Garrett as a lameduck

[khiladi]

Dont ever forget who the assistant head coach was.

It blows my mind that he escapes blame for 2010.

They aren't even paying attention to the score the first 6 games, when Wade's defense was taking the heat, while the offense was consistently going 3 and out and not controlling any TOP. And the games were close and not even blow-outs.

 

[khiladi]

The idea that Jason was for Dan Reeves or help is simply dis-proven by the fact that as soon as the Dan Reeves fiasco was finished, there was no consultant at all brought in. There was no consultant to assist in the running game. Jason went back to doing what he was doing. Jason went back to total control of the offense.

Funny how Reeves was about to sign and a last minute "he didn't want to punch in the clock" became an issue.

And irrespective of what happened, you missed the point, which was Wade wanting to bring in one of the most disciplined coaches in the NFL history, a no nonsense guy who is very controlling over his teams, a guy like Marty Schottenheimer whom Wade is also affiliated with and coached with. What a Cupcake type of guy... LOL

 

[ConstantReboot]

no one is excusing garrett. what I take issue with is blaming everything on garrett and dismissing everything else surrounding it. I guess it makes it simple. get rid of garrett we are on the road to glory. yet, history proves (is there read it, check it verify it), that in the past 20 years, garrett or no garrett the result has been the same. and how does garrett have the key to the kingdom? because he has been over ruled on multiples of occasions by the very gm who anointed him.

he may not be the solution. but what is the solution? another coach? what result do you expect or do you just want hope because right now you feel hopeless? isn't that what Jerry sells everyone. hope!?

and where did I sugar coat garrett being great? I just disagree that everything is his fault and his fault only. I hold wade accountable. I hold jerry accountable. I hold other coaches accountable.

and to say jerry hyped him so ravens jumped on him is asinine. because jerry's incompetence is well advertised and you think Ozzie and Buscotti are so lame that they lucked into a couple of superbowls and billions of dollars. yeah, they just took Jerry's words for garrett being a great coach and jumped on him....do you seriously believe that?

and I find it funny, people who want to blame garrett, say he had room and then some of these same folks want room gone because he is source of our problems.....

what ever fits the argument.

I'm not blaming anything on Garrett. Im disappointed in Garrett. He was hyped up by Jones as a great coach and a genius to the point that a lot of people believed him. If some people here believed him to be a very good coach even though he lacked the experienced, Im sure that some within the Ravens organization can make that same mistake as well. Nonetheless, Garrett didn't go through the entire vetting process of the Ravens and might not have been selected at all. Who knows.

All I know just because the Ravens wanted a look at him as a possible coach doesn't mean much. Results is what matter the most here. Parcells got us into the playoffs. Wade got us into the playoffs. Now the pressure is on Garrett to get us there as well. He has had every opportunity to do so these last 3 years and has struck out each and every time.

Now its funny that you want to blame Jerry and you also want to blame Wade. But come on. Garrett was the head coach those 3 final games of the season that could have sent us into the playoffs. Each of those games was winnable. You can't seriously blame Jerry or even Wade for losing those games can you? Just think about it.

In my opinion Garrett is not the solution that this team needs. He can't stand up to Jerry because Jerry got him that job in the first place. He just isn't a good coach and the results have proven to be true.

 

[Wolfpack]

They aren't even paying attention to the score the first 6 games, when Wade's defense was taking the heat, while the offense was consistently going 3 and out and not controlling any TOP. And the games were close and not even blow-outs.

Funny that Red said he would run the ball more after he took over…you know, to help the defense. What a joke that guy is.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I'm not blaming anything on Garrett. Im disappointed in Garrett. He was hyped up by Jones as a great coach and a genius to the point that a lot of people believed him. If some people here believed him to be a very good coach even though he lacked the experienced, Im sure that some within the Ravens organization can make that same mistake as well. Nonetheless, Garrett didn't go through the entire vetting process of the Ravens and might not have been selected at all. Who knows.

All I know just because the Ravens wanted a look at him as a possible coach doesn't mean much. Results is what matter the most here. Parcells got us into the playoffs. Wade got us into the playoffs. Now the pressure is on Garrett to get us there as well. He has had every opportunity to do so these last 3 years and has struck out each and every time.

Now its funny that you want to blame Jerry and you also want to blame Wade. But come on. Garrett was the head coach those 3 final games of the season that could have sent us into the playoffs. Each of those games was winnable. You can't seriously blame Jerry or even Wade for losing those games can you? Just think about it.

In my opinion Garrett is not the solution that this team needs. He can't stand up to Jerry because Jerry got him that job in the first place. He just isn't a good coach and the results have proven to be true.

I am disappointed as well. I never bought into the hype neither and I never buy anything jones sells. btw, garrett was offered the job with the ravens.

the only coach that has had true impact on this team has been parcells. we were chaotic, disorganized and lacked direction until he got here. wade's rode the coat tails of parcells with the team, it wasn't wade, it was parcells. we had some of our worst drafts in history under wade and couple of our great drafts with parcells. once we started to draft bad again, the team deteriorated very quickly as we weren't able to replace talent nor provide depth. the team also became lazy, laxed and lacked discipline. which eventually ran out of steam from parcells structure and totally collapsed.

I blame Jerry first, I blame wade and I blame garrett. I have also come to accept that it doesn't matter who the coach is, they come here to fail. the organization as it operates today is not set up to succeed. it will fail and even if it starts to find success, Jerry starts to meddle even more, which leads to failure.

I was against wade as a head coach because he had failed in the past and had proven he might be a great DC, but not a great head coach. the only reason he got the job was because he coached the 3-4 and he was willing to take garrett as an OC. he just wanted a head coaching job. he didn't care. if he did, things wouldn't implode like they did.

now, in regards to those three end of season games. I never expected us to be there in that situation. first year I picked us to be last in the division. last year I didn't take we make it and although I started to have some expectations for the team to start to improve, as soon as we changed to 4-3, I knew we would not succeed, because change of scheme is a 2 game set back minimum. this year, excuses or not, we had a lot of injuries to deal with. our defense was going to struggle switching schemes, but having injuries just made it really really bad.

I think garrett is got a lot to learn, but given circumstances, lack of head coaching experience, he has done as good as possible or better in the current situation dealing with Jerry. we have had better drafts. we have gotten rid of fat cats and locker room cancers. we have some semblance of direction. his game management still needs work, he needs to control room better (but that's jerry more than anything else).

 

[ConstantReboot]

I am disappointed as well. I never bought into the hype neither and I never buy anything jones sells. btw, garrett was offered the job with the ravens.

the only coach that has had true impact on this team has been parcells. we were chaotic, disorganized and lacked direction until he got here. wade's rode the coat tails of parcells with the team, it wasn't wade, it was parcells. we had some of our worst drafts in history under wade and couple of our great drafts with parcells. once we started to draft bad again, the team deteriorated very quickly as we weren't able to replace talent nor provide depth. the team also became lazy, laxed and lacked discipline. which eventually ran out of steam from parcells structure and totally collapsed.

I blame Jerry first, I blame wade and I blame garrett. I have also come to accept that it doesn't matter who the coach is, they come here to fail. the organization as it operates today is not set up to succeed. it will fail and even if it starts to find success, Jerry starts to meddle even more, which leads to failure.

I was against wade as a head coach because he had failed in the past and had proven he might be a great DC, but not a great head coach. the only reason he got the job was because he coached the 3-4 and he was willing to take garrett as an OC. he just wanted a head coaching job. he didn't care. if he did, things wouldn't implode like they did.

now, in regards to those three end of season games. I never expected us to be there in that situation. first year I picked us to be last in the division. last year I didn't take we make it and although I started to have some expectations for the team to start to improve, as soon as we changed to 4-3, I knew we would not succeed, because change of scheme is a 2 game set back minimum. this year, excuses or not, we had a lot of injuries to deal with. our defense was going to struggle switching schemes, but having injuries just made it really really bad.

I think garrett is got a lot to learn, but given circumstances, lack of head coaching experience, he has done as good as possible or better in the current situation dealing with Jerry. we have had better drafts. we have gotten rid of fat cats and locker room cancers. we have some semblance of direction. his game management still needs work, he needs to control room better (but that's jerry more than anything else).

Why do you blame Wade? Jerry was more to blame for the hiring of (both) Wade and Garrett. Wade is a great DC and we needed someone to run the 3-4. Wade was the logical choice at that time. Now his gone there is no point in blaming him because he has no decision making process whatsoever here in Dallas.

Garrett is the man that can change everything right here right now if he wishes. If he change things will there be a chance he will be fired? Of course. But if he doesn't he'll be fired regardless and be blamed for everything. If he decides to go it his own and says to Jones Im doing it my way and you can't stop me, then I'll give that man credit. But for now, he has no balls. I don't really think he knows how to run a organization and he is too stubborn to realize his mistakes and consistently makes them over and over. Not taking the proper risk to win games is a mistake. Garrett is too conservative and would rather lose a game than make a tough decision. Thats my problem with him. He has the chance to make history and right this ship. But he can't. He has a choice just like everyone in life. However, he refuses to buck the system and would rather be a puppet of Jerry.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Why do you blame Wade? Jerry was more to blame for the hiring of (both) Wade and Garrett. Wade is a great DC and we needed someone to run the 3-4. Wade was the logical choice at that time. Now his gone there is no point in blaming him because he has no decision making process whatsoever here in Dallas.

Garrett is the man that can change everything right here right now if he wishes. If he change things will there be a chance he will be fired? Of course. But if he doesn't he'll be fired regardless and be blamed for everything. If he decides to go it his own and says to Jones Im doing it my way and you can't stop me, then I'll give that man credit. But for now, he has no balls. I don't really think he knows how to run a organization and he is too stubborn to realize his mistakes and consistently makes them over and over. Not taking the proper risk to win games is a mistake. Garrett is too conservative and would rather lose a game than make a tough decision. Thats my problem with him. He has the chance to make history and right this ship. But he can't. He has a choice just like everyone in life. However, he refuses to buck the system and would rather be a puppet of Jerry.

if we blame garrett, then we should also blame wade, either wise both are blameless.....they just followed orders.

I like Wade as a DC but not a head coach. we had other choices than wade because wade wasn't head coach material. the problem is Jone's fanatasy football mentality. the whole is not sum of the parts. he was directly responsible for the cowboys becoming lax, losing their edge and becoming soft on how he ran the team and allowed the players run things as opposed to him being the head coach. that's why he was always a players coach.

and garrett doesn't have s much power as we think. he is also a Jerry puppet. he is trying to work around the organizational dysfunction but its not easy. even parcells had problems.

and outside of petrino and Ole' ball coach I have never seen NFL coaches walk away (except after they have won and didn't want to continue football any longer, which is a separate case). they all have egos the size of the stadiums. and I wouldn't be surprised to see Jerry not renew or fire garrett. Jerry is about marketing, fans, dollars, and if firing garrett will generate interest, give fans hope, then he will do it. that's his primary motive. not winning. he does need and want to win, but its secondary to his other objectives.

and its funny you call garrett too conservative, because there is a whole slew of them out there calling him to risk taking. exactly the opposite of your assessment.

also, I am not sure about his chances. I don't think he has a chance, given Jerry's involvement. and once garrett is gone and believe he will be, then the next coach and the cycle begins. call me hopeless, or negative, but I am realist. I don't think we win another championship with Jerry at the helm. very much like the raiders.

 

[ConstantReboot]

if we blame garrett, then we should also blame wade, either wise both are blameless.....they just followed orders.

I like Wade as a DC but not a head coach. we had other choices than wade because wade wasn't head coach material. the problem is Jone's fanatasy football mentality. the whole is not sum of the parts. he was directly responsible for the cowboys becoming lax, losing their edge and becoming soft on how he ran the team and allowed the players run things as opposed to him being the head coach. that's why he was always a players coach.

and garrett doesn't have s much power as we think. he is also a Jerry puppet. he is trying to work around the organizational dysfunction but its not easy. even parcells had problems.

and outside of petrino and Ole' ball coach I have never seen NFL coaches walk away (except after they have won and didn't want to continue football any longer, which is a separate case). they all have egos the size of the stadiums. and I wouldn't be surprised to see Jerry not renew or fire garrett. Jerry is about marketing, fans, dollars, and if firing garrett will generate interest, give fans hope, then he will do it. that's his primary motive. not winning. he does need and want to win, but its secondary to his other objectives.

and its funny you call garrett too conservative, because there is a whole slew of them out there calling him to risk taking. exactly the opposite of your assessment.

also, I am not sure about his chances. I don't think he has a chance, given Jerry's involvement. and once garrett is gone and believe he will be, then the next coach and the cycle begins. call me hopeless, or negative, but I am realist. I don't think we win another championship with Jerry at the helm. very much like the raiders.

You can blame Wade all you want though but it will do nothing. He is the head coach right here, right now. It will get you no where.

Garrett has all the power he wants. He is the head coach of the Cowboys for christ sakes. He just has to execute and put those plans that he has into action. If he has to defy Jerry in doing it his so so be it. There is nothing that is stopping him from doing so except himself. Thus I say he is too scared and afraid to execute things his way because he might make Jerry angry. If thats the case than he has no reason to be coaching the Cowboys. He needs to give up pretending he is a real coach and step down because we need a real coach with real balls to defy Jerry and tell it as it is - even though its going to piss off the establishment.

Garrett is also afraid to make the decisions. When its 4th down and short he is the coach that goes for it the least amount of times. Now that is playing to lose rather than playing to win. We need a coach that can make the BEST decisions on the spot despite losing a game. Garrett doesn't do decisions. He hands that responsibility off to Romo or to Callahan. Thus if you can't make the tough decisions to put your team into a winning situation why call any of the plays? Thus I agree with Jerry on replacing Garrett as the playcaller.

Garrett is not the right coach for this team. He lacks the balls to make tough decisions. He is also too inexperience to make those tough decisions during crunch time. Thus the reason why we lose games that are close. See Lions and Packers game.

Most importantly, Garrett is to afraid of Jerry. He is scared to get fired. Thus his nothing more than a puppet. Does he have a choice on how he should coach the Cowboys? Of course he does. There is nothing stopping him on enacting what he wants done with this team without Jerry's approval. His the coach of the Cowboys thus he needs to act like it.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

ok, the wade conversation came about when people blamed garrett for Wade's failures. all I am saying we can't excuse one and blame the other. a head coach is responsible at the end oof the day. garrett doesn't have all the power. he has certain powers. thus there is always that asterisk when judging any of the cowboys coaches because of Jerry. and you can't just defy your boss. there needs to be the working relationship between the coach and the GM. all you have to do is look at SF with jim harbaugh and the rift between head coach and GM and its going to start to affect the team.

btw, when parcells was here, he tried execting his way and he got over ridden by jerry. he left at the end, but you can't get confrontational at every situation and argue. and again how many coaches step down from their jobs. good or bad? what you are asking and expecting is asinine. sorry no other way to put it. either defy jerry or quit? really!! that's your expectations for Garrett? and there are about 1000 opinions of how things should be run in dallas on this board alone. and everyone insists they are right. so should garrett do all the 1000 things?

and I actually think he is a decision maker. more so than wade who rolled over and asked jerry to rub his belly or campo. he has been able to do certain things that only parcells did, like discipline players and get rid of those who don't fit the team. some of them were jerry favorites (including barber and davis).

and to your point about losing close games. some of it is him. he has taken accountability for that. some of it is romo which goes back to jerry wanting romo more involved in the offense and offensive game planning and more control of the offense. Jerry thinks romo is Peyton manning. I actually liked it when garrett said, we called a lot of run plays and they were changed at the line after the GB game. up to that point, he had defended romo to no end. at some point, hold him accountable. I think garrett is not afraid of Jerry. he wants to have a working relationship and teach jerry not to be so Hollywood. in fact it was well reported that he wanted to pick Floyd on draft day and jerry over ruled him and garrett stormed out of the room.

and if you think defiance and fighting jerry is going to solve our problems, then I am glad you are not the decision maker. you obviously lack the tact and know how to work in a large organization,with high level executives. arguing, fighting, defying is actually the worst thing you can do. it will tear the team apart.

 

[Alexander]

Funny that Red said he would run the ball more after he took over…you know, to help the defense. What a joke that guy is.

He has said all the politically correct things about the running game, but when it has come down to it, he has proven over and over that he does not trust the running game.

I understood that when our line was awful, but there was no excuse late last season when there were few teams as productive per carry. With that in mind, I have little reason to believe anything he says about a commitment to the run game.

 

[ConstantReboot]

ok, the wade conversation came about when people blamed garrett for Wade's failures. all I am saying we can't excuse one and blame the other. a head coach is responsible at the end oof the day. garrett doesn't have all the power. he has certain powers. thus there is always that asterisk when judging any of the cowboys coaches because of Jerry. and you can't just defy your boss. there needs to be the working relationship between the coach and the GM. all you have to do is look at SF with jim harbaugh and the rift between head coach and GM and its going to start to affect the team.

btw, when parcells was here, he tried execting his way and he got over ridden by jerry. he left at the end, but you can't get confrontational at every situation and argue. and again how many coaches step down from their jobs. good or bad? what you are asking and expecting is asinine. sorry no other way to put it. either defy jerry or quit? really!! that's your expectations for Garrett? and there are about 1000 opinions of how things should be run in dallas on this board alone. and everyone insists they are right. so should garrett do all the 1000 things?

and I actually think he is a decision maker. more so than wade who rolled over and asked jerry to rub his belly or campo. he has been able to do certain things that only parcells did, like discipline players and get rid of those who don't fit the team. some of them were jerry favorites (including barber and davis).

and to your point about losing close games. some of it is him. he has taken accountability for that. some of it is romo which goes back to jerry wanting romo more involved in the offense and offensive game planning and more control of the offense. Jerry thinks romo is Peyton manning. I actually liked it when garrett said, we called a lot of run plays and they were changed at the line after the GB game. up to that point, he had defended romo to no end. at some point, hold him accountable. I think garrett is not afraid of Jerry. he wants to have a working relationship and teach jerry not to be so Hollywood. in fact it was well reported that he wanted to pick Floyd on draft day and jerry over ruled him and garrett stormed out of the room.

and if you think defiance and fighting jerry is going to solve our problems, then I am glad you are not the decision maker. you obviously lack the tact and know how to work in a large organization,with high level executives. arguing, fighting, defying is actually the worst thing you can do. it will tear the team apart.

Defying Jerry works. I don't care how you put it or crazy as it sounds. Defying Jerry helps the organization and sets the sinking boat afloat. That is something Garrett can do right here right now. Its his choice. IF he gets fired by Jerry so be it. At least he did the right thing. I WOULD DO THE RIGHT THING. Is it because his getting all that money to keep his mouth shut and be a puppet? Probably. But like I said - he needs to have a set of balls and he doesn't. Which is too bad because if he did defy Jerry and try to set this boat in the right direction, Jerry might actually go along with it. Think about it. Garrett has more power right now than anyone in Cowboys history. If Jerry wants to can Garrett for defying him who else will come here and coach? No one. The media will be after Jerry for firing the head coach and not having a coach in waiting. Jerry will look bad and that is the very thing that he hates the most.

So like I stated Garrett needs to do the right thing. Stop trying to be a genius. Be a real coach for one. Put Jerry in his place and start making the changes to this organization the right way. Its his only hope. Frankly, his going to fired anyways. Not a lot of people have faith in him. Just ask the forum members. Jerry treats him like his little lap dog. This might be his last year here. If he can't right the ship his way, his nothing more than a coward - and right now he is being nothing but a coward. So I don't see why he has to follow Jerry's wishes? Take Jerry behind close doors tell him off and tell him to stick it up his +++. Garrett really does have a choice.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Defying Jerry works. I don't care how you put it or crazy as it sounds. Defying Jerry helps the organization and sets the sinking boat afloat. That is something Garrett can do right here right now. Its his choice. IF he gets fired by Jerry so be it. At least he did the right thing. I WOULD DO THE RIGHT THING. Is it because his getting all that money to keep his mouth shut and be a puppet? Probably. But like I said - he needs to have a set of balls and he doesn't. Which is too bad because if he did defy Jerry and try to set this boat in the right direction, Jerry might actually go along with it. Think about it. Garrett has more power right now than anyone in Cowboys history. If Jerry wants to can Garrett for defying him who else will come here and coach? No one. The media will be after Jerry for firing the head coach and not having a coach in waiting. Jerry will look bad and that is the very thing that he hates the most.

So like I stated Garrett needs to do the right thing. Stop trying to be a genius. Be a real coach for one. Put Jerry in his place and start making the changes to this organization the right way. Its his only hope. Frankly, his going to fired anyways. Not a lot of people have faith in him. Just ask the forum members. Jerry treats him like his little lap dog. This might be his last year here. If he can't right the ship his way, his nothing more than a coward - and right now he is being nothing but a coward. So I don't see why he has to follow Jerry's wishes? Take Jerry behind close doors tell him off and tell him to stick it up his +++. Garrett really does have a choice.

so you say, to satisfy you and the fans. Garrett should defy his boss at the risk of getting fired!!! would you do it or is it that you are willing to do it because its not you? do you do it? do you defy your boss and fight him? at the risk of being fired?

and its childish to talk about having balls and being a man and fighting!!! seriously? do you understand how corporate world works? does every coach fight their boss... and look at what happened in Oakland, with coaches who did fight Al Davis. all got fired.... so you think of them very highly for standing up to the boss, and pat them on the back before the door is slammed on them....seriously!!!! that's your suggestion and mentality.

and before you say no one would coach the cowboys because garrett fought and argued with Jerry. lets see campo, gaily, switzer and wade were all willing to do it. there will be other coaches, worse than garrett that would jump at the opportunity of being a head coach. Jerry treats everyone like his lapdog. outside of parcells, which other coach wasn't treated like a lapdog. and oh, yeah, they all were fired and I guess things got better with the next coach that came through the door.

I think the choice you are recommending is idiotic to say the list. its a high school, nope...middle school mentality.....

 

[ConstantReboot]

so you say, to satisfy you and the fans. Garrett should defy his boss at the risk of getting fired!!! would you do it or is it that you are willing to do it because its not you? do you do it? do you defy your boss and fight him? at the risk of being fired?

and its childish to talk about having balls and being a man and fighting!!! seriously? do you understand how corporate world works? does every coach fight their boss... and look at what happened in Oakland, with coaches who did fight Al Davis. all got fired.... so you think of them very highly for standing up to the boss, and pat them on the back before the door is slammed on them....seriously!!!! that's your suggestion and mentality.

and before you say no one would coach the cowboys because garrett fought and argued with Jerry. lets see campo, gaily, switzer and wade were all willing to do it. there will be other coaches, worse than garrett that would jump at the opportunity of being a head coach. Jerry treats everyone like his lapdog. outside of parcells, which other coach wasn't treated like a lapdog. and oh, yeah, they all were fired and I guess things got better with the next coach that came through the door.

I think the choice you are recommending is idiotic to say the list. its a high school, nope...middle school mentality.....

I didn't say he should defy anyone including Jerry. But if he really wants to get things done his way he will most certainly have to defy Jones and just do whats right.

Who cares if Jason gets fired. He's on the verge of getting fired anyways so your point is moot. Yes, Jason does not have balls. He is nothing more than Jerry's lap dog. He also has a choice to right this ship. It may get him fired so be it. He sucks as a coach anyways. So he should have nothing to lose.

My suggestions aren't idiotic. Standing by a coach who is mediocre and preaching like his the greatest thing since slice bread is idiotic. Something needs to be done drastically. But Jason has no balls to make any type of change his wants. Frankly, I don't think he knows how.

As for me knowing how business works you can lay off the personal stuff. I run a successful business myself so I know exactly how it works.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I didn't say he should defy anyone including Jerry. But if he really wants to get things done his way he will most certainly have to defy Jones and just do whats right.

Who cares if Jason gets fired. He's on the verge of getting fired anyways so your point is moot. Yes, Jason does not have balls. He is nothing more than Jerry's lap dog. He also has a choice to right this ship. It may get him fired so be it. He sucks as a coach anyways. So he should have nothing to lose.

My suggestions aren't idiotic. Standing by a coach who is mediocre and preaching like his the greatest thing since slice bread is idiotic. Something needs to be done drastically. But Jason has no balls to make any type of change his wants. Frankly, I don't think he knows how.

As for me knowing how business works you can lay off the personal stuff. I run a successful business myself so I know exactly how it works.

I am not standing by thecoach. its just that your comments are middle schoolish. stand up to jerry. defy him. do what you want? show me an organization that anyone can just go around and do what they want. and yes Garrett sucks. but he doesn't think he does. so you as a fan say he should look in the mirror and say I suck. I am going to act like a child. and if I get fired so be it because I suck.

then why don't you do the same? you suck as a fan who comments on this board. you should just quit and leave the board and not comment any more. you have been defiant enough. so now you are fired!!!!

seriously dude. grow up..... I am done with this conversation. waste of my time.

 

[ConstantReboot]

I am not standing by thecoach. its just that your comments are middle schoolish. stand up to jerry. defy him. do what you want? show me an organization that anyone can just go around and do what they want. and yes Garrett sucks. but he doesn't think he does. so you as a fan say he should look in the mirror and say I suck. I am going to act like a child. and if I get fired so be it because I suck.

then why don't you do the same? you suck as a fan who comments on this board. you should just quit and leave the board and not comment any more. you have been defiant enough. so now you are fired!!!!

seriously dude. grow up..... I am done with this conversation. waste of my time.

LMAO your not standing by the coach? Get real. You've been his #1 stalwart defender in this forum. I just stating the flaws in your argument that Garrett has a choice and you go on bickering with the name calling about him. Dude, seriously....Garrett does suck. If you don't like that people think that way thats your problem, not theirs.

 

[Idgit]

LMAO your not standing by the coach? Get real. You've been his #1 stalwart defender in this forum. I just stating the flaws in your argument that Garrett has a choice and you go on bickering with the name calling about him. Dude, seriously....Garrett does suck. If you don't like that people think that way thats your problem, not theirs.

I stand by the coach, and don't buy into your argument, either, fwiw. I believe there's zero chance any coach ever helps the team by making a habit of defying Jones to do 'what's right.' What he has to do is convince Jerry Jones *he's* right and Jerry's other information is wrong. And then he needs to be sure he's right about it. Nobody's ever going to last in Dallas any other way, and it would be foolish, and counterproductive, to try.

That said, I still like the coach, he doesn't suck, you're wrong, and if people don't like that, well, then people don't like it. Fans are silly sometimes.

 

[Hoofbite]

The idea that Jason was for Dan Reeves or help is simply dis-proven by the fact that as soon as the Dan Reeves fiasco was finished, there was no consultant at all brought in. There was no consultant to assist in the running game. Jason went back to doing what he was doing. Jason went back to total control of the offense.

Funny how Reeves was about to sign and a last minute "he didn't want to punch in the clock" became an issue.

And irrespective of what happened, you missed the point, which was Wade wanting to bring in one of the most disciplined coaches in the NFL history, a no nonsense guy who is very controlling over his teams, a guy like Marty Schottenheimer whom Wade is also affiliated with and coached with. What a Cupcake type of guy... LOL

What does not wanting to punch the clock even mean?

There's an ESPN article where the hiccup was supposedly over job title.

It was just a weird situation. I don't remember reeves having already started to attend meetings.

 

[Beast_from_East]

I stand by the coach, and don't buy into your argument, either, fwiw. I believe there's zero chance any coach ever helps the team by making a habit of defying Jones to do 'what's right.' What he has to do is convince Jerry Jones *he's* right and Jerry's other information is wrong. And then he needs to be sure he's right about it. Nobody's ever going to last in Dallas any other way, and it would be foolish, and counterproductive, to try.

That said, I still like the coach, he doesn't suck, you're wrong, and if people don't like that, well, then people don't like it. Fans are silly sometimes.

What makes you right and that other poster wrong?

He says Garrett sucks and you tell him he is wrong and fans are silly.......................maybe that is your personal opinion, but that doesn't make you right and him wrong.

And for the record he does suck, so I guess its 2 to 1 right now.

 

[BigStar]

He has said all the politically correct things about the running game, but when it has come down to it, he has proven over and over that he does not trust the running game.

I understood that when our line was awful, but there was no excuse late last season when there were few teams as productive per carry. With that in mind, I have little reason to believe anything he says about a commitment to the run game.

Very true, if Andy gets himself a legit QB it will be back to 65/35 but he did adapt to his talent very well last season. He is also in another world of offensive creativity compared to JG (Staley, Westbrook, McCoy) and would've been a good choice last season.

 

[Idgit]

What does not wanting to punch the clock even mean?

There's an ESPN article where the hiccup was supposedly over job title.

It was just a weird situation. I don't remember reeves having already started to attend meetings.

I think those were the reports at th

What makes you right and that other poster wrong?

He says Garrett sucks and you tell him he is wrong and fans are silly.......................maybe that is your personal opinion, but that doesn't make you right and him wrong.

And for the record he does suck, so I guess its 2 to 1 right now.

Yep. That one was just my opinion. But my reasoning is on record in dozens of threads. And the odds on this topic are a lot longer than 2:1.