Hardy admonished by Cowboys for comments about Tom Brady's wife

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Miller

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He was found guilty in a bench trial. There's a reason why you can appeal that. Like I asked the last poster with your stance, do you know something everyone else doesn't?

I can SOMEWHAT understand people being against Hardy for bringing up Brady's wife, but the gun's blazin' comment? I question your intellect if you think that was a problem.

I know the evidence was pretty strong and that the woman didn't show up magically. Wonder why?

Guns a blazin didn't bother as much as the women comments which to me were like a slap in the face of those who have been abused. If people can't see how absolutely asinine this was its pretty pathetic.
 

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So its wrong to use the horrible, offensive words "guns blazing" so your solution is to call him (and me) an idiot.

Gotcha.

Right. Though I didn't call you an idiot. More like lacked common sense and clueless. Considering your stance I find this to be a pretty easy call.
 

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I know the evidence was pretty strong and that the woman didn't show up magically. Wonder why?

Guns a blazin didn't bother as much as the women comments which to me were like a slap in the face of those who have been abused. If people can't see how absolutely asinine this was its pretty pathetic.

The evidence wasn't strong; it simply wasn't. Some of you didn't keep track of this trial. Her story was being called into question, she wasn't in the right state of mind that night. And she also claimed it was the worst beating of her life, which was an obvious exaggeration from the "injuries" she supposedly had.

And no one is disputing that it was settled out of court. But that doesn't make Hardy guilty, actually, by law he's not guilty.
 

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How are people even defending this guy? Stop being blind homers and just think. The guy had basically one interview to say something nice or make amends, etc and instead he talks about hot women and talks of guns a blazin. It's pure stupidity. It really makes me wonder how long this guy will last if he can't go one day without being a jack hole. I'm also tired of hearing about how charges were dropped. He was found guilty by a judge, plain and simple. He got off because a witness..probably paid..didn't show. People act like charges just disappeared because there was nothing to it.

I don't think you even saw the interview if that's what you got out of it. I think you just saw the media's spin they put on it and you bought it hook, line and sinker. IMO, he was very gracious with the media that just will not let this man move on with his life. They can't leave the past alone and kept pestering him with questions about it. He did not bite and for that I give him kudos. I'm sorry you are tired of hearing about the charges being dropped but those are the facts whether you choose to accept it or not.

The North Carolina law process is different than most states. First comes a bench trial to determine if the case is worthy to go before a jury trial. So being found "guilty" by a judge in the bench trial is tantamount to a grand jury in most states. The preponderance to find guilt is a lower bar because the appeal by jury trial is automatic. Understanding that, you should not being hanging so much merit on the "guilty" verdict that is basically meaningless until verified in the jury trial. The DA that actually dropped the charges and was having great doubts in prosecuting this case even before the victim went AWOL. Not having her available was just a convenient excuse to give the public for not moving forward with the prosecution in a case that was not going to go well given the lack evidence. Testimony in the bench trial conflicted with statements taken from witnesses by police the night of the incident. The lack of physical evidence did not bode well for the DA to prosecute. Some media tell the story like he beat the crap out of his GF but the most that was ever actually claimed was a misdemeanor punishable only by probation... a far cry from what the media would have you believe and even that was not supported by the facts in the case. Justice prevailed.
 

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Still don't see what is the big deal.

It wasn't a big deal. It doesn't matter. The media and people who don't like Hardy are going to drum up some controversy no matter what.

Today on the radio I was listening to the Rich Eisen show and one of his interns said that hardy should be suspended for the rest of the season for what he said on Tuesday. Then, later he said he should never be able to play again. I swear I'm not making that up.

To Eisen's credit he really didn't even listen to that. He was like, "What? Suspended for that? Uh, no."
 
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When I heard the interview I thought that it probably wasn't a great idea to be talking about Brady's wife and any sister she has.

However, when he said coming out guns blazin', it didn't even make me skip a beat. I never even thought about the weapons part of the whole thing.

Honestly, it is a phrase I've heard my whole life and it didn't even make me blink.

It is ridiculous for the media and some people to make this molehill into a mountain. It is like the media is so incredibly worried about being PC... that they go way, way overboard on everything. I think each reporter sees his career in smoking ruins if he or she does anything other than go on and on about how terrible it is.

It is just crazy. Like bizzaro world crazy. As in an alternate universe where you have to worry about every single thing you say.
 

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The evidence wasn't strong; it simply wasn't. Some of you didn't keep track of this trial. Her story was being called into question, she wasn't in the right state of mind that night. And she also claimed it was the worst beating of her life, which was an obvious exaggeration from the "injuries" she supposedly had.

And no one is disputing that it was settled out of court. But that doesn't make Hardy guilty, actually, by law he's not guilty.

It was strong enough for a judge to believe the accuser and the prosecution witness over her story of being coked out and throwing herself into a tub.

Also they couldn't find her on appeal because she ran off after taking money. Couldn't find her.

The guy has issues. She had issues. But off because no witness doesn't mean exonerated. As an attorney that did a little DA work I've seen much less.
 

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I don't think you even saw the interview if that's what you got out of it. I think you just saw the media's spin they put on it and you bought it hook, line and sinker. IMO, he was very gracious with the media that just will not let this man move on with his life. They can't leave the past alone and kept pestering him with questions about it. He did not bite and for that I give him kudos. I'm sorry you are tired of hearing about the charges being dropped but those are the facts whether you choose to accept it or not.

The North Carolina law process is different than most states. First comes a bench trial to determine if the case is worthy to go before a jury trial. So being found "guilty" by a judge in the bench trial is tantamount to a grand jury in most states. The preponderance to find guilt is a lower bar because the appeal by jury trial is automatic. Understanding that, you should not being hanging so much merit on the "guilty" verdict that is basically meaningless until verified in the jury trial. The DA that actually dropped the charges and was having great doubts in prosecuting this case even before the victim went AWOL. Not having her available was just a convenient excuse to give the public for not moving forward with the prosecution in a case that was not going to go well given the lack evidence. Testimony in the bench trial conflicted with statements taken from witnesses by police the night of the incident. The lack of physical evidence did not bode well for the DA to prosecute. Some media tell the story like he beat the crap out of his GF but the most that was ever actually claimed was a misdemeanor punishable only by probation... a far cry from what the media would have you believe and even that was not supported by the facts in the case. Justice prevailed.

First I watched in whole interview. Secondly I know the law and read his case extensively. All we are talking here is common sense. Everyone defending him does know that JG had to sit him down after this and talk? And Jerry was stunned when he heard. The guy couldn't take 10 minutes and think, " hey bad idea to make jokes regarding women since sensitive. I think any adult can see that. It floors me that some here can't.
 

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It was strong enough for a judge to believe the accuser and the prosecution witness over her story of being coked out and throwing herself into a tub.

Also they couldn't find her on appeal because she ran off after taking money. Couldn't find her.

The guy has issues. She had issues. But off because no witness doesn't mean exonerated. As an attorney that did a little DA work I've seen much less.

I'm not bringing up that she "ran off" - I am telling you, she couldn't get her story straight. She out of her mind that night. Hardy is the one who called the police, he is the one who had to bring someone to have HER removed from his home. This was a minor incident blown up by the media due to the controversy surrounding the league.

Are you going to add anything new to this case or not?
 

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First I watched in whole interview. Secondly I know the law and read his case extensively. All we are talking here is common sense. Everyone defending him does know that JG had to sit him down after this and talk? And Jerry was stunned when he heard. The guy couldn't take 10 minutes and think, " hey bad idea to make jokes regarding women since sensitive. I think any adult can see that. It floors me that some here can't.

Jerry also went on to say something similar about Brady's wife along with mocking the media for being outraged over the guns blazin' comment.
 

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Today on the radio I was listening to the Rich Eisen show and one of his interns said that hardy should be suspended for the rest of the season for what he said on Tuesday. Then, later he said he should never be able to play again. I swear I'm not making that up.

But he haz Bad Feeeeelz!!!

Its amazing how hard some people will work at being offended. The outrageously outraged crowd never ceases to amaze me.
 
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