Garrett outcoached boy genius

[cowboy_ron]

There is really no way for us to know that as long as Jerry is large and in charge.

Hell. For all we know Garrett could have won 2 SBs by now if he didn't have to deal with that imbecile as his Owner and GM.

Well I can't argue that

 

[Angus12]

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[willia451]

I watch a lot of football and attempt to be unbiased. I honestly haven’t seen a SB team here in over 2 decades.

We just can’t be sure our coaching from Gailey to Garrett in last 20+ years is as responsible as not as great of talent to win win or even play for a championship.

I think if I truly believed this was a championship caliber team I’d be more upset. Instead I think we’re in that next echelon of teams which isn’t that bad of place to be.

My point is people bash Garrett for being a mediocre or bad coach. Well, where did people like Jaylon Smith and Gavin Escobar come from? Jerry. We waste high picks. Just throw them away. Based on the whims of an idiot. Then everybody is forced to try to make it work because it was a "Jerry" pick.

So how do we know? How will we ever know if our HC is good or bad? That was Troy's point. 23 years of fail tells you something. And its not coaching or players. Because we've rolled out multiple iterations of that.

Just by random chance the Cowboys should have made an NFCCG by now.

But whatever. Is what it is. Fire Garrett. Move on to the next one.

Fine with me. We are given little choice.

 

[Diehardblues]

Well I can't argue that

I think I could . I don’t think we’ve had a SB caliber team. And whether we had Jerry or not with the rosters we’ve fielded certainly hasn’t looked a SB champion if we’re using most of the teams that have won championships as measurable.

That doesn’t mean Jerry hasn’t been the culprit on not building a better team but these eyes haven’t felt any Titles have been left on the field like in 1994 or 1980, 1979, 1975, 1970, 1966 and 1967.

 

[mrmojo]

How can he out coach anybody when he is just a walk around coach? I have no idea what the guy does. Great win though...

 

[CowboysBravesSpurs]

Funny how the tables turned with Jason basically knocking the Rams out of the playoffs a week after the Rams looked they were back with an impressive win against Seattle.

The boy genius everyone was heralding last year as the new model for coaching in the NFL as he took it to Garrett in the playoffs going to Super Bowl has suddenly turned sour.

How could a spiraling down HC like Garrett blow out a genius in almost every facet of the game but the coin flip?

Your fixation with Garrett is disturbing. The guy wins 1 game against a winning team, and you want to give him all the credit? The ginger is garbage. Get over it.

 

[Diehardblues]

My point is people bash Garrett for being a mediocre or bad coach. Well, where did people like Jaylon Smith and Gavin Escobar come from? Jerry. We waste high picks. Just throw them away. Based on the whims of an idiot. Then everybody is forced to try to make it work because it was a "Jerry" pick.

So how do we know? How will we ever know if our HC is good or bad? That was Troy's point. 23 years of fail tells you something. And its not coaching or players. Because we've rolled out multiple iterations of that.

Just by random chance the Cowboys should have made an NFCCG by now.

But whatever. Is what it is. Fire Garrett. Move on to the next one.

Fine with me. We are given little choice.

I agree. I don’t believe Jerry’s built a SB caliber team. Has he amassed some talent. Sure , but championship caliber?

I don’t think our coaching is holding us back as much as our talent. I haven’t seen a Cowboy team that measures up to any of our previous championship contenders .

 

[CowboysBravesSpurs]

Jason didn't get outcoached because he did less coaching than usual. It was obvious that it was more of a Moore-influenced game plan - looked a lot like weeks 1-3 before JG got in the way in the Saints game.

And no, it's not hypocritical or anything to give players credit when they win and give JG credit for losses. This team wins - as it has for a long time - because of talent and in spite of the head coach's game day incompetence.

I saw plays we’ve never ran before last night. Also Dak was changing plays a lot. Garrett really didn’t do much. I’d give more credit to Moore, the defensive staff, & the players before the clapper.

 

[Diehardblues]

Your fixation with Garrett is disturbing. The guy wins 1 game against a winning team, and you want to give him all the credit? The ginger is garbage. Get over it.

I’m just saying if you’re going to blame him for all of the losses then he must receive credit for the wins.

My support of Garrett revolves around our limitations with Jerry.

Half of the league has average to below average HC’s.

 

[Diehardblues]

I saw plays we’ve never ran before last night. Also Dak was changing plays a lot. Garrett really didn’t do much. I’d give more credit to Moore, the defensive staff, & the players before the clapper.

Did you blame Moore for the bad calls and lack of execution in the losses ?

 

[CowboysBravesSpurs]

I’m just saying if you’re going to blame him for all of the losses then he must receive credit for the wins.

My support of Garrett revolves around our limitations with Jerry.

Half of the league has average to below average HC’s.

“Half of the league has average to below average HC’s.”

So that’s a reason to keep Garrett? You’re fine with mediocrity? I guess you’re okay with multiple 8-8 seasons, but I’m not. We need a change, for better or worse.

 

[Diehardblues]

“Half of the league has average to below average HC’s.”

So that’s a reason to keep Garrett? You’re fine with mediocrity? I guess you’re okay with multiple 8-8 seasons, but I’m not. We need a change, for better or worse.

No, Jerry is fine with mediocrity. He’s the one that’s doesn’t want to win bad enough. Or he’d get the hell out of the way with his selfish agendas.

 

[CowboysBravesSpurs]

Did you blame Moore for the bad calls and lack of execution in the losses ?

I’ve criticized him for giving up too early on the run in games, and predictable play calling. Still his first season as an OC, seems like he’s doing pretty decent.

But when it comes to not going for it in the red zone with 2 minutes left in the game, that’s all on Garrett. Clapping at the players after we just punt or turnover the ball with less than 3 minutes on the clock, that’s Garrett.

Like I said, your fixation with Garrett is disturbing. Your need to defend him at every length is laughable. The guy has had no positive impact since being made HC. Are you ginger like him? Is that why you like him? I really can’t imagine anyone being a fan of that garbage wannabe HC.

 

[DandyDon52]

Funny how the tables turned with Jason basically knocking the Rams out of the playoffs a week after the Rams looked they were back with an impressive win against Seattle.

The boy genius everyone was heralding last year as the new model for coaching in the NFL as he took it to Garrett in the playoffs going to Super Bowl has suddenly turned sour.

How could a spiraling down HC like Garrett blow out a genius in almost every facet of the game but the coin flip?

Well it isnt really out coaching, mcvay calls the offensive plays does he not?
I will say this mcvay was bad in this game, I did not like the 4th and 10 go for it
in the 3rd qtr, I would take the fg there.
He didnt replace goff who was awful from the start, and same for gurley who
was also very bad.
JG just did his usual thing, and was better than mcvay just doing nothing bad.
pederson won a SB, but cant beat dallas, so is JG better than him?
The nfl is so weird it looks like it is all fixed.
I will say this too both pederson and mcvay are in 3rd year ? and 1 has won a SB and the other got to the SB, and both are still learning.JG is in his 9th or 10th year and cant get past div round and is also still learning lol.

 

[Diehardblues]

Well it isnt really out coaching, mcvay calls the offensive plays does he not?
I will say this mcvay was bad in this game, I did not like the 4th and 10 go for it
in the 3rd qtr, I would take the fg there.
He didnt replace goff who was awful from the start, and same for gurley who
was also very bad.
JG just did his usual thing, and was better than mcvay just doing nothing bad.
pederson won a SB, but cant beat dallas, so is JG better than him?
The nfl is so weird it looks like it is all fixed.
I will say this too both pederson and mcvay are in 3rd year ? and 1 has won a SB and the other got to the SB, and both are still learning.JG is in his 9th or 10th year and cant get past div round and is also still learning lol.

So, our only means to measure coaching is how far their roster takes them?

 

[Diehardblues]

I’ve criticized him for giving up too early on the run in games, and predictable play calling. Still his first season as an OC, seems like he’s doing pretty decent.

But when it comes to not going for it in the red zone with 2 minutes left in the game, that’s all on Garrett. Clapping at the players after we just punt or turnover the ball with less than 3 minutes on the clock, that’s Garrett.

Like I said, your fixation with Garrett is disturbing. Your need to defend him at every length is laughable. The guy has had no positive impact since being made HC. Are you ginger like him? Is that why you like him? I really can’t imagine anyone being a fan of that garbage wannabe HC.

If your not able to argue or discuss without inflicting personal insults and innuendos then don’t waste my time and FO.

And I’m a supporter of Garrett because up until now he’s been the most influential puppet in building a better team and attempting to keep it on tract despite the disturbing distractions and meddling from Jerry that has detoured better coaches here than Garrett.

 

[Chuck 54]

It's not hypocrisy. The team can lose and it's clear coaching was a major issue. And the team can win and it be clear that coaching wasn't the reason they won. A completely random blowout win after a string of losses usually isn't due to great coaching.

If you don’t think coaching had a huge impact on that game, you epither weren’t watching or don’t know much about football. Someone somewhere suddenly decided that our defense was too vanilla and predictable. We were changing looks, disguising coverages, sending surprise blitzes from different looks, like third and long, making it look like a three man rush with others backed off, but then sending a delayed blitz of a DB after the OL had committed. I don’t care if Garrett asked for it or Richard finally had a light go on, but coaching actually had our defense put in positions to be successful.

Coaching had everything to do with the outcome.

 

[texbumthelife]

Funny how the tables turned with Jason basically knocking the Rams out of the playoffs a week after the Rams looked they were back with an impressive win against Seattle.

The boy genius everyone was heralding last year as the new model for coaching in the NFL as he took it to Garrett in the playoffs going to Super Bowl has suddenly turned sour.

How could a spiraling down HC like Garrett blow out a genius in almost every facet of the game but the coin flip?

You should have just stopped when you got to the part about McVay coaching in the Superbowl last year.

 

[buybuydandavis]

You mentioned the coin flip. Today it's been reported that the gaff came from D. Lawrence talking Dak into changing what we wanted to do at the last second. Dak was going to receive, D Law wanted the defense on the field. Since when do the players decide what we do if we win the toss? That's pretty obvious proof that the players aren't listening to the HC. They make their own decisions on something like that? Good Lord.

More confusion about what to do on special teams, and how to do it. It's Garrett's responsibility to manage the ST Coach, but it's the latter's responsibility to make sure his squad knows what they're supposed to do.

This is just another case where the team wasn't prepared. The captain making the call should have a standard sentence to say for both taking the kick and kicking away. He should be told which one to say. It's hard to believe they let Dak make the call out there, but whatever the truth of that is, we weren't prepared. End of story. That ST guy has got to go.

 

[CowboysBravesSpurs]

If your not able to argue or discuss without inflicting personal insults and innuendos then don’t waste my time and FO.

And I’m a supporter of Garrett because up until now he’s been the most influential puppet in building a better team and attempting to keep it on tract despite the disturbing distractions and meddling from Jerry that has detoured better coaches here than Garrett.

Personal insults? How do I know that you’re a red head? lol. It was a joke at the expense of The Carrot.

“And I’m a supporter of Garrett because up until now he’s been the most influential puppet in building a better team and attempting to keep it on tract despite the disturbing distractions and meddling from Jerry that has detoured better coaches here than Garrett.”

So you support him because he’s the best puppet we can have? That’s a terrible excuse for supporting a guy who couldn’t win with multiple versions of this team. There’s literally no point in keeping him. He’s had his chance. 10 years is enough. There needs to be a change at the HC position, for better or worse.

Majority of people, Cowboys fan or not, agree that he should be gone. He honestly should’ve been gone a long time ago. It’s really baffling to me how you can continue to support mediocrity.

“The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results” - Albert Einstein