Giants fire GM Jerry Reese and HC Bob McAdoo

BigD16

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You do?

Tell me more about things you think I said.
"You make the move for the elite franchise QB prospect when one's available. Not when you find it convenient on your schedule.

There is no Wentz in this draft."

Implying you don't think there good quarterbacks coming out.
 

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I could have sworn Eli had to learn a new offense once Gilbride was asked to leave and Macadoo came in in 2014
I don't know if there was a connection between those schemes but the offense changed significantly with McAdoo.

With McAdoo they focused on getting the ball oit very quickly. I think Eli's average time before release was one of the lowest in the NFL. When they had a half-arse decent OL, Eli was difficult to sack because of the focus on getting rid of the ball.

At some point the OL got so bad that it didn't matter if the Center turned around backwards and snapped the ball to the receivers, he would still get sacked.
 

theebs

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LOL says the guy contradicting himself on a weekly basis

aww. Im sorry you couldn't understand it.

Mcadoo was hired because coughlin wanted mannings completion percentage higher to sustain drives and take pressure off the defense. That is why he was in on hiring mcadoo to run the offense.

when coughlin was fired Mara kept mcadoo and made him the head coach because he didnt want manning to have learn another offense. Mara hires or plays a big role in hiring the coaches even though he has a GM.

so yea I didnt contradict myself at all, they didnt want a new offense.
 

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I'm taking the Giants on Sunday.
You’re an idiot...lol, but a funny one. :)

Best Giants can hope for is to make our offense struggle. Eli still has to run out there with a terrible OL that can’t protect him and not a single bonafide NFL receiver...no weapons and no OL. No chance.
 

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You’re an idiot...lol, but a funny one. :)

Best Giants can hope for is to make our offense struggle. Eli still has to run out there with a terrible OL that can’t protect him and not a single bonafide NFL receiver...no weapons and no OL. No chance.

He has Sterling Sheppard, Evan Engram and Roger lewis. All 3 can make plays imo.

Darkwa looks good running the ball but its not sustainable.
 

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Settle down internet warrior, you posted that a few days ago I can't recall which thread since you post on everything.
It was something like
"Cowboys wasted an apportunity moving up for a blue chip quarterback (referring to your butt-buddy) there are no good quarterbacks coming out."

You didn't read that. You just thought you read that. You can't recall where it is because it only resides in your mind.

Hey, I can do this too.

You posted this a few days ago. I can't recall which thread since you're not important. It was something like
"Risen Star is the greatest poster of all time."

That one made me blush.
 

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You’re an idiot...lol, but a funny one. :)

Best Giants can hope for is to make our offense struggle. Eli still has to run out there with a terrible OL that can’t protect him and not a single bonafide NFL receiver...no weapons and no OL. No chance.

You're right. Eli couldn't hope to keep up with our prolific passing attack.
 

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"You make the move for the elite franchise QB prospect when one's available. Not when you find it convenient on your schedule.

There is no Wentz in this draft."

Implying you don't think there good quarterbacks coming out.

That implies that only if you want it to.

What is really implies is what it actually says. There is no Wentz in this draft. Carsus isn't the benchmark for good. He's great. You can be a lesser player and be a very good QB.

There are several really good prospects this year. I'd take any one of them over what we have now. In fact, I'm begging for one.
 

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You’re an idiot...lol, but a funny one. :)

Best Giants can hope for is to make our offense struggle. Eli still has to run out there with a terrible OL that can’t protect him and not a single bonafide NFL receiver...no weapons and no OL. No chance.

Btw, don't think I let it slide that you called me an idiot.

If we ever run into each other get ready to throw hands.
 

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If we ever run into each other get ready to throw hands.

nothing to fear Chuck:

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I generally reject that 'Jerry's ego' narrative out of hand. He's too good a businessman to let his $5BB product be run by a guy he doesn't believe in just because he wants to prove something. Plus, it doesn't make sense. If he didn't think he had the right guy, it's in his ego's interest to bring in the right guy so that he can prove he's capable of building a perennial powerhouse. That's much more of an ego boost than being right on Jason Garrett would ever be. Not to mention that multiple other teams were also impressed by and willing to make Garrett their HC, anyway.

The idea that we reached precipitously with Garrett just isn't accurate. Had we not hired him for the HC gig when we did, more than one other team was interested in doing so. Our fans just want to say that he wasn't ready because Jerry made the comment about having invested in his training because Jerry is an emasculating idiot sometimes.

I think it is fair to say that Garrett has been the most underqualified head coach we have had. He never coached a major college football program, he never spent years as a coordinator under an established head coach, thus being part of a "coaching tree", and when he was hired the extent of his coaching experience was being a QB coach for a couple of seasons with the Miami Dolphins.

And yes, regardless of you thinking Jerry is an idiot, it is true that Garrett has had growing pains as he learned to be a first time head coach. He has made game day blunders with clock management and situational football. That is why Jerry said he would be reluctant to fire Garrett because he didn't want him going to another team and using what he learned from his mistakes here somewhere else for their benefit. We needed to be the ones to benefit from all the mistakes Garrett made early on, ergo his famous "head coach in training" statement.
 

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Guys, don't yell at me, but if for whatever reason Garrett is still the HC I would actually endorse McAdoo as the offensive coordinator. Guy is not meant to lead but I'm a fanboy of the west coast offense.

His haircut alone should get him banned off the planet. Now go wash your mouth out w/ soap.:rolleyes:
 
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