Garrett: we don’t use those numbers during a game

[Haimerej]

Tell yourself that to feel better. But just like Troy Aikman, I disagreed with the call at that time.

As well as not running the ball on 3rd and 1 when they got yet another phantom tripping call. Hated that one too. At that time.

Your faith in the offense is obviously greater than mine.

 

[OmerV]

But a better gamble was not going for it on 4th down and thinking after you couldn't get into the red zone until 7 minutes left in the game you were going to do it back to back times and possibly finally score a TD?

The Cowboys once again botched that situation. Frankly, the coaches botched it on 3rd down. They should have known then that they had two downs to get 7 yards, which means they could have run it on 3rd down and maybe given themselves a more manageable 4th and say 2?

Odds weren't great either way, but I liked the idea of getting one more possession with a chance to win rather than failing on 4-7 then only being able to hope for a tie.

 

[HungryLion]

By that logic every call made in a loss was the wrong call. That big play to Cobb? Bad call.

That’s just BS on your part. We all know different situations require different decisions. A big play by Cobb is not the same at all as the decision to go for it or not go forth it. Your logic is flawed.

And again, I’m not arguing about just one play. I’m
Arguing about them not using analytics to make the decision.

Get that through your head already.

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

In no way is kicking the FG there "aggressive".

Which one sounds aggressive? Playing for the win or playing for the tie.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

It’s an interesting approach, but ultimately it’s the coach’s decision. So even if Garrett had used his Princeton brain to calculate the win probability on the fly, people would have still cried because he didn’t make the right decision in hindsight.

 

[Aviano90]

1 TD 1 2pt conversion for the win. No way am I kicking a FG if I score a td.

Yeah, you could do that. Hopefully we would have converted or it would have undoubtedly been the wrong call though.

 

[AlienBoy]

According to the Fan, wasn't the difference between going for it on 4th or kicking the field goal only a difference of 1%? Even they admitted it didn't make a difference based on the analytics.

 

[HungryLion]

Which one sounds aggressive? Playing for the win or playing for the tie.

According to the analytics you have a better chance o win by going for it.

Going for it is playing to win.

 

[lopey]

To beat the Champs at home you got to be aggressive. Go for it on 4-7. If you don’t get it NE IS at there 10 yard line. To me it’s just Garrett is so conservative

 

[Hennessy_King]

Yeah, you could do that. Hopefully we would have converted or it would have undoubtedly been the wrong call though.

Nope that's the right call. You go for 2 period. Bad conditions outside on the road no way you even try the xp. It's not automatic. No overtime you have to play to beat NE not tie the game.

 

[HungryLion]

According to the Fan, wasn't the difference between going for it on 4th or kicking the field goal only a difference of 1%? Even they admitted it didn't make a difference based on the analytics.

It’s not about one play. How many times does that need repeating.

Garrett admitted that he doesn’t use analytics during the games. That is the issue.

 

[Aviano90]

Whatever. They made the right call for that point in the game. They go for it and fail you guys would whine about not getting points.

Even the great coaches get criticized when they go for it and fail.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...why-we-didnt-kick-field-goals-in-4th-quarter/

 

[Hennessy_King]

Odds weren't great either way, but I liked the idea of getting one more possession with a chance to win rather than failing on 4-7 then only being able to hope for a tie.

2 pt conversion for the win. You old ppl are so conservative you probably don't even know what a 2pt try looks like lol.

 

[Sydla]

Which one sounds aggressive? Playing for the win or playing for the tie.

Going for a TD when you finally get in the red zone with 6 minutes left in the game is the aggressive move. Kicking a FG and hoping you can then make a 2nd consecutive trip down the field for a TD when you hadn't done it all game is just crossing your fingers and hoping against hope.

 

[OmerV]

2 pt conversion for the win. You old ppl are so conservative you probably don't even know what a 2pt try looks like lol.

By kicking the FG they wouldn't have needed the 2 point conversion on the last possession to win. Besides, do you really think they would have gone for 2?

 

[Aviano90]

Nope that's the right call. You go for 2 period. Bad conditions outside on the road no way you even try the xp. It's not automatic. No overtime you have to play to beat NE not tie the game.

I agree it is the right call. You agree it is the right call.

When has Garrett made a tough call that failed and he wasn't hammered for it? Every single one he gets blasted for it the call doesn't work out. Maybe you wouldn't in this case, but a lot of other people would. That's how it goes...some people agree with the call and others don't.

 

[Haimerej]

That’s just BS on your part. We all know different situations require different decisions. A big play by Cobb is not the same at all as the decision to go for it or not go forth it. Your logic is flawed.

It was your logic. You said it was the wrong call because they lost. If that's the barometer then what I said applies.

And again, I’m not arguing about just one play. I’m
Arguing about them not using analytics to make the decision.

Get that through your head already.

Actually, you are arguing about that call. Don't you see the arguments you keep posting regarding the call?

On the topic of analytics, I don't care if they're used or not. Probabilities are not certainties.

 

[LocimusPrime]

 

[Hennessy_King]

Do you really think they would have gone for 2?

It's 100% the right call. So garrett would have tried the XP. And maher probably misses because it's maher and it's windy and outside. And ppl here would be defending it. Why drag out the inevitable go for the win. If you don't make it you weren't good enough.

 

[Sydla]

I agree it is the right call. You agree it is the right call.

When has Garrett made a tough call that failed and he wasn't hammered for it? Every single one he gets blasted for it the call doesn't work out. Maybe you wouldn't in this case, but a lot of other people would. That's how it goes...some people agree with the call and others don't.

His job is to make the calls that result in wins. How he played it yesterday resulted in a loss.

He far too often makes the wrong move at ends of games.