat. She is just a very cunning twelve year old brat.

When Dany lands, all of Westeros will flock to her banners...and all because of Cersei's petty feud with a younger woman.

I don't know if everyone flocks to her. Most don't even know she is coming. I'm sure it will be quite a surprise for many.

 

[coogrfan]

She's not cunning, she's just vicious. A cunning person considers the consequences of their actions. Cersei cannot think beyond her immediate gratification.

As for the rest, Dany already has her own forces plus the Tyrells and the Martells, with the prospect of more Houses rallying to her cause once it becomes clear which way the wind is blowing. The Lannisters have...themselves. They're alone and bankrupt. They will be swept aside in short order, at which point we will get on with the real war.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

The Queen of Thorns is infinitely better at the Game than Cersei.

All Cersei has done is to assure the fall of House Lannister. They've lost their most important ally (House Tyrell) and the support of the Church. When Dany lands, all of Westeros will flock to her banners...and all because of Cersei's petty feud with a younger woman.

As Tywin said on a similar occasion back in season one: "Madness. Madness, and stupidity".

Cersei is not as smart as she thinks.. she's been told that by her father, her younger brother, and Lady Tyrell....

 

[Nightman]

You guys are nuts.....Cersei just erased Tyrell's whole family....her entire future as she called it and she did it with her patented smirk....Lady Olenna couldn't do squat against the Sparrow she is nothing to Queen Cersei.....that was check mate, down to the Septon. Maester Pycelle, Uncle Kevan and all the nobles that laughed at her......

 

[Nightman]

That makes sense, its been hinted to in dialog and everything is lining up that way... but one thing sticks in my mine...Tormund saying.. "Jon Snow is no king"...

I don't think they marry but if Dany helps the North fight the White Walkers, Jon will accept her as his Aunt and Queen

 

[Nightman]

Trouble is coming though

 

[TheCount]

Has to be Jamie or Tyrion who's kills Cersei... It's part of the prophecy the witch told her when she was young.

I think it's Jamie too (possibly Tyrion, but Jamie makes more sense), but it's worth noting that the witch's prophecy says "little brother", not "your little brother".

 

[TheCount]

I don't think they marry but if Dany helps the North fight the White Walkers, Jon will accept her as his Aunt and Queen

I would agree, but Dany says herself that the best way to forge a lasting rule is through marriage.

Her defeating the south and then marrying the king in the north puts all of Westeros in alliance. With Dany having united the Iron Born and Dorne, while vanquishing the Lanisters; John having united the North and vanquished the white walkers, that essentially means world peace.

It is a Song of Fire and Ice after all.

 

[YosemiteSam]

She's not cunning, she's just vicious. A cunning person considers the consequences of their actions. Cersei cannot think beyond her immediate gratification.

The definition of cunning begs to differ. Cersei is by far the most cunning in this show so far. Her actions have cost her dearly, but so far. She is alive and a LOT of her enemies are dead.

While her time is coming to an end. The end game for her is, distruction of her enemies and so far, she has unequivocally done that. Her list of dead enemies is LONG. Especially, the Martells, Starks, Tyrells, and Sept. ...and even the Mad Targaryen King.

 

[Nightman]

The Queen of Thorns is infinitely better at the Game than Cersei.

All Cersei has done is to assure the fall of House Lannister. They've lost their most important ally (House Tyrell) and the support of the Church. When Dany lands, all of Westeros will flock to her banners...and all because of Cersei's petty feud with a younger woman.

As Tywin said on a similar occasion back in season one: "Madness. Madness, and stupidity".

That was a John Gotti style coup d'etat.....it broke all the rules and wasn't sanctioned but it put him firmly in charge....the Boss of Bosses.......there is no longer an opposing claim to the Iron Throne......it was taken by force and is now the Lannisters that rule, not the Baratheons....Tywin was too scared to grab the throne when it was right there for him...any previous claims are null and void and the only way to take it from Cersei will be with greater force...Old Dusty can front all she wants down in Dorne but she is done

 

[coogrfan]

You guys are nuts.....Cersei just erased Tyrell's whole family....her entire future as she called it and she did it with her patented smirk....Lady Olenna couldn't do squat against the Sparrow she is nothing to Queen Cersei.....that was check mate, down to the Septon. Maester Pycelle, Uncle Kevan and all the nobles that laughed at her......

That's short term thinking. The Tyrell's have been hurt, but their military and economic power remains intact and is now firmly committed to seeking revenge. Making an enemy of your most important ally out of sheer spitefulness is about as dumb as it gets.

 

[Nightman]

That's short term thinking. The Tyrell's have been hurt, but their military and economic power remains intact and is now firmly committed to seeking revenge. Making an enemy of your most important ally out of sheer spitefulness is about as dumb as it gets.

Mace- Kilt
Loras- Kilt
Margery- Kilt

who says they are that strong.....she backed down when she had Kings Landing at her fingertips....she let the Sparrow dictate everything and he still humiliated Ser Loras and Queen Margery......wake me when she gets really mad, that sounds scary....they even got Mace to make promises to the Iron Bank in the name of the Tyrells on behalf of Kings Landing because they sold their grand-daughter to another King....

If the Lannisters were as broke as it seems then going back to Castlery Rock sounds like a terrible choice for Cersei....the only way regain her fortune is to be in charge.....when Tommen turned into the Cowardly Lion, she had no choice but to grab it herself

 

[coogrfan]

That was a John Gotti style coup d'etat.....it broke all the rules and wasn't sanctioned but it put him firmly in charge....the Boss of Bosses.......there is no longer an opposing claim to the Iron Throne......it was taken by force and is now the Lannisters that rule, not the Baratheons....Tywin was too scared to grab the throne when it was right there for him...any previous claims are null and void and the only way to take it from Cersei will be with greater force...Old Dusty can front all she wants down in Dorne but she is done

Two problems with this analogy. One, she left by far her most dangerous opponent alive; and two, she has effectively isolated her House.

The Lannisters are not strong enough by themselves to rule the Seven Kingdoms thru force. If it hadn't been for the Tyrells providing food and troops the Lannisters would have been crushed by Stannis at the Blackwater long ago. As it now stands, the Tyrells, Martells, and the resurgent House Stark will all be committed to the Lannisters ruin...and that doesn't take into account Dany's enormous force or Littlefinger and the armies of the Vale. She has also made an enemy of the Church, which will now fully support the efforts of the other Great Houses to bring the Lannisters down.

 

[coogrfan]

Mace- Kilt
Loras- Kilt
Margery- Kilt

who says they are that strong.....she backed down when she had Kings Landing at her fingertips....she let the Sparrow dictate everything and he still humiliated Ser Loras and Queen Margery......wake me when she gets really mad, that sounds scary....they even got Mace to make promises to the Iron Bank in the name of the Tyrells on behalf of Kings Landing because they sold their grand-daughter to another King....

Promises which I think we can assume are now null and void, which means the Iron Bank is going to demand payment from the Lannisters. Failing that, the IB will almost certainly double down in their support of the other claimants.

So...most or all of the remaining Great Houses, the Church and the Iron Bank are all going to be aligned against the Lannisters. Chalk up another brilliant move for Cersei.

If the Lannisters were as broke as it seems then going back to Castlery Rock sounds like a terrible choice for Cersei....the only way regain her fortune is to be in charge.....when Tommen turned into the Cowardly Lion, she had no choice but to grab it herself

Everything that happened with the High Sparrow and the Faith Militant was Cersei's doing. In her short sighted rush to inflict harm on Margaery she chose to use the Faith as a weapon against the Tyrells, without even considering the possibility that it might backfire on her (which is something a person with three children born of incest probably should have considered).

 

[Dallas_Cowboys50]

Two problems with this analogy. One, she left by far her most dangerous opponent alive; and two, she has effectively isolated her House.

The Lannisters are not strong enough by themselves to rule the Seven Kingdoms thru force. If it hadn't been for the Tyrells providing food and troops the Lannisters would have been crushed by Stannis at the Blackwater long ago. As it now stands, the Tyrells, Martells, and the resurgent House Stark will all be committed to the Lannisters ruin...and that doesn't take into account Dany's enormous force or Littlefinger and the armies of the Vale. She has also made an enemy of the Church, which will now fully support the efforts of the other Great Houses to bring the Lannisters down.

I agree with all except the last part, is there even a Church left? I mean, of course the religion itself covers all of Westeros, but is there any Faith Militant left to enforce anything? The high Sparrow and a whole mess of Septons are dead as well, so if anything theyre gonna be in a scramble for leadership.....also, is it possible Littlefinger coerces his way back into Cersei's good graces, giving her the knights of the vale? not that that would matter much against the ridiculous forces mounting against her....

 

[Nightman]

Two problems with this analogy. One, she left by far her most dangerous opponent alive; and two, she has effectively isolated her House.

The Lannisters are not strong enough by themselves to rule the Seven Kingdoms thru force. If it hadn't been for the Tyrells providing food and troops the Lannisters would have been crushed by Stannis at the Blackwater long ago. As it now stands, the Tyrells, Martells, and the resurgent House Stark will all be committed to the Lannisters ruin...and that doesn't take into account Dany's enormous force or Littlefinger and the armies of the Vale. She has also made an enemy of the Church, which will now fully support the efforts of the other Great Houses to bring the Lannisters down.

Olenna Tyrell just got beat 72-0 in the Super Bowl......Cersei choose violence and won.....anything is just talk

Even if Dany wins Westeros next year, she won't a second thought to the Tyrells. LadyO can go retire to her empty castle and sew another floral rose and listen for the sounds of her great grandchildren which will never come...and Dany is the same person that would have burned Queen Margery alive to get the Iron Throne.....some pal

 

[Nightman]

I'm not entirely sure it isn't the other way around with Sansa being responsible for his death.

Sansa has learned from the best......Cersei, Littlefinger and Ramsay all taught her things she never knew existed.....She will not be an easy mark ever again....

 

[Dallas_Cowboys50]

Is there really only 13 episodes left? Hopefully this means the episodes will be longer because there is going to be a crap ton of stuff they need to shove into these episodes.

this has me stressin also, I think Id rather just have one more final regular 10 episode season instead of 13 split over the next 2....waiting almost a year just for 7 and then another just for 6? nah.......not that I can do anyting about it, but still, just nah......