Giants Fan Here

[BrAinPaiNt]

Not me. There goes your "Everyone" theory............

You just have to ruin someone's theory, show some empathy.

Geez, have you not every donned a tin foil hat and been smacked down before?

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[JohnnyHopkins]

I know I'm a little late to the party, but I figured this was a troll trying to rile things up so I ignored it until it hit 100 posts.

From a "results on the field" perspective, Eli reminds me of Jim McMahon. Some people that never watched McMahon might look up his stats and think of that as a knock on Eli. That would not be the case for those that remember a Healthy McMahon.

Those Bears teams had a strong defense, good running game and McMahon would always make plays that would be key in victory. Like Eli, he was never a top "Stat Sheet" QB ala Montana, Marino, Elway, etc. but, but he was gritty, resilient and had the ear of his team.

For those that will throw out the style of play and demeanor differences between the two, yes, I am aware that McMahon was more of a roll-out QB and was a larger than life-personality. I am talking purely about the results on the field and the perception vs. some of the other High Stat guys.

It's a shame that McMahon's many injuries just always seemed to mount on him.

 

[superpunk]

What does any of this have to do with Zelda?

 

[Extreme]

Eli is already a legend, at least in my part of the woods.

I'm already a legend in my own mind. It doesn't make me one though

Romo can be a legend of his own one day... but first he needs to win a playoff game or two!!

Whoa there young fella, baby steps

Seriously though, if you think winning a SB makes Eli better than Romo, you need to pull apart them cheeks, seperate your head from your sphincter and seriously consider psychiatric help. That would be like saying Plaxico is better than Randy Moss or TO because he has a ring. Meds these days can do wonders.

Trent Dilfer - A Super Bowl champion
Dan Marino - Not a Super Bowl champion

Call me crazy, but I'd still stick Dan on my team, over the legend that is Dilfer and all his Dilfer goodness. Your man love for Eli has seriously obliterated your sense of reality.

 

[cowboys2233]

Call me crazy, but I'd still stick Dan on my team, over the legend that is Dilfer and all his Dilfer goodness. Your man love for Eli has seriously obliterated your sense of reality.

Hard not to for a Giants fan -- they are constantly bombarded with Eli love from the NY media. It is amazing how much love they have this QB and his team.

He's good, yes. As are the Giants. But to suggest they have a clear path to the SB is idiotic at best. I just really truly hope the Cowboys get another shot at them in the playoffs, that is my one Christmas wish. If they beat us, fine. But I'll take my chances if we are relatively healthy.

 

[zrinkill]

Its sad that the Giants can be almost undefeated and in the middle of a record year for the team ....... and their "fans" are still obsessed enough with our team to post on a Cowboys forum.

 

[Extreme]

Hard not to for a Giants fan -- they are constantly bombarded with Eli love from the NY media. It is amazing how much love they have this QB and his team.

He's good, yes. As are the Giants. But to suggest they have a clear path to the SB is idiotic at best. I just really truly hope the Cowboys get another shot at them in the playoffs, that is my one Christmas wish. If they beat us, fine. But I'll take my chances if we are relatively healthy.

I'd love to see any team off the Giants. I've hated them since I started watching football as a child, always have.

 

[ROMOSAPIEN9]

The day after the superbowl I went on a Giants message board and predicted a Giants dynasty.

I can't find it as I'm not on my home PC right now.

Anyway, seems to be an easy prediction so far.

 

[Boysboy]

Hard not to for a Giants fan -- they are constantly bombarded with Eli love from the NY media. It is amazing how much love they have this QB and his team.

He's good, yes. As are the Giants. But to suggest they have a clear path to the SB is idiotic at best. I just really truly hope the Cowboys get another shot at them in the playoffs, that is my one Christmas wish. If they beat us, fine. But I'll take my chances if we are relatively healthy.

At least they're going to have a bye.

Really-do NOT underestimate that bye week. After a long a grueling season, a week's rest going into the playoffs to heal some banged up guys is NEEDED. OTOH-playing in the WC game and grinding it out that same week I'm not sure if the players and coaches are that big a fan of.

OK-the last 3 Super Bowl winners started out in the WC game, but that still doesn't take away the fact that the bye week is preferred. Remember last year, the Giants came in with a depleted secondary. Why we couldn't take advantage, I don't know. But if the shoe was on the other foot where we had to start off in the WC game, and then hobbled into the next round, I'm not sure if I would feel very comfortable...

 

[cowboys2233]

I'd love to see any team off the Giants. I've hated them since I started watching football as a child, always have.

Yeah, there was a natural hate for the Commanders back in the day, mainly because they beat us in some very important games. Those were some rock solid teams with the likes of Dan Butz, Dexter Manly, etc.

But with the whole "ballin'" routine, Tiki's general douchebaggedness, and their general sense of self-importance has really made me grow to hate this team with every fiber of my being over the last few years. I can't tell you how much I would enjoy seeing them booted out of the playoffs.

 

[Extreme]

Yeah, there was a natural hate for the Commanders back in the day, mainly because they beat us in some very important games. Those were some rock solid teams with the likes of Dan Butz, Dexter Manly, etc.

But with the whole "ballin'" routine, Tiki's general douchebaggedness, and their general sense of self-importance has really made me grow to hate this team with every fiber of my being over the last few years. I can't tell you how much I would enjoy seeing them booted out of the playoffs.

At least Tiki is multi-tasking now. He was a ****** as a player, now he's a ****** as a reporter/broadcaster. He's multitalented

 

[cowboys2233]

But if the shoe was on the other foot where we had to start off in the WC game, and then hobbled into the next round, I'm not sure if I would feel very comfortable...

Again, just having some key figures back for a playoff game against them, specifically Romo and Newman, and I like our chances.

Don't know about the whole coming into the game hobbled, it's one extra game and as you said, the last three SB teams came out of the WC round. The reason why it looks like an advantage is because the divisional round home team has historically been better, leading to more wins.

Again, I'm not convinced this Giants team IS better than a motivated and healthy Cowboys team. Hopefully, we'll have the opportunity to find out.

 

[Boysboy]

Yeah, there was a natural hate for the Commanders back in the day, mainly because they beat us in some very important games. Those were some rock solid teams with the likes of Dan Butz, Dexter Manly, etc.

But with the whole "ballin'" routine, Tiki's general douchebaggedness, and their general sense of self-importance has really made me grow to hate this team with every fiber of my being over the last few years. I can't tell you how much I would enjoy seeing them booted out of the playoffs.

I became a football fan in '85 growing up in DFW. The Eagles became by far my most hated team in this division when Buddy Ryan came in, brought his dirty style of play, and then, of course, Bounty Bowl shortly thereafter.

If anything, the seeds were planted back then in terms of near-extreme hate for that team.

As for the Skins, hated them, but not nearly as much as the Eagles. If anything, Joe Gibbs has always been someone to admire...a true class act ala Tom Landry.

So with most of my hate directed toward the Eagles, Niners, Packers, and Skins, I just didn't have much left for any other teams like the Giants.

 

[ROMOSAPIEN9]

I became a football fan in '85 growing up in DFW. The Eagles became by far my most hated team in this division when Buddy Ryan came in, brought his dirty style of play, and then, of course, Bounty Bowl shortly thereafter.

If anything, the seeds were planted back then in terms of near-extreme hate for that team.

As for the Skins, hated them, but not nearly as much as the Eagles. If anything, Joe Gibbs has always been someone to admire...a true class act ala Tom Landry.

So with most of my hate directed toward the Eagles, Niners, Packers, and Skins, I just didn't have much left for any other teams like the Giants.

A WhipperSnapper

 

[cowboys2233]

If anything, the seeds were planted back then in terms of near-extreme hate for that team.

Agreed, the Eagles were at the top of the list a few years back. It's a revolving thing with me that doesn't extend beyond the NFC East. :laugh2:

But at least the Eagles were never shoved down our throats the way the Giants are, due to the high concentration of media in the NY area. You'd think this team was the greatest thing since fire.

Am I crazy, or is this Giants team just not all that? Yes, they're decent, but they're a heck of a lot more beatable than many other teams I've seen come down the line.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Let me just say.
Major props for getting it done last year.
Major props for the season they are having this year.

But lets face it. The Dallas Cowboys winning it all WILL ALWAYS dwarf the Giants winning it all(only here in NY is it a big deal when they win).

You dont have to like that fact. But it is a fact!

Now back to our regularly scheduled....

And if the Giants get eliminated in the divisional round this year, that doesn't take away anything from what the Giants accomplished last season. That's just not how it works.

It doesnt take away from last year. Whats won is won.
BUT it will just show that Dallas slipped on a banana peel last year and the Giants benefited.

Giants have never beaten Tony Romo without help from the officials and bad hands by our receivers.

Just sayin'.

Yeah. But a win is a win. They got it.
I didnt like the IG calls in that last playoff game = nonsense.

Trent Dilfer didn't defeat the 18-0, "greatest team of all-time" in the Super Bowl.

What Manning did was much more Namath like than Dilfer-like.

You are seriously putting that win on Eli? Not the defense?

See the post below.

the play before that was a horrendous throw that should have been an easy interception ending the game. instead it went right through samuels hand.

Had He caught that eli would have recieved all the blame.

it was meant to be.

Hopefully it turns out that way for us soon.

Eli was that close to be the GOAT of that SB. Sealing the win for the Pats.

 

[Seven]

You just have to ruin someone's theory, show some empathy.

Geez, have you not every donned a tin foil hat and been smacked down before?
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........and there inlies my issue. As I've been told by "everyone".

 

[AsthmaField]

The Giants truly play as a team and not merely a collection of talented individuals.

Inserted particularly to bother Cowboy fans. Nicely done.

However, the one thing you didn't what to happen is actually going down: The Cowboys are starting to play as a unit instead of a collection of stars.

And there is another tie in to your post:

The Giants do a very good job of playing as a unit and playing smart football.

However, do you actually think the Giants are better without those stars? I mean, if they were playing together as a unit like they are now... but still had, say, Osi, Strahan, Shockey, and Tiki?

You know the team would be better. Tuck as a reserve DE would be awesome. A fresh Tuck rotating with a fresh Osi or Strahan would make your DL even better than it is now.

How about bringing in a fresh Tiki after Jacobs had worn defenses down? Sheesh.

Those stars assimilated with the team you have now would make the Giants just that much more difficult to beat.

Now for the tie in: The Cowboys do have stars littered all over their roster. Last year, Dallas whipped NY in two out of three tries, even though they had a first year coach and weren't particularly gelled as a single offensive and defensive unit. That was because the Giants weren't particularly playing as a team at that point either. Then NY gelled, just like Dallas is doing now. In the playoffs, when playing as a team is at its most important... the Giants understandably (and deservedly) won the game.

Now however, I think Dallas has figured out how to play as a team. They now understand the importance of intensity each week, and they now are playing with cohesion. Plus, just like Eli figured out towards the end of last year, what being a team leader is all about... it looks like Romo has figured it out now, too.

Maybe I'm wrong... but I don't think I am. I've seen it too many times before. A good team finally figures it out and becomes a great team, gets on a roll, and goes deep into the playoffs.

Now, here's my point: If NY is playing a team that is performing as a unit just like NY is, then THAT is when the loss of talent will show. Then, the talent put together on each team will become evident.

Last year you guys knocked us out of the playoffs because Dallas played as a collection of stars instead of as a team. Now, with Dallas starting to play as a unit... just like NY does... you might not should be so cavalier about the loss of guys like Strahan, Osi, Tiki, Shockey, etc. Those guys could match up with the Dallas stars when the intensity and teamwork is equal... now though, with Dallas' stars finally starting to play as a team, NY very well might have difficulties in matching up.

Just keep your fingers crossed that I'm wrong... Pray that Dallas and Romo hasn't actually figured out how to play as a cohesive unit. Because if that group of talent HAS actually figured it out... the rest of the NFL is in a whole lot of trouble.

 

[DallasEast]

At least Tiki is multi-tasking now. He was a ****** as a player, now he's a ****** as a reporter/broadcaster. He's multitalented
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Now, just how in the hell did I get omitted from your sig???????????????????????

 

[Boysboy]

Agreed, the Eagles were at the top of the list a few years back. It's a revolving thing with me that doesn't extend beyond the NFC East. :laugh2:

But at least the Eagles were never shoved down our throats the way the Giants are, due to the high concentration of media in the NY area. You'd think this team was the greatest thing since fire.

Am I crazy, or is this Giants team just not all that? Yes, they're decent, but they're a heck of a lot more beatable than many other teams I've seen come down the line.

Really? Every offseason and TC, all I hear from both the Philly AND the national sports media is how the Eagles have 22 Pro Bowlers, they had the best draft, all their young projects are doing gangbusters, etc, etc.

Then all of a sudden when they stink it up and dig themselves a big hole and drive themselves out of the playoff picture, Reid and McNabb will mysteriously pull out the performances of their lives and not only give false optimism to the Philly fans, but make everyone think they're a Super Bowl contender again and will easily run the tables.

It's the same movie we see every year, really.