Garrett: we don’t use those numbers during a game

[LACowboysFan1]

It was just another example of conservative Garrett.

Or Moore...

 

[Hennessy_King]

There is a benefit. A couple actually, whether you agree with the call or not. 1. It allowed the defense a buffer to give up a FG and keep it a 1 possession game instead of a NE FG ending the game. 2. It enabled the Cowboys the ability to win with a TD instead of tie or need to convert a 2 point conversion.

All those scenarios are playing not to lose the game. It's cowardly

 

[Jake]

Or Moore...

Moore has been the OC for one season, and he's working under Garrett. JG's been doing this stuff for years.

 

[Blue64]

Are we really still surprised at this clown's comments? He comes out and says stupid stuff like this after losses everyday.

 

[Aviano90]

All those scenarios are playing not to lose the game. It's cowardly

Oh, good God man. Alright, it's not worth discussing.

 

[Aviano90]

No, I said, "I'm more comfortable believing." Said nothing about odds. Don't care for the odds.

You can never change a hindsighter's mind.

 

[OmerV]

They start a drive at their own 10 not their own 38. And gives us better starting field position on the next have to score a td drive. Not the 8 yard line. There was no benefit of kicking the fg there except to cover the spread.

After the kickoff the Pats started on their own 25, not 38. Even so, yes, there was some field position to be gained, but they still would have needed a TD, and the TD alone wouldn't have been enough for the win. It would have taken both a TD and a 2 point conversion, which, the Cowboys likely would not have gone for anyway. And really, it's not the no brainer that every other coach would have gone for 2 rather than the tie that you make it out to be. I think far and away most coaches would have opted for the tie and OT rather than to go for 2 on a day very few conversions had been successful for either team.

 

[Blue64]

Agreed, his comments are more comical after each loss...

we can blame Garrett for all the ills of this team but it’s time to realize that Jerrah doesn’t care as long as his team is #1 on Forbes

 

[Dale]

It RAINED in Dallas on Friday. Yet the cowboys practiced indoors. Rather than outside in the rain. Despite knowing it would RAIN during the game.

It's truly baffling. We did literally nothing to prepare for those conditions. Just insane.

 

[Hennessy_King]

After the kickoff the Pats started on their own 25, not 38. Even so, yes, there was some field position to be gained, but they still would have needed a TD, and the TD alone wouldn't have been enough for the win. It would have taken both a TD and a 2 point conversion, which, the Cowboys likely would not have gone for anyway. And really, it's not the no brainer that every other coach would have gone for 2 rather than the tie that you make it out to be. I think far and away most coaches would have opted for the tie and OT rather than to go for 2 on a day very few conversions had been successful for either team.

Conservative bum coaches would have gone for the tie. If you go by the win % numbers you go for 2. And it's not even close. Yes I corrected my post it was the 25. So we start at the 23 instead of the 8. In a game where yards are hard to come by it's a big deal.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Moore has been the OC for one season, and he's working under Garrett. JG's been doing this stuff for years.

But who actually called for the field goal?

Don't care if Moore worked under Garrett, doesn't mean he always does the same thing Garrett would have done, if he was calling the plays (if Moore did actually call for the field goal).

Just want to know...

 

[ShortRound]

Just dumbfounded at Garrett.

 

[Hennessy_King]

Oh, good God man. Alright, it's not worth discussing.

Bruh get outside. EVERYONE is bashing garrett on that decision. Yes EVERYONE

 

[JD_KaPow]

On 105.3 the fan. Jason Garret was asked about the odds of winning a game, based on analytics, between kicking the last FG or going for it on 4th.

Garret said “we don’t use those numbers during the game”.


I am not the type of person that believes analytics are everything and they are the end all be all. I don’t think you always go with the analytics numbers, because opponent and flow of the game are just as important.

That being said, they don’t use them at all during the game? They don’t at least factor those things in when making the decisions?


That is asinine.

It's obvious they don't use analytics in that way.
But what's worse is that Garrett is implying that he makes decisions in real time, based on actual in-game conditions. But he doesn't.

Garrett NEVER goes for it on 4th down and >2 yards to go unless they're down by multiple scores. Literally NEVER, in ten years.*

Those decisions weren't made Sunday afternoon. They were made more than 10 years ago. He never gave it a second thought on Sunday. 4th and 1 in Cowboy territory? Punt. 4th and 6 at the Patriots' 28? Try a FG; doesn't matter if it's into the wind. 4th and 5 in the red zone? Kick the FG. Every one of these decisions was utterly predictable with 100% confidence.

*Okay, there was one exception: the 4th-and-6 in the Lions playoff game. That's the only time he's ever gone for it in one of those situations...and they won the game because of it.

 

[Aviano90]

Bruh get outside. EVERYONE is bashing garrett on that decision. Yes EVERYONE

I don't care that he is getting bashed. I hate the dude. I'm just not a hard headed individual who believes there is only one way to skin a cat all the time.

I've posted an article from when EVERYONE was bashing Belichick for going for it. Yes, EVERYONE!

 

[cowboy_ron]

On 105.3 the fan. Jason Garret was asked about the odds of winning a game, based on analytics, between kicking the last FG or going for it on 4th.

Garret said “we don’t use those numbers during the game”.


I am not the type of person that believes analytics are everything and they are the end all be all. I don’t think you always go with the analytics numbers, because opponent and flow of the game are just as important.

That being said, they don’t use them at all during the game? They don’t at least factor those things in when making the decisions?


That is asinine.

We can tell Jason..........even Romo says you're not an x and O's type of coach...,..............I think I hear Mara calling....hurry

 

[Hennessy_King]

I don't care that he is getting bashed. I hate the dude. I'm just not a hard headed individual who believes there is only one way to skin a cat all the time.

I've posted an article from when EVERYONE was bashing Belichick for going for it. Yes, EVERYONE!

Yes but his string of great calls and team success allows him to make a mistake. Garrett not so much. Hence why your post keeps getting ignored lol

 

[Aviano90]

Yes but his string of great calls and team success allows him to make a mistake. Garrett not so much. Hence why your post keeps getting ignored lol

But Bill's "mistake" was going for it. Garrett's mistake was "not going for it". The only "mistake" is hindsight showed both calls were unsuccessful and both coaches took heat for it as a result.

It just goes to illustrate there is no clear cut decision to be made and regardless of which one is made, if it is unsuccessful, there will be whining involved. You can take that to the bank.

 

[Hennessy_King]

But Bill's "mistake" was going for it. Garrett's mistake was "not going for it". The only "mistake" is hindsight showed both calls were unsuccessful and both coaches took heat for it as a result.

It just goes to illustrate there is no clear cut decision to be made and regardless of which one is made, if it is unsuccessful, there will be whining involved. You can take that to the bank.

Bill went for it 3 times my g. 3 times. different game and situation.

 

[TheBigEasy]

It RAINED in Dallas on Friday. Yet the cowboys practiced indoors. Rather than outside in the rain. Despite knowing it would RAIN during the game.

I was so mad @ Gronk for making fun of the Cowboys at halftime about how they chose to practice inside their 'cozy & warm bubble' while the Patriots practiced all week in the elements and this is why the Pats kicked their butts in the 1st half. Looking back, I should have given him a 'TV High 5' instead of the 'TV Bird' that I threw his way. Dude was spot on. This team is a reflection of their head coach. If the coach is passive and unemotional, his team will be as well. Not to mention the Augusta National Club House atmosphere Red has built around there. I'm surprised that each player doesn't have their own 'caddy' following them around to wait on them hand & foot. Hope the Giants enjoy their next head coach as much as we have.