News: Gregory Failed Yet another Drug Test

[JJHLH1]

Editorial has such an obvious bias it's basically worthless.

The NIDA also stated alcohol is a gateway drug as well, and probably the first consumed in 99% of cases. Should alcohol be illegal? Nicotine is a drug, what about cigarettes?

If you want to determine precursors, how about adderall in children, it is after all, speed. Or how about caffeine?

At this point, trying to classify marijuana as a "gateway" anything is futile, you have to cherry pick your parameters to come to any sort of conclusion to prove that point. I've never known a single person that didn't smoke, consume alcohol, or take adhd medicine before trying it.

The only harmful thing about buying weed is the fact you have to skirt the law. That's the only negative part of it, used to you could probably get other things from the weed guy. Nowadays, in urban areas, it's mostly hipster potheads. Still that "grey market" atmosphere could be avoided entirely.

The National Institute on Drug Abuse website concludes that the scientific findings are consistent with the idea of marijuana as a "gateway drug".

https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/marijuana-gateway-drug

 

[drawandstrike]

26 pages and counting and the last official word from the NFL was....failed a drug test, you say? Gee that's news to us. We don't know a thing about it.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The National Institute on Drug Abuse website concludes that for some people marijuana is likely a gateway drug.

https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/marijuana-gateway-drug

Citing the NIDA who has blocked real study for decades at this point is great irony.

 

[gmoney112]

National Institute on Drug Abuse website concludes that for some people marijuana is likely a gateway drug.

https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/marijuana-gateway-drug

You aren't trying to actually think about what i'm saying, so i won't respond anymore. Think about the term "gateway", if you can't think about it, then there's no point. Federally linked documentation to an entity that has ruled marijuana federally illegal in the face of actual evidence, isn't really the best source.

"It is important to note that other factors besides biological mechanisms, such as a person’s social environment, are also critical in a person's risk for drug use. An alternative to the gateway-drug hypothesis is that people who are more vulnerable to drug-taking are simply more likely to start with readily available substances like marijuana, tobacco, or alcohol, and their subsequent social interactions with other substance users increases their chances of trying other drugs. Further research is needed to explore this question."

"However, the majority of people who use marijuana do not go on to use other, "harder" substances. "

I will say that in every single case I have ever seen as a male in his 20's, that graduated business honors, went to a 5a public high school and a major D1 campus, there wasn't a single case where a marijuana user didn't smoke cigs or drink alcohol beforehand. Not one. And I knew a lot of potheads.

You know who ended up moving on to harder things? The guys who had alcohol problems, the guys who had psychological problems, the guys who had Doctors prescribing them SSRI's and Xanax/Klonopin when they were 16. Those same prescriptions reacting superbly with their nights out and alcohol consumption when they blacked out and passed out in their own bodily fluids while still being in high school. Thanks, Docs!

As far as the "reward system" of the brain, not only alcohol and specifically, nicotine, target these receptors, but half a population addicted to obesity causing consumables that target these same receptors and are consumed since basically infancy, are just a few of the others that predate marijuana usage.

Trying to call it a "gateway" anything is either ignorance, or someone trying to play on others ignorance to further an agenda.

 

[bounce]

This is horrible if true. Somebody pinch me. I was full-bore in his corner. Hoping we would get him back for our postseason push.

Unbelievable. DE is a number one priority in draft and perhaps in free agency as well (not a tier one, but a tier 2 signing). It can't just be Tank on the outside.

Damnit, Gregory. Damnit, dude. If this is over weed, this is sickening that weed can destroy a player's career in the 21st century. Weed, folks.

You "get off muh lawn" folks need to realize, marijuana will be federally legal soon. We're losing a player to some weed. In two or three, maybe four years (our next general election) this guy wouldn't be drawing these suspensions.

That's fine, but it IS illegal now, and the NFL rules say not to do it. It doesn't matter WHAT the rule is, don't friggin' break it. The NBA has a dress code and guys get fined for it. It's not illegal to wear a t-shirt, but it's a company rule with consequences. So, don't break company rules.

 

[JJHLH1]

Citing the NIDA who has blocked real study for decades at this point is great irony.

Marijuana is a gateway drug for rats according to scientific studies. And the intriguing finding is that steady marijuana exposure causes brain and behavioral problems not only in the animals exposed, but in their future ratlets.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16823391

http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2014/03/17/weed-a-gateway-drug-across-generations/

 

[Trouty]

That's fine, but it IS illegal now, and the NFL rules say not to do it. It doesn't matter WHAT the rule is, don't friggin' break it. The NBA has a dress code and guys get fined for it. It's not illegal to wear a t-shirt, but it's a company rule with consequences. So, don't break company rules.

Agreed. Read my second post in the thread, Bounce, page 2.

 

[gmoney112]

That's fine, but it IS illegal now, and the NFL rules say not to do it. It doesn't matter WHAT the rule is, don't friggin' break it. The NBA has a dress code and guys get fined for it. It's not illegal to wear a t-shirt, but it's a company rule with consequences. So, don't break company rules.

Yeah, basically, even if the rule is pretty stupid, still a rule.

I do wonder if they take more of an NBA stance though, since the NFL is also thinking about cutting commercial time and speeding up challenges in the face of falling viewership. They're locked into that stupid DirecTV contract so they actually have to improve the product on the field.

Letting players who just fail for marijuana, play, getting them on the field, could be one step taken. Doubtful, but it's worth thinking about.

 

[bounce]

Agreed. Read my second post in the thread, Bounce, page 2.

Ha! Sorry - I responded and then saw 26 pages.

 

[dallasdave]

HOw YOU Doing ????

 

[dallasdave]

Agreed. Read my second post in the thread, Bounce, page 2.

2nd verse same as the 1st

 

[dallasdave]

Woah. You gave him the rare triple hammer award

rare it is

 

[dallasdave]

Bro hold the pocket means that the dude pulls out his pants pocket so the submissive dude grabs the pocket and holds it so everybody knows who belongs to who. Lol lol

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Marijuana is a gateway drug for rats according to scientific studies. And the intriguing finding is that steady marijuana exposure causes brain and behavioral problems not only in the animals exposed, but in their future ratlets.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16823391

http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2014/03/17/weed-a-gateway-drug-across-generations/

You miss my point.

You should look into what one needs to do to get permission to study marijuana in the states. You need approval from NIDA and the DEA both of whose existence relies at least in part on it being illegal.

Here is an article from two years before the study you posted describing the research climate.

Yet outdated regulations and attitudes thwart legitimate research with marijuana. Indeed, American biomedical researchers can more easily acquire and investigate cocaine. Marijuana is classified as a so-called Schedule 1 drug, alongside LSD and heroin. As such, it is defined as being potentially addictive and having no medical use, which under the circumstances becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Any researcher attempting to study marijuana must obtain it through the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA). The U.S. research crop, grown at a single facility, is regarded as less potent--and therefore less medicinally interesting--than the marijuana often easily available on the street. Thus, the legal supply is a poor vehicle for studying the approximately 60 cannabinoids that might have medical applications.

This system has unintended, almost comic, consequences. For example, it has created a market for research marijuana, with "buyers" trading journal co-authorships to "sellers" who already have a marijuana stockpile or license. The government may also have a stake in a certain kind of result. One scientist tells of a research grant application to study marijuana's potential medical benefits. NIDA turned it down. That scientist rewrote the grant to emphasize finding marijuana's negative effects. The study was funded.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/marijuana-research/

 

[zrinkill]

 

[LocimusPrime]

Lol I know right. That's a diff level

 

[LocimusPrime]

HOw YOU Doing ????

I'm going great on this beautiful sat! How u doing bro ?

 

[dallasdave]

I'm going great on this beautiful sat! How u doing bro ?

great also, hey, hey, it's a beautiful day

 

[JJHLH1]

You aren't trying to actually think about what i'm saying, so i won't respond anymore. Think about the term "gateway", if you can't think about it, then there's no point. Federally linked documentation to an entity that has ruled marijuana federally illegal in the face of actual evidence, isn't really the best source.

You are implying that the National Institute on Drug Abuse is biased and has an agenda. What evidence do you have of that? What about the rat studies which demonstrate that marijuana is a gateway drug, which can potentially harm not only the direct individual user but also their offspring? Some of the posters on this thread are under the impression that marijuana is completely harmless, like water, which isn't true. It's a powerful drug and should be treated as such.

The National Institute on Drug Abuse findings were published in the New England Journal of Medicine (the most prestigious medical journal in the world):

"The current state of science on the adverse health effects of marijuana use links the drug to several significant adverse effects including addiction. The article, published today in the New England Journal of Medicine, is authored by scientists from the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA), part of the National Institutes of Health.

The review describes the science establishing that marijuana can be addictive and that this risk for addiction increases for daily or young users. It also offers insights into research on the gateway theory indicating that marijuana use, similar to nicotine and alcohol use, may be associated with an increased vulnerability to other drugs."

“It is important to alert the public that using marijuana in the teen years brings health, social, and academic risk.”

—Dr. Nora D. Volkow
Director, National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA)

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/new...s-research-marijuanas-negative-health-effects

 

[JJHLH1]

You miss my point.

You should look into what one needs to do to get permission to study marijuana in the states. You need approval from NIDA and the DEA both of whose existence relies at least in part on it being illegal.

Here is an article from two years before the study you posted describing the research climate.



https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/marijuana-research/

That is very interesting, although as you mentioned it is from 2004. By the way I'm for the use of medical marijuana if it shows clinical benefit. The reason I'm posting these studies is to highlight the fact that marijuana is a powerful drug with potentially serious consequences.