Garrett > Payton

[WV Cowboy]

If you can't see that this team is taking on what Garrett is selling, you are willfully blind.

The last two games have not looked like any team that Garrett has coached since he has been here.

 

[rcaldw]

The last two games have not looked like any team that Garrett has coached since he has been here.

lol, are you for real WV, or is this comedy? I'm serious. What about BUILDING a program do you not understand? The last 7 games Troy Aikman played in 1990 did not mildly resemble 1989 or the first 7 games of 1990. It was like a switch was thrown. That was in the midst of THE SAME SEASON. You guys kill me.

 

[Seven]

I can agree with you to a great extent on your first point, but I think the whole different situations thing is overblown because I don't think ANYONE has consistently won under Jerry since Jimmy left. Good golly look at this team's history since 1996. Why in the world can't people just admit, that if this thing gets turned around, Jason Garrett DESERVES a lot of credit.

Agreed.

Being the liaison between that drunken lunatic and The Dallas Cowboys....................Garrett is a genius with the patience of a moon rock.

Tip my hat to him.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I can agree with you to a great extent on your first point, but I think the whole different situations thing is overblown because I don't think ANYONE has consistently won under Jerry since Jimmy left. Good golly look at this team's history since 1996. Why in the world can't people just admit, that if this thing gets turned around, Jason Garrett DESERVES a lot of credit.

Parcells produced 3 seasons of 9 wins or more with Quincy Carter, Vinny Testaverde, Drew Bledsoe and then Romo for about 10 games.

Wade went 33-15 his first 3 seasons here and still had an overall record of 34-22.

I think Garrett deserves credit. He was the one that wanted Kiffin/Marinelli. He wanted Callahan, but didn't want him calling plays anymore. He wanted Linehan and the ST coach. He wanted Dan Bailey in the draft (a key player overlooked because of how awful or FG kicking was for over 10-years prior). He handles the press as well as you can here (the entire Claiborne thing was nipped in the bud in 2 days).

But, he could not call plays well to save his life. He could not commit to the running game if you pointed a gun to his head and the team still gets a lot of nagging injuries.

I just don't think this team is nearly as good if Garrett is the HC calling plays (which he begrudgingly gave those duties away after Jerry forced his hand). Still doesn't mean he gets no credit, but the coordinators and the O-Line coach have been working well for us so far.





YR

 

[WV Cowboy]

lol, are you for real WV, or is this comedy? I'm serious. What about BUILDING a program do you not understand? The last 7 games Troy Aikman played in 1990 did not mildly resemble 1989 or the first 7 games of 1990. It was like a switch was thrown. That was in the midst of THE SAME SEASON. You guys kill me.

Garrett has never had any commitment to a run game, .. and now you want me to think this has been building all along.

You kill me.

(I also think it should be against forum rules to ever compare Aikman, Jimmy Johnson, Tom Landry, Roger Staubach to anything going on in Dallas these days, ... LOL, but just kidding)

 

[rcaldw]

Parcells produced 3 seasons of 9 wins or more with Quincy Carter, Vinny Testaverde, Drew Bledsoe and then Romo for about 10 games.

Wade went 33-15 his first 3 seasons here and still had an overall record of 34-22.

I think Garrett deserves credit. He was the one that wanted Kiffin/Marinelli. He wanted Callahan, but didn't want him calling plays anymore. He wanted Linehan and the ST coach. He wanted Dan Bailey in the draft (a key player overlooked because of how awful or FG kicking was for over 10-years prior). He handles the press as well as you can here (the entire Claiborne thing was nipped in the bud in 2 days).

But, he could not call plays well to save his life. He could not commit to the running game if you pointed a gun to his head and the team still gets a lot of nagging injuries.

I just don't think this team is nearly as good if Garrett is the HC calling plays (which he begrudgingly gave those duties away after Jerry forced his hand). Still doesn't mean he gets no credit, but the coordinators and the O-Line coach have been working well for us so far.





YR

I agree with you on giving the coordinators credit. With you 100%. Don't agree with you on play calling. There was a reason he would abandon the run. The offensive line. This team, until this season, could not get the 1 and 2 yard runs they are getting right now (I'm talking about since Garrett took over as head coach). The quality of the OL is incomparable to those first years. But that debate is moot. I'm just happy that I think we are headed in a very good direction.

 

[rcaldw]

Garrett has never had any commitment to a run game, .. and now you want me to think this has been building all along.

You kill me.

(I also think it should be against forum rules to ever compare Aikman, Jimmy Johnson, Tom Landry, Roger Staubach to anything going on in Dallas these days, ... LOL, but just kidding)

I was saying back when everyone was up in arms about Garrett's play calling (the run game), IT IS ABOUT THE OFFENSIVE LINE. He CAN'T do what we want him to do with play calling because he doesn't HAVE THE LINE to do it. No one (relatively speaking) would listen. It is just too easy to "blame Garrett." So whether you agree with me or not, I haven't changed my tune on that. I thought that when they got the line fixed you would see a commitment to the run game, whether he was calling plays or someone else. We got the line fixed and that is what we are seeing.

 

[rcaldw]

Parcells produced 3 seasons of 9 wins or more with Quincy Carter, Vinny Testaverde, Drew Bledsoe and then Romo for about 10 games.

Wade went 33-15 his first 3 seasons here and still had an overall record of 34-22.

I think Garrett deserves credit. He was the one that wanted Kiffin/Marinelli. He wanted Callahan, but didn't want him calling plays anymore. He wanted Linehan and the ST coach. He wanted Dan Bailey in the draft (a key player overlooked because of how awful or FG kicking was for over 10-years prior). He handles the press as well as you can here (the entire Claiborne thing was nipped in the bud in 2 days).

But, he could not call plays well to save his life. He could not commit to the running game if you pointed a gun to his head and the team still gets a lot of nagging injuries.

I just don't think this team is nearly as good if Garrett is the HC calling plays (which he begrudgingly gave those duties away after Jerry forced his hand). Still doesn't mean he gets no credit, but the coordinators and the O-Line coach have been working well for us so far.





YR

Also, 9 or more wins is just 1 win more than 8 or more wins Parcells was 34-30. Garrett is now 24-22. Wade is the one who benefited the most from what Parcells had put in place.

 

[Doomsday101]

I personally think it is ridiculous to bring Jimmy Johnson's name into a discussion about Jason Garrett. But since you have.

There was no doubt what Jimmy did for this team, no doubt what he brought to the table, no doubt whose team that was. The team took on his personality.

So again, what does Garrett bring? What is he directly responsible for during the week or on game day?

They have taken everything out of his hands that he could mess up. So now he stands, smiles, spits a little, and claps a lot.

We could do better.

As HC yes he is responsible and heavily involved with game planning and overseeing throughout the week. This BS if you don't call the plays you’re not involved get a clue there are many HC who do not call plays they are very much involved in all aspects of the team.

 

[adbutcher]

Garrett is terrible, he is near useless but lucky the cowboys have two great coaches that have a lot of power within the team in Lineham and Marinelli

LMAO!

 

[WV Cowboy]

I was saying back when everyone was up in arms about Garrett's play calling (the run game), IT IS ABOUT THE OFFENSIVE LINE. He CAN'T do what we want him to do with play calling because he doesn't HAVE THE LINE to do it. No one (relatively speaking) would listen. It is just too easy to "blame Garrett." So whether you agree with me or not, I haven't changed my tune on that. I thought that when they got the line fixed you would see a commitment to the run game, whether he was calling plays or someone else. We got the line fixed and that is what we are seeing.

So I am to believe that our rookie Martin is the drastic difference from last year, .. and not Linehan?

 

[rcaldw]

So I am to believe that our rookie Martin is the drastic difference from last year, .. and not Linehan?

Let me fix it for you. The addition of Martin, the further development of Frederick and Smith, and the offensive line coming together in an overall sense... yes. In addition, my yes DOES NOT mean that Linehan is not significant. I think he is doing a GREAT job.

I just get amused by the perspectives here. Does anyone here know what the #1 criticism of Linehan was at Detroit? He was PASS HAPPY. lol. And now, all of the sudden, he is Mr. Run Game in Dallas? Overruling a pass happy Jason Garrett? Just silly.

 

[Doomsday101]

So I am to believe that our rookie Martin is the drastic difference from last year, .. and not Linehan?

I think both are playing a big part. Martin may be a rookie he is not playing like a rookie. Linehan a guy Jason knows very well and worked with before coming to Dallas has been doing a very good job along with Callahan and along with Derek Dooley, Gary Brown, Michael Pope and Frank Pollack

 

[adbutcher]

Garrett is in the same boat as Romo. Until he wins a Super Bowl there will always be those who hate him.

There will be idiots that will still hate both even if they win a superbowl. The mediots smear campaign has worked. I don't want or care for any of their accolades because like their criticism it comes from a place of ignorance.---The Bandwagon is full...

 

[khiladi]

You know it takes a whole new re-vamped OL to run play-action... wait a minute, no it doesn't... well, WRs in motion need it.. no, it doesn't... ummmm....

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Garrett is terrible, he is near useless but lucky the cowboys have two great coaches that have a lot of power within the team in Lineham and Marinelli

Who is this Lineham you are referring to?

 

[Doomsday101]

Let me fix it for you. The addition of Martin, the further development of Frederick and Smith, and the offensive line coming together in an overall sense... yes. In addition, my yes DOES NOT mean that Linehan is not significant. I think he is doing a GREAT job.

I just get amused by the perspectives here. Does anyone here know what the #1 criticism of Linehan was at Detroit? He was PASS HAPPY. lol. And now, all of the sudden, he is Mr. Run Game in Dallas? Overruling a pass happy Jason Garrett? Just silly.

No doubt Dallas loses to 9ers Garrett took the hit by many of the same ones who will now claim he has no part in this. LOL

Forget them they are too hung up on their own opinion and pride of being right. Dallas could win a SB and those same will give no credit for Garrett so waste of time dealing with them.

 

[khiladi]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/12/mort-jones-is-pushing-garrett-to-give-up-play-calling-duties/

Changes have indeed come to Valley Ranch.

Apart from the departure of defensive coordinator Rob Ryan and the change in philosophy from 3-4 to 4-3 with the arrival of Monte Kiffin, more seismic shifts are possible.

According to Chris Mortensen of ESPN, owner Jerry Jones is pushing coach Jason Garrett to relinquish play-calling duties. Per Mort, Jones also may be trying to get Garrett to fire his brother, tight ends coach John Garrett.

Mort says John Garrett is calling around the league regarding other available jobs. Which could indeed means that John Garrett fears his brother will fire him.

It's all part of Jason Garrett's plans...

 

[rcaldw]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/12/mort-jones-is-pushing-garrett-to-give-up-play-calling-duties/



It's all part of Jason Garrett's plans...

Been a tough Monday for you

 

[khiladi]

Been a tough Monday for you

I love the latest excuse. OL prevented us from ever running play-action a new staple of our offense...

I especially love 2009, under Garrett when he abandoned the run when the team was actually running well, let alone never used play-action:

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/6802/why-has-garrett-abandoned-the-run

In the first few weeks of the season, the Cowboys were one of the most prolific running teams in the league. But in Sunday's 17-7 loss in Green Bay, the running game was barely a consideration. The talented trio of Marion Barber, Felix Jones and Tashard Choice combined for 11 carries.

I especially love this comment:

Owner Jerry Jones has set up an organizational chart in which Phillips appears to have little or no say about the offense. So Phillips' complaints Monday came off as a cheap second-guess. If the head coach doesn't think his team's running the ball enough during a game, shouldn't he walk over and mention that to the offensive coordinator?