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Displaced Cowboy;2959687 said:
when you're 3-10 for 24 yds and a interception what are you contributing?

we nearly one because barber and jones were gashing the giants defense.

could have put mcgee out there and handed the ball off and the same results would have happened.
No, they wouldn't have. It is a shame that isn't obvious.
 

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Displaced Cowboy;2959687 said:
when you're 3-10 for 24 yds and a interception what are you contributing?

we nearly one because barber and jones were gashing the giants defense.

could have put mcgee out there and handed the ball off and the same results would have happened.

Romo had a bad game...it happens. Don't go overboard with the McGee comments.
 

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Sorry came in late, so if repeating, then ignore.

While not yet willing to give up on Romo, I see no significant progress, that is, unless one considers handling the ball with "two hands" as significant progress.

I'm starting to think he is what he is -- a very inconsistent second tier starter.

I look forward to being proven wrong.
 

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Here's a question, let's say that Romo goes a couple more seasons without a playoff win and then leads the Cowboys into the playoffs as the wild card and has a string of games like this...

4 games, 4 wins, QB rating of 70.5, 3 TD 7 INT and 1 FUM lost. No games above 80 QB rating.

Would that vindicate him, just because of the wins, or would fans say we won in spite of Romo?

Those stats were Peyton Manning's, during his SB run.
 

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masomenos85;2959721 said:
Here's a question, let's say that Romo goes a couple more seasons without a playoff win and then leads the Cowboys into the playoffs as the wild card and has a string of games like this...

4 games, 4 wins, QB rating of 70.5, 3 TD 7 INT and 1 FUM lost. No games above 80 QB rating.

Would that vindicate him, just because of the wins, or would fans say we won in spite of Romo?

Those stats were Peyton Manning's, during his SB run.

If his name is Romo, then we won in spite of him.

If he changed his last name to Manning and we could find linkage to the Manning family clan, then all would be forgiven.
 

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Hostile;2959649 said:
Hey, here's an idea, before you call me a homer, why don't you read my "Touch of Hostility" thread about last night's game.

No charge for the lesson.

Okay, I read your post. I must say, after reading your stuff for years, I was somewhat surprised that you gave any blame to Romo. Kudos to you for that. I just wonder how many big games does he have to be terrible in before you begin to assess that he may not be the answer here? I "support" him, because he is our only hope . He does not seem to EVER learn a THING. He makes the same mistakes, over, and over, and over. Yes, he looks great in most of the "less big" games, but not so much in the true big games, late season, playoff type of games.

If you really think that opening a new 1.2 billion dollar home didn't make for a bigger than normal game, perhaps you should rethink your self-inflated ego mandated assessment of what a "lesson" really is. I guarantee you that the game last night was bigger than normal for a few reasons, prominent among them was the opening of a new home. There was also the fact it was a division game. It was against what will probably prove to be our biggest challenger to the division title. And there had to be some revenge factor working, I would think.

You'll just have to excuse me. Sometimes your holier-than-thou attitude just rubs me the wrong way.
 

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Vintage;2959728 said:
If his name is Romo, then we won in spite of him.

If he changed his last name to Manning and we could find linkage to the Manning family clan, then all would be forgiven.

That sounds about right.

Another hypothetical...

If Romo took us to the SB and laid an absolute egg, completed less than 10 passes, threw 2 picks, no TDs and had a sub-25 QB rating...do you think fans would say "Romo, choking again"?

Of course they would.

Those SB stats are, of course, Roethlisberger's .
 

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masomenos85;2959747 said:
That sounds about right.

Another hypothetical...

If Romo took us to the SB and laid an absolute egg, completed less than 10 passes, threw 2 picks, no TDs and had a sub-25 QB rating...do you think fans would say "Romo, choking again"?

Of course they would.

Those SB stats are, of course, Roethlisberger's .

Difference of course... is this.

Roethlisberger's goose egg willed his team to victory and showed pure guts, determination, and mad skillz.

If Romo did that, he choked.




Does Romo get careless at times? You betcha.

It sure would be nice if Romo had the luxury of a defense he could rely on week in, week out. As it stands, Romo enters a game knowing he probably has to lead at least 3 TD drives and probably a fourth scoring driving to give us a chance of winning.
 

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that the fans actually thought this was a BIG game only speaks to the quality of salesmen that Jerry is.

was a division loss, and we will play them again. nothing more, nothing less.

Fans say jerry is an idiot for the way he runs the team, then they say what they would do differently and it becomes apparent that Jerry is a friggin genius.

Tony is one of the better players in the league, notice I didn't even single him out as one of the better QBs.
 

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In the last day or so, you have earned the distinction of being my first ignore ever.

juckie;2959300 said:
Unfortunately its the same elementary mistakes he made since he started.
In fact I believe his first start was about the same as last night.
Has he learned anything?
Has he just come full circle?
 

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randy932;2959729 said:
Okay, I read your post. I must say, after reading your stuff for years, I was somewhat surprised that you gave any blame to Romo. Kudos to you for that. I just wonder how many big games does he have to be terrible in before you begin to assess that he may not be the answer here? I "support" him, because he is our only hope . He does not seem to EVER learn a THING. He makes the same mistakes, over, and over, and over. Yes, he looks great in most of the "less big" games, but not so much in the true big games, late season, playoff type of games.
You've "read me for years?" Okay, when was I ever complimentary of Testaverde, Johnson, Quincy or Hutch?

Wouldn't I have to be in order to be a homer?

I am a Wade fan? Show me proof of that. I'd like to see it. To be a homer wouldn't I have to be? Hell I wasn't even a Parcells fan.

Go back and look, I predicted we would lose the finale last year. I post about the post Thanksgiving day skids dating back to 1997 every year. These are homer posts? Seriously?

Or is a homer someone who doesn't share your views? That's rather narrow minded.

There is no doubt I will defend this team and the players when I think people go overboard. I will not deny that. I even will defend Jerry from time to time because I think people have no idea what a GM does. But there is no homer in me.

If you really think that opening a new 1.2 billion dollar home didn't make for a bigger than normal game, perhaps you should rethink your self-inflated ego mandated assessment of what a "lesson" really is. I guarantee you that the game last night was bigger than normal for a few reasons, prominent among them was the opening of a new home. There was also the fact it was a division game. It was against what will probably prove to be our biggest challenger to the division title. And there had to be some revenge factor working, I would think.
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I love that. My "lesson" was about being called a homer, it had nothing to do with my opinion on the game or anything else.

I am not saying it wasn't a big game. It was. No doubt. I think it is ridiculous to say it is bigger than November games. Nothing more than that. There are crucial games in November. Ours against the Packers for Home Field Advantage was. Beating a division rival is a big game, even when that rival is not very good. Beating an undefeated team is a big game.

If you ask me whether I'd rather win the Stadium opener or a crucial November game against a division rival I will choose the game later in the season almost every time.

Yes, I have extreme pride in the Stadium. I hate that we lost. I hate more that we lost in the Texas Stadium finale last year. I hate it a lot more. The fact it was the opener for the stadium can be uber important to you and feed your bitterness if you wish. That's your right. I am not infringing on your right to be butt hurt and pissed off. I am too.

But the idea that we don't win any big games is nonsense. Pure and simple nonsense that is fed by emotions. That was and is the topic I have been discussing. The idea we cannot win any big games.

You'll just have to excuse me. Sometimes your holier-than-thou attitude just rubs me the wrong way.
I don't care. I really don't. There is nothing I can do about it. You'll either like me or dislike me based upon whatever preconceived bias you have of me. I can't change that.

If you think I feel I am better than anyone else on this site then you don't have clue one about me. I am an abrasive, sarcastic football junkie who loves the Cowboys. Those who know me best know how hard I will work to serve any member of this forum.

I take losing every bit as hard as anyone on here. The one thing I refuse to do is lose my freaking mind and act like this is life or death after 2 weeks of a season.
 

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I think the answer is obvious Hostile. And its really sad you can't see it.


Billboard.

We need a billboard.

Then, championship.
 

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Vintage;2959849 said:
I think the answer is obvious Hostile. And its really sad you can't see it.


Billboard.

We need a billboard.

Then, championship.
Yeah, I just can't catch that vision either. They need to make Nyquil stronger so I am more deluded I think.
 

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Hostile;2959853 said:
Yeah, I just can't catch that vision either. They need to make Nyquil stronger so I am more deluded I think.


Actually (and I know you don't drink), if you get drunk.... it makes perfect sense.

Billboards = championship.

Then again, I also thought punching a brick wall when drunk made sense, too. All I got out of it was two fractured fingers.
 

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Hostile;2959853 said:
Yeah, I just can't catch that vision either. They need to make Nyquil stronger so I am more deluded I think.

Nah, you need tussin.

Actually, you need anything with dextromethorphan in it.

Drink the whole bottle and you'll get a feeling closely resembling that of PCP.
 

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I bet jerry would put up a "fire jerry" sign in the stadium and laugh all the way to the bank at the idiots who paid for it.

actually, that would be the most awesome thing ever conceived by man. Other than buehler.
 

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Four;2959873 said:
I bet jerry would put up a "fire jerry" sign in the stadium and laugh all the way to the bank at the idiots who paid for it.

actually, that would be the most awesome thing ever conceived by man. Other than buehler.

yeah, except Buehler was conceived by Zeus and that one Roman *****
 

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Romo was awful last night, but the only part of his game that drives me nuts is the pick where he just flung the ball downfield to Hurd thinking there was a big play to be had. That is the play he has to eliminate from his game if he wants to win a Super Bowl. Sometimes you need to stop going for the big play and move the ball down field like Manning did on the last drive. Be happy when you get the 10 and 15 yard completions. There was no reason for that play, if he can control those urges, he will get closer to being a complete QB.
 
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