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News: Gregory Failed Yet another Drug Test

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by mortboy, Nov 11, 2016.

  1. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    If they keep records on failed drug tests within a calendar year, Gregory would have to be at or near the top.
  2. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    I knew when I saw this picture of Gregory boarding the plane to Tampa last season it wasn't going to work out with him. He looked like a flight risk. If I see someone boarding a plane looking like that, I'm getting the hell off.

  3. gmoney112

    gmoney112 Well-Known Member

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    Well, it is a site about "drug abuse". They fail to point out any of the actual positive benefits of it. By it's own existence, it is meant to be biased towards making points toward the addiction potential of that substance. Which goes to my next point

    The fact that the NIDA has stated that "NIDA does not conduct research on alcohol", in their own words. When we can all agree, alcohol is a *drug*, can potentially be extremely harmful, and has hundreds of thousands of cases every year of addiction. To an exponential degree of documented "marijuana addiction" cases. That doesn't make much sense.

    Additionally, on their very own informative page on marijuana they state "It is important to note that other factors besides biological mechanisms, such as a person’s social environment, are also critical in a person's risk for drug use. An alternative to the gateway-drug hypothesis is that people who are more vulnerable to drug-taking are simply more likely to start with readily available substances like marijuana, tobacco, or alcohol, and their subsequent social interactions with other substance users increases their chances of trying other drugs. Further research is needed to explore this question."

    Further research is needed, but zero efforts have been put forth to examine what, is in all likelihood, the actual cause. When writing up agreements, contracts, and other legally enforceable documents, we call this a CYA paragraph. (Cover your ***).

    Could marijuana truly be a gateway drug? I don't know, probably i guess. Can't say anything for certain. But, it's impossible to tell because in almost all cases, alcohol and nicotine has been readily available and used before using marijuana. And, this may seem like a reach, but if you look at sugar you can see intermittent sugar consumption fires off a dopamine response, the same "reward center" activity


    "That this review demonstrates is that rats with intermittent access to food and a sugar solution can show both a constellation of behaviors and parallel brain changes that are characteristic of rats that voluntarily self-administer addictive drugs. In the aggregrate, this is evidence that sugar can be addictive."

    "Rats maintained on intermittent sugar access and then forced to abstain, subsequently show enhanced intake of 9% alcohol (Avena et al., 2004). This suggests that intermittent access to sugar can be a gateway to alcohol use"

    There are other studies as well.

    In America, (most) humans are subjected to sugar dosing at levels that repeatedly target this reward system since infancy. More recently, obesity has turned into an epidemic. Current estimates put obesity costs at 150-200 billion per year. Everyone knows these foods are bad for them, but they don't/can't stop. Isn't that definition of addiction? If you want to define this substance according to the DEA standards, Sugar should be Schedule I because of it's abuse potential and lack of medically relevant uses.

    These same entities like the NIDA also don't point out its benefits, which can be attributed to medical treatment, anti anxiety/depression that's more effective than the SSRI's that your primary care physician hands out like Skittles. Or the inherent, or lack of, danger of the substance. Overdose potential is basically nonexistent, i'm sure long term use can cause lung damage, but nothing like the already legal product cigarettes.

    Really, this all just goes to say that I actually don't think marijuana is harmless. It, like anything else, should be used carefully in moderation. Also, like anything else, can absolutely be psychologically addictive, especially in cases where there's preexisting psychological issues (the actual cause of all addiction, in my opinion, there's a reason people want to escape from reality). However, given the legality of other things, I don't really see the point in all the hubbub about it's dangers, and if you really want to be technical, which we should be in trying to make definitive statements about something, it's impossible to prove it's a 'gateway' anything. You'd be much more accurate listing sugar or alcohol as the gateway drug.
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  4. FuzzyLumpkins

    FuzzyLumpkins The Boognish

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    I'm showing the NIDA bias which you have dismissed only to double down on posting their stuff.

    I chose the article from 2004 to point out because you chose to post a study from 2006. You could apply your dismissal to your article. I was merely trying to show context. I would be more than happy to post something more recent.
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  5. DandyDon52

    DandyDon52 Well-Known Member

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    LOL so this is now the marijuana thread !!

    Pot like many other things can be physically addictive, with withdrawal symptoms, it depends on how much you smoke and for how long,
    and if it is a everyday thing or not.
    I knew someone who smoked it for many years every day, not a lot but every day, and when he quit he couldnt sleep for months,
    and felt really bad.
    So for heavy regular smokers, quitting could mean not sleeping, or little sleep and not as good sleep, and feeling bad.
    I know pot masks or covers up certain aches and pains, so if you quit your not only not high and that mental aspect, but
    you now feel all the aches and pains

    I think occasional use is ok, but if you get into every day use, then when you have to quit you will go thru a bad period.
  6. JJHLH1

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    I personally don't think the National Institute of Health, which the National Institute of Drug Abuse is part of, has bias. I also don't think their findings would be published in the New England Journal of Medicine if they had bias.

    The rat study was from 2007, but the Journal study was from 2014. I'll leave it at that. It's been a friendly discussion.
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  7. kazzd58

    kazzd58 Well-Known Member

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    ok so you one of those types cats right.... i'll address

    key word your statement says is " Cocaine and heroin also COMES" from plants... marijuana "IS" the plant it don't come from itself it is the self! nd know what i sd and how i said it and i meant it ....smh lmao sarcasm...

    there is nothing done to it right? like cocaine and heroin right .. Do u even understand what you got to do to turn cocaine into heroin??

    u put in the ground put some sun and water on it right?

    then put some heat to it and heals alot of issues us humans go through... come on man i know what I'm talking about I'm not a pup
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  8. therock1982

    therock1982 Active Member

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    nope,we are loosing a player because he cannot take a career that he has a god given talent for seriously.
    the guy has the opportunity of a lifetime to be star for americas team and was given the honor of wearing #94,all he had to do is tow the line-it seems he doesnt want to do that so we are loosing a player because he is to immature to realise how privelidged he is
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  9. BigStar

    BigStar Stop chasing

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  10. Trouty

    Trouty Kellen Moore baby Zone Supporter

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    Won't disagree here, either. There's nuance involved in my page one post, look for it. Also, as a follow up, read my second page post, Rock. Respectfully, brudda.
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  11. dallasdave

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  12. marchetta

    marchetta Well-Known Member

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    It will be just our luck, that after we cut him, the NFL stops testing for marijuana and he becomes a pro bowler for another team. :(
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  13. windjc

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    Alcohol is about 1000x worse than pot. In about every conceivable way. Banning alcohol makes 1000x more sense than banning pot. People who fail to understand this are ignorant and aren't basing their opinions on real life experience.

    Despite the overwhelming physical evidence to support this, there is one simple measurement to compare the two: how many people do you know that beat their wife and kids when they smoke pot? Game. Set. Match. Or: how many people die every year from stoned driving? Or: how many people get liver cancer from pot? Or: How many Pot Anonymous groups are there worldwide? In LA alone there are over 5000 AA groups. In. One. City.

    The two really can't be compared.
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  14. drawandstrike

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  15. BigStar

    BigStar Stop chasing

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    Tell your friend to take otc dramamine and sleeping pills and he would've been fine if it comes up again. Feel bad for him though; should have had some knowledgeable erb friends to help, etc.
  16. fortdick

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    Has nothing to do with weed and everything to do with selfishness. Me first attitude. You see a lot of it now days, especially in some that claim to care.
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  17. Trouty

    Trouty Kellen Moore baby Zone Supporter

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    I don't necessarily disagree, Fort.
  18. SilverStarCowboy

    SilverStarCowboy The Actualist

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    If he doesn't want it bad enough, and say a Mike Tomlin gives him that incentive, then he goes on to have a All-Pro Career......who's fault is that.
  19. DandyDon52

    DandyDon52 Well-Known Member

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    your being logical, and we live in a corrupt world, not utopia.
    It is all about money , not what is right or sensible.

    At one point early 1900s, pot and cocaine had no laws against them, so they were legal.
    Alcohol was the dominant industry, so who do you think got those 2 drugs made illegal??
    They even made the film reefer madness, to scare people away from pot.

    It is similar to when Tucker tried to make cars, the big 3 used their power and bought politicians to get him shut down.
    Big companies like to crush competition early, bill gates used to do this too.

    I am really surprised states are now legalizing pot, but the main reason is for the tax revenue, not because it is the right thing.

    And even in those states you could still be busted for pot, selling and possession, by a federal agent and tried in a federal court.
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  20. BourbonBalz

    BourbonBalz Star4Ever

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    First off, I couldn't care less what u think about me or my occupation. You sound like one of the moron protestors on the west coast. Secondly, I consider him an idiot that engages in criminal and self destructive behavior. Third, I'm very much against abortion since I'm a conservative (though I have no idea what it has to do with the subject matter). Fourth, I do not work for the DEA. Finally, I used the term as a reflection of the person I was posting with. He came across as a surfer boy type, though I could be totally wrong on that. Regardless, I don't recall having to ask your or anyone else's permission to use ANY term I damn well please.
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